How come Im the only one left in my neighborhood

leftyman

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After 9/11 everyone had one..on the front of the house, on a flag pole, in gardens, on the mailbox, on their car antenna..everywhere you looked you saw a flag.
Everyone was patriotic and loved America.

Especially when the Iraq war started everyone felt the need to show how patriotic they were and everyone bought new and bigger flags to fly.

I was, and still am against the war, but I still displayed my flag.

Then I really noticed the last couple of years that there arent nearly as many flags flying as there used to be.

Now with the nice weather and the Memorial Day weekend here I still dont see any flags.

I hope that changes this weekend.

 

Sc4freak

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Personally, I've never understood American patriotism. I guess I'd have to experience it firsthand; down here in Australia we don't really have an overall sense of patriotism/nationalism (except when it comes to sports). It's pretty rare to see an Australia flag on someone's lawn.
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: leftyman
After 9/11 everyone had one..on the front of the house, on a flag pole, in gardens, on the mailbox, on their car antenna..everywhere you looked you saw a flag.
Everyone was patriotic and loved America.

Especially when the Iraq war started everyone felt the need to show how patriotic they were and everyone bought new and bigger flags to fly.

I was, and still am against the war, but I still displayed my flag.

Then I really noticed the last couple of years that there arent nearly as many flags flying as there used to be.

Now with the nice weather and the Memorial Day weekend here I still dont see any flags.

I hope that changes this weekend.

Ours aged so we took it down. Then I had to replace the framing around the window last fall so even the mounting bracket is down. Maybe I will make getting a new one back up my weekend project this weekend.
 

eits

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probably because after 9/11 and iraq, all the neo-cons inadvertently changed the popular view of an american waving the flag from being american to being ignorant white trash claiming to be patriotic... people probably don't want to be viewed as ignorant white trash, so they stash the flag.
 

jlbenedict

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Originally posted by: leftyman
After 9/11 everyone had one..on the front of the house, on a flag pole, in gardens, on the mailbox, on their car antenna..everywhere you looked you saw a flag.
Everyone was patriotic and loved America.

Especially when the Iraq war started everyone felt the need to show how patriotic they were and everyone bought new and bigger flags to fly.

I was, and still am against the war, but I still displayed my flag.

Then I really noticed the last couple of years that there arent nearly as many flags flying as there used to be.

Now with the nice weather and the Memorial Day weekend here I still dont see any flags.

I hope that changes this weekend.


Because at the time of 9/11 it was the cool thing to do at the time. Everyone was doing it.. including the Jones's, so everyone had to do it, to fit in.

I'm sure there was alot of pressure on some people also. You didn't want to be labeled as "un-patriotic".
What did Bush say, "you're either with us.. or against us"..
So, you flew the flag.. or you were a terrorist

 

Geocentricity

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Originally posted by: eits
probably because after 9/11 and iraq, all the neo-cons inadvertently changed the popular view of an american waving the flag from being american to being ignorant white trash claiming to be patriotic... people probably don't want to be viewed as ignorant white trash, so they stash the flag.

Good answer.

....they took our jobs!
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: eits
probably because after 9/11 and iraq, all the neo-cons inadvertently changed the popular view of an american waving the flag from being american to being ignorant white trash claiming to be patriotic... people probably don't want to be viewed as ignorant white trash, so they stash the flag.

People that view others who display the US flag as "ignorant white trash" need to take a look in the mirror.
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: eits
probably because after 9/11 and iraq, all the neo-cons inadvertently changed the popular view of an american waving the flag from being american to being ignorant white trash claiming to be patriotic... people probably don't want to be viewed as ignorant white trash, so they stash the flag.

People that view others who display the US flag as "ignorant white trash" need to take a look in the mirror.

He's right. The Neo-cons did turn patriotism into agreeing with them, but not inadvertently. You're either with them or against them, remember? America bought into it- if you disagreed with the president, you were unpatriotic and unamerican, like the Dixie Chicks.
 

Bateluer

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Its kinda sad that more people don't fly the flag. Though, a great many of people that I do see flying the flag are doing so improperly. I've seen flags on poles during rain when its not an all weather flag, I've seen flags on poles at night with no illumination, etc. I reside in an apartment, so I can't simply put a flag pole up, however, I have a small framed flag that I stick in my window during the day only.

 

jlbenedict

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Originally posted by: Bateluer
Its kinda sad that more people don't fly the flag. Though, a great many of people that I do see flying the flag are doing so improperly. I've seen flags on poles during rain when its not an all weather flag, I've seen flags on poles at night with no illumination, etc. I reside in an apartment, so I can't simply put a flag pole up, however, I have a small framed flag that I stick in my window during the day only.

Who is to say that is improper? The Flag Code is a guideline of recommendations; it is not a code of law that is black & white.. such as .. if you murder someone, you go to jail.

http://www.flagguys.com/etiq.html#sept

"Flags At Night: Spotlight?

Question: I enjoyed your site and will try and use you for any flag related purchases in the future. I am wondering though if I am doing the wrong thing. I leave my flag up at my house all the time and I don't have a light shining on it after dark. In a residential setting do I need to either take it down at dusk, or keep a light shining on it?

