How dark can dark get ?

[edro]

Black holes are as dark as you can get.
Nothing can escape (photons, neutrinos, nothing).

 

[her209]

0x000000 is as dark as you can ever get. You can pretty much just translate that to 0.

You could have infrared.

 

[KaOTiK]

But how can you be sure....that there isn't another "blacker black" that is darker then this one, but we just haven't discovered it yet ?

We have discovered it, it is Wesley Snipes

 

[MentalIlness]

He's just talking for the sake of it now.

/leave thread.

If this is what you believe, then leave the thread. The thread is about certain theories.

 

[MentalIlness]

We have discovered it, it is Wesley Snipes

Ahahahaha...

Well done sir. LOL

 

[edro]

Since you can't have negative darkness, then 0 is the lowest you can go.

Though this begs an interesting question, if a place reaches absolute zero in temperature, is it automaticly as dark as you can get? At that point nothing is moving, I don't think even light can move.

Right. Light cannot move through absolute 0, AFAIK.

 

[MentalIlness]

Black holes are as dark as you can get.
Nothing can escape (photons, neutrinos, nothing).

Has it been proven how black a black hole actually is ? And is it possible for a black hole to be darker than anything we know ?

Your post is the types of post im looking for. :thumbsup:

 

[her209]

Black holes are as dark as you can get.
Nothing can escape (photons, neutrinos, nothing).

What about gravitrons?

 

[MentalIlness]

Right. Light cannot move through absolute 0, AFAIK.

Do you think it is possible for a human to produce absolute 0 ? You stated, you dont think light can even move.

 

[edro]

Do you think it is possible for a human to produce absolute 0 ? You stated, you dont think light can even move.

No, we cannot create absolute 0. It is impossible.
Light slows down in lower temperatures. They can get really close to 0 and light slows down to a few meters/second.

What about gravitrons?

No, of course not. They are pulled in as well.

Just read a few Stephen Hawking, Michio Kaku, Brian Greene books and you will learn about these things in layterms.

 

[MentalIlness]

No, we cannot create absolute 0. It is impossible.
Light slows down in lower temperatures. They can get really close to 0 and light slows down to a few meters/second.

No, of course not. They are pulled in as well.

Just read a few Stephen Hawking, Michio Kaku, Brian Greene books and you will learn about these things in layterms.

So then you are saying that dark can in fact get darker "to some degree" that we as a human, have never seen ?

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Your question makes no sense. We have defined darkness as the absence of light. You're twisting it to assume that once you have the absence of light you can start spontaneously creating matter from nothing. Darkness is not an inherent thing; it is simply the word we've chosen to describe the absence of light. So, no, you can't make it get so dark that things start popping out of thin air. You might as well ask if it can get so blue that squirrels fly on bananas.

 

[edro]

So then you are saying that dark can in fact get darker "to some degree" that we as a human, have never seen ?

Correct. We cannot see a black hole, which is the darkest phenomenon out there.
To see, you must receive information from the source (reflected visible light in the case of our eyes, or electromagnetic radiation in other frequencies using other receivers). Because nothing escapes a black hole, we cannot "see" it.

All we see are things entering it and never coming back.

 

[MentalIlness]

Correct. We cannot see a black hole, which is the darkest phenomenon out there.
To see, you must receive information from the source (reflected visible light in the case of our eyes, or electromagnetic radiation in other frequencies using other receivers). Because nothing escapes a black hole, we cannot "see" it.

All we see are things entering it and never coming back.

Thanks for your informative post.

But how do we in fact know though, that there is not something out there somewhere that can in fact be darker than a black hole ? And is a black hole "absolute 0" ?

 

[her209]

No, of course not. They are pulled in as well.

Just read a few Stephen Hawking, Michio Kaku, Brian Greene books and you will learn about these things in layterms.

So objects outside the event horizon experience no gravitational pull from the black hole? I don't think that's right.

 

[JulesMaximus]

this isn't your average, everyday darkness..

this is.. ADVANCED darkness

:thumbsup: Spongebob Squarepants

 

[insect9]

I cast Magic Missile at the darkness!

 

[RedRooster]

I think mankind has to admit sometimes that they know virtually NOTHING about the universe. We're like those bush people who have never seen civilization compared to other brains in this universe. Or worse.
Questions like this sound stupid, but are probably normal things outside our puny brains.

 

[uclaLabrat]

Oh thank you for this thread. I'm crying right now. I really needed this.

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Thanks for your informative post.

But how do we in fact know though, that there is not something out there somewhere that can in fact be darker than a black hole ? And is a black hole "absolute 0" ?

Huh, why dont you get that dark is just something humans came up with to explain the absence of light? If there is no light, its pitch black... Whether we can see that far or not is irrelevant

Its like youre trying to come up with some "negative light" or something, thats just nonsense
Unless you pull some quantum shit which always seems to explain everything in nonsensical ways

 

[JTsyo]

LOL, No...just a married father of three, had his kids are teenagers. So yes, I am an idiot.

So are you saying, you don't theorize about anything ? Isnt it why people theorize ? Because they want to know about something they dont understand ?

What does that even mean? You married some guy that had 3 teenage kids?

 

[MentalIlness]

Huh, why dont you get that dark is just something humans came up with to explain the absence of light? If there is no light, its pitch black... Whether we can see that far or not is irrelevant

Its like youre trying to come up with some "negative light" or something, thats just nonsense
Unless you pull some quantum shit which always seems to explain everything in nonsensical ways

Exactly right. What if there is a way to create negative light, but the human brain don't have the understanding "yet" on how to produce it ?

So in turn, wouldnt it be unfair to actually say "dark can get no darker" ?

 

[mesthead21]

Thread of the day, thanks for making me laugh at work OP. I applaud your stupid questions because they made my day better

 

[MentalIlness]

What does that even mean? You married some guy that had 3 teenage kids?

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[Tristicus]