How come no seem to be overclocking the Pentium4 D 920 930 940

[NucleusWDS]

How come no seem to be overclocking the Pentium4 D 920 930 940?

Just wondering ... cos I've always been a fan of Intel ... it would be nice to see someone overclock them sucessfully ...

If so then I will wanna try too ...

 

[DrMrLordX]

This was asked a few days ago. Concensus was that the selection of OC boards for Presler(especially the 920D, which should be the prime OCing choice) is rather poor, and the one known good one costs around $200. Bad bang/buck ratio.

Furthermore, it still runs hotter than an OCed Opteron 165/170 which is a pain in the arse.

 

[NucleusWDS]

you mean the there are no good motherboards for OCing the 920 930 940 ... and the price is too expensive?

Surely they will come down in price ... and I'm sure some manufacturers will come up with a good motherboard.

 

[F1shF4t]

Actually overall it turns out to be cheaper to go for an amd dual core system than an intel one if ur planing on large overclocks, well in australia at least.

For amd u can pick up a 3800+ for 450 bucks, and a dfi ultra d for 200 bucks.
For intel a 920 cost 380, and u will need a good board to overclock which can cost u anywhere from 270 to 370 (370 for the new intel 975 chipset board)

Amd 650 bucks
Intel 650 +

And amd will offer better performance anyways with lower heat output. My point being is that there is not much purpose with going intel at the moment, and prolly the reason most people here still choose to got the X2/ opteron ruite over the p-d presler.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Originally posted by: Dark Cupcake
Actually overall it turns out to be cheaper to go for an amd dual core system than an intel one if ur planing on large overclocks, well in australia at least.

For amd u can pick up a 3800+ for 450 bucks, and a dfi ultra d for 200 bucks.
For intel a 920 cost 380, and u will need a good board to overclock which can cost u anywhere from 270 to 370 (370 for the new intel 975 chipset board)

Amd 650 bucks
Intel 650 +

And amd will offer better performance anyways with lower heat output. My point being is that there is not much purpose with going intel at the moment, and prolly the reason most people here still choose to got the X2/ opteron ruite over the p-d presler.

X@ 3800+ costs just $297 on newegg FYI.

So it should be:

AMD combo: X2 3800+ ($297) and DFI LP Ultra-D ($127) = $424
Intel combo: 920D ($258) and Asus P5WD2-E ($225) = $483

All newegg prices.

At stock speeds, the cheaper 3800+ combo rapes the 920D. At overclocked speeds, the 3800+ will probably still rapes the 920D and with less heat produced.

 

[TankGuys]

I think the primary reason is still the dominance of AMD... it makes enthusaists a little less willing to give the Intel offerings a shot. That being said, I have seem some great overclocks on 920's and such, so they can be fun. And yes, lack of good supplementary hardware does not help the situation.

 

[F1shF4t]

Originally posted by: StrangerGuy

Originally posted by: Dark Cupcake
Actually overall it turns out to be cheaper to go for an amd dual core system than an intel one if ur planing on large overclocks, well in australia at least.

For amd u can pick up a 3800+ for 450 bucks, and a dfi ultra d for 200 bucks.
For intel a 920 cost 380, and u will need a good board to overclock which can cost u anywhere from 270 to 370 (370 for the new intel 975 chipset board)

Amd 650 bucks
Intel 650 +

And amd will offer better performance anyways with lower heat output. My point being is that there is not much purpose with going intel at the moment, and prolly the reason most people here still choose to got the X2/ opteron ruite over the p-d presler.

X@ 3800+ costs just $297 on newegg FYI.

So it should be:

AMD combo: X2 3800+ ($297) and DFI LP Ultra-D ($127) = $424
Intel combo: 920D ($258) and Asus P5WD2-E ($225) = $483

All newegg prices.

At stock speeds, the cheaper 3800+ combo rapes the 920D. At overclocked speeds, the 3800+ will probably still rapes the 920D and with less heat produced.

Yea i was using prices in australia, but it seems like its the same in other parts of the world with the X2 being cheaper overall.

 

[Faikius]

Quite a few people are overclocking them (D920's) with excellent results. It's just not talked about much on this forum.

As has already been said, to get good results with the Preslers it looks like you need an ASUS P5WD2 board (~$200) at this point. Using this board people are getting 4GHz+ out of the D920's without breaking a sweat.

 

[Markfw]

AMD combo: X2 3800+ ($297) and DFI LP Ultra-D ($127) = $424
Intel combo: 920D ($258) and Asus P5WD2-E ($225) = $483

All newegg prices.

At stock speeds, the cheaper 3800+ combo rapes the 920D. At overclocked speeds, the 3800+ will probably still rapes the 920D and with less heat produced.

So with that being the case, why would anybody want to spend $60 more for less performance ? I don't understand why people are even buying the ASUS board and doing this. Intel Fanbois ?

 

[themusgrat]

Originally posted by: TankGuys
I think the primary reason is still the dominance of AMD... it makes enthusaists a little less willing to give the Intel offerings a shot. That being said, I have seem some great overclocks on 920's and such, so they can be fun. And yes, lack of good supplementary hardware does not help the situation.

True. AMDs are almost guaranteed these days to beat Intels, though there was one guy on this forum that acheived 5ghz. That is impressive, maybe at that high of clock it overcomes its inefficiency and lack of a fast memory controller. If I had to build now, I'd do AMD. But a year from now, who knows, Intel may come back. They sure are trying.

 

[evenmore1]

It's not Pentium 4D, it's just Pentium D with the 8xx series. Now officially they are called Intel D 9xx. Pentium is gone now...how sad

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: NucleusWDS
How come no seem to be overclocking the Pentium4 D 920 930 940?

Just wondering ... cos I've always been a fan of Intel ... it would be nice to see someone overclock them sucessfully ...

If so then I will wanna try too ...

because these forums are full of AMD fanbois

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Faikius
As has already been said, to get good results with the Preslers it looks like you need an ASUS P5WD2 board (~$200) at this point. Using this board people are getting 4GHz+ out of the D920's without breaking a sweat.

Sweat? I'm sure you can mimic a sauna if you have a rack of them in a small closet.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict


because these forums are full of AMD fanbois

So lemme get this straight . . . an entire forum of people figures out that you can get better bang for your buck overclocking an X2 that predates Presler by at least 6 months on a wide variety of relatively inexpensive, feature-rich motherboards, and that makes them all AMD "fanbois"?

Presler had some promise. It is a better overclocker than Smithfield, that's for sure. We've had threads about it, we've debated it, and we've come to the conclusion that using an X2 that works with the DDR memory we've already got and the s939 boards we already had for our Winchesters, Venices, and San Diegos makes more sense that running out to stock up on DDR2 memory and $200 motherboards just to overclock a 920D that, in the end, is beaten by the aforementioned X2 before and after overclocking.

The only reason to OC Presler right now is if you're looking to experiment or if you're loyal to Intel and tired of waiting for Conroe. There may be a few niche apps out there that will do better on dual-core Netburst solutions as well. Overall, an X2 or Opteron is just going to be better for the money.

 

[aigomorla]

actually im curious to see exactly how well a prestler will do. Ive read once on this forum of a guy that oc'd to 4.4ghz? well somewhere in the mid 4 and it was suposed to be faster then my x2 at 2.8ghz.

That kinda shocked me, im waiting for the dorment sleeping intel users to wake up and start giving us AMD users a run for our money.

BTW his temps werent too bad either from what i remember.

 

[LiquidImpulse]

because these forums have no room for intel fanboys
j/k

 

[nycdude]

Originally posted by: LiquidImpulse
because these forums have no room for intel fanboys
j/k

haha

 

[sandorski]

Most DIY are still using Athlon64/X2. I have a friend who just got a Dell XPS with a 930. He mainly bought it for the 20.1 Widescreen LCD monitor(very sweet monitor) that came with it for "free". He was sorta thinking about overclocking it, but to my and his shock there are no accessible Temp Sensors on Dell mobos!! Nixed that idea. Fairly nice system though. Wouldn't trade my X2 3800 for it, but like he said when justifying the $3k(cdn) price tag for it, "Many years ago you wwent AMD, I went Intel"