Answer: The Flag Code says

(a) It is the universal custom to display the flag only from sunrise to sunset on buildings and on stationary flagstaffs in the open However, when a patriotic effect is desired, the flag may be displayed 24 hours a day if properly illuminated during the hours of darkness.


The code makes no distinction between residential and non residential settings. The code is silent on the meaning of "properly illuminated." Here is what The American Legion says on its web site regarding that point:

"The American Legion interprets " proper illumination" as a light specifically placed to illuminate the flag (preferred) or having a light source sufficient to illuminate the flag so it is recognizable as such by the casual observer."

Flags At Night: Stick Flags

Question: Thank you for your great informational website! > I have a question about taking down the flag at sunset: I have an American flags (about 3' x 5') flying from a pole near our front door. On Memorial day I placed small flags (12" x 18") on each of my cul-de-sac neighbors laws. I made a great neighborhood patriotic display which they seemed to appreciate. One neighbor brings her lawn flag inside everyday before sunset. Is it disrespectful to our flags to leave them out at night? Thank you very much for your service! CW Cmdr, U.S. Navy, Retired

Answer: Sir. Thank you for your great question. Here is what "The Flag Code" says:
"It is the universal custom to display the flag only from sunrise to sunset on buildings and on stationary flagstaffs in the open. However, when a patriotic effect is desired, the flag may be displayed 24 hours a day if properly illuminated during the hours of darkness."

The Code does not say what "properly illuminated" means. The American Legion says illuminated is to be defined as "having a light source sufficient to illuminate the flag so it is recognizable as such by the casual observer." It must also be observed that nation wide millions of flags are placed on graves and monuments where there is no illumination. Arlington puts out a couple hundred thousand on memorial day. They do not take them in at night."


I guarantee you, Arlington cemetary officials do not light up every single flag displayed throughout the cemetery.

Flag Myths
Flag Myths

If the flag touches the ground it must be burned: False.

Only The American Legion or The Boy Scouts are allowed to retire US flags by burning them: False. Those fine organizations are not the only ones allowed to do so and do not claim to be. They both have fine ceremonies to retire worn flags. Other groups such as The Girl Scouts do too. As well, any private person may do so on his own. The Flag Code only calls for a worn out flag to be "destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning." It does not restrict flag retirement by burning to any one group. In fact, it does not restrict the destruction to burning.

The gold ball on top of a flagpole contains a razor blade, a match and a bullet: False. I've seen inside lots of gold balls and have never seen anything in there other than New York air. This myth gets told in different variations and is invariably accompanied by an explanation something like this: As the invading hoards are bearing down on his hopeless position, the last man standing can at least have time to get the razor blade, shred the flag, burn the pieces and then do himself in with the bullet. The story never includes the explanation as how he is supposed to get up to the top of the flagpole. Click here for a more detailed essay on this myth. One advisory. The author of that essay does mix up the terms "ball", "truck" and "pulley." The truck is the housing at the flagpole top into which the ball screws. The truck also houses the pulley wheel.

It is improper to fly the American flag in the rain: False. The Flag Code Title 4, Chapter 1, Section 6 specifically allows this practice if "an all weather flag is displayed." The code is silent on what an all weather flag is, but the intent sure sounds like it means a flag that is able to stand up to the conditions. Even very light weight flags can do so. They just will not do so as long as the better models.



 

brandonbull

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: eits
probably because after 9/11 and iraq, all the neo-cons inadvertently changed the popular view of an american waving the flag from being american to being ignorant white trash claiming to be patriotic... people probably don't want to be viewed as ignorant white trash, so they stash the flag.

People that view others who display the US flag as "ignorant white trash" need to take a look in the mirror.

He's right. The Neo-cons did turn patriotism into agreeing with them, but not inadvertently. You're either with them or against them, remember? America bought into it- if you disagreed with the president, you were unpatriotic and unamerican, like the Dixie Chicks.

The Dixie Chicks are paid to sing and not to spout their uninformed nonsense.

 

jlbenedict

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Originally posted by: brandonbull
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: eits
probably because after 9/11 and iraq, all the neo-cons inadvertently changed the popular view of an american waving the flag from being american to being ignorant white trash claiming to be patriotic... people probably don't want to be viewed as ignorant white trash, so they stash the flag.

People that view others who display the US flag as "ignorant white trash" need to take a look in the mirror.

He's right. The Neo-cons did turn patriotism into agreeing with them, but not inadvertently. You're either with them or against them, remember? America bought into it- if you disagreed with the president, you were unpatriotic and unamerican, like the Dixie Chicks.

The Dixie Chicks are paid to sing and not to spout their uninformed nonsense.


I believe the Dixie Chicks were really taking shots at G.W Bush (and the war), really had no intentions of portraying they are unpatriotic and/or un-American.

 

bl4ckfl4g

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I am a very patriotic vet but why would I need to fly a flag at my house to let everyone else know? I don't care if other people think I'm patriotic or not..
 

txrandom

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I have a Texas flag that I hang up in my room, but I just moved and need to buy some nails/hammer. The flag represents my patriotism for Texas not the South. I've never wear anything with a Confederate flag.

Once I move into a bigger room or get a house, I'm putting up the 50 stars.
 
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