how did black people get "white" last names?

[BlahBlahYouToo]

this is a serious question.

names like MacGrady, McNabb (just to name a few of the more popular black sports iconic names), or anything Mac*, Mc* are of Irish descent.
how did black people 'adopt' these surnames?

is it because in the days of slavery, slave owners raped their women and their kids took on the last name?

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
this is a serious question.

names like MacGrady, McNabb (just to name a few of the more popular black sports iconic names), or anything Mac*, Mc* are of Irish descent.
how did black people 'adopt' these surnames?

is it because in the days of slavery, slave owners raped their women and their kids took on the last name?

Aside from "X", the way most black folks got their last names was from their original white owners.

Along those lines, apparently a fellow named Jackson owned a crapload of slaves.
And we all know about Jefferson and Washington.

 

[Adam8281]

Nice sensationalist hypothesis, with the rape and all, but the truth is a bit more mundane: (from Wikipedia)

During enslavement, slaves' names were assigned by their owners. Others received a name based on what kind of work they were forced to do. Some African-Americans have last names such as Cotton, reflecting when they were made to pick cotton as slaves.

After emancipation, many freedmen and -women took the surnames of their former owners as their own. Some blacks in the U.S. took on the surname Freeman, while others adopted the names of popular historical or contemporary figures of social importance, such as former presidents Washington, Jefferson, and Jackson.

 

[CasioTech]

because they were 'john's son' and 'will's son'

slave sons of course...

 

[TehMac]

Malcom X's original name was Malcolm Little.

Keep in mind Malcolm is a very Scottish name. Alot of Scots-Irish slave owners in the South.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: Adam8281
Nice sensationalist hypothesis, with the rape and all, but the truth is a bit more mundane: (from Wikipedia)

i thought i heard somewhere that raping slaves was quite prevalent back in the day.

 

[biggestmuff]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
this is a serious question.

names like MacGrady, McNabb (just to name a few of the more popular black sports iconic names), or anything Mac*, Mc* are of Irish descent.
how did black people 'adopt' these surnames?

is it because in the days of slavery, slave owners raped their women and their kids took on the last name?

Yeah, that's it. As a sign of respect. :roll:

 

[Taejin]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
this is a serious question.

names like MacGrady, McNabb (just to name a few of the more popular black sports iconic names), or anything Mac*, Mc* are of Irish descent.
how did black people 'adopt' these surnames?

is it because in the days of slavery, slave owners raped their women and their kids took on the last name?

its because black people were completely stripped of their cultural wealth and therefore scavenged things like names from white people.

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: Taejin

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
this is a serious question.

names like MacGrady, McNabb (just to name a few of the more popular black sports iconic names), or anything Mac*, Mc* are of Irish descent.
how did black people 'adopt' these surnames?

is it because in the days of slavery, slave owners raped their women and their kids took on the last name?

its because black people were completely stripped of their cultural wealth and therefore scavenged things like names from white people.

You're a simple minded bigot. Great job distorting history, what else are you going to conceptually butcher today?

 

[Taejin]

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: Taejin

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
this is a serious question.

names like MacGrady, McNabb (just to name a few of the more popular black sports iconic names), or anything Mac*, Mc* are of Irish descent.
how did black people 'adopt' these surnames?

is it because in the days of slavery, slave owners raped their women and their kids took on the last name?

its because black people were completely stripped of their cultural wealth and therefore scavenged things like names from white people.

You're a simple minded bigot. Great job distorting history, what else are you going to conceptually butcher today?

I didn't feel like typing up a treatise but..yeah, that's what basically happened. You think white slave owners let africans keep any of their cultural identity? Hell no.. that's how you get people banding together and uprisings. If you want slaves you break their spirit and destroy their culture. And that's exactly what white slave owners did.

Go find another podium.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Taejin

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
this is a serious question.

names like MacGrady, McNabb (just to name a few of the more popular black sports iconic names), or anything Mac*, Mc* are of Irish descent.
how did black people 'adopt' these surnames?

is it because in the days of slavery, slave owners raped their women and their kids took on the last name?

its because black people were completely stripped of their cultural wealth and therefore scavenged things like names from white people.

you know what the funny thing is - the root of slavery is africa itself.

coastal towns of africa would raid the inside of the continent and capture men, women, and children to sell to the europeans that stopped by during the colonial period. previously, female slaves were particularly wanted by the sultans of both arab empires IIRC (can't remember the 1st one, the second is the Abbasid (sp?) empire). slavery in africa goes much farther back than 1600ish.

 

[dennilfloss]

Dunno but check Akon's real name.

http://answers.yahoo.com/quest...=20071017200401AARjSU5

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
you know what the funny thing is - the root of slavery is africa itself.

coastal towns of africa would raid the inside of the continent and capture men, women, and children to sell to the europeans that stopped by during the colonial period. previously, female slaves were particularly wanted by the sultans of both arab empires IIRC (can't remember the 1st one, the second is the Abbasid (sp?) empire). slavery in africa goes much farther back than 1600ish.

What a long, proud history of mutual respect humanity has had for itself throughout the ages.

"You were born on THAT side of an imaginary line in the dirt, therefore I'm better than you."

 

[ObiDon]

Originally posted by: Adam8281
After emancipation, many freedmen and -women took the surnames of their former owners as their own.

that seems like an odd choice

 

[shortylickens]

One day I would like to see a thread on Anandtech NOT go where I think it will go.

Soon as I saw the question, I knew we were headed for a race war.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
One day I would like to see a thread on Anandtech NOT go where I think it will go.

Soon as I saw the question, I knew we were headed for a race war.

"RACE WAR!"

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: ObiDon

Originally posted by: Adam8281
After emancipation, many freedmen and -women took the surnames of their former owners as their own.

that seems like an odd choice

People think the plantations were like concentration camps, while there obviously were moral & ethical issues with all the issues around & about slavery, and of course the abuse of slaves, many slave owners weren't horrible people, and their slaves were akin to extended family.

 

[Juno]

my name is greek but i'm korean.

 

[sobriquet]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Taejin

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
this is a serious question.

names like MacGrady, McNabb (just to name a few of the more popular black sports iconic names), or anything Mac*, Mc* are of Irish descent.
how did black people 'adopt' these surnames?

is it because in the days of slavery, slave owners raped their women and their kids took on the last name?

its because black people were completely stripped of their cultural wealth and therefore scavenged things like names from white people.

you know what the funny thing is - the root of slavery is africa itself.

coastal towns of africa would raid the inside of the continent and capture men, women, and children to sell to the europeans that stopped by during the colonial period. previously, female slaves were particularly wanted by the sultans of both arab empires IIRC (can't remember the 1st one, the second is the Abbasid (sp?) empire). slavery in africa goes much farther back than 1600ish.

Yes, there is no denying that. But there was something "special" about the American version of slavery in the extent to which the slaves were separated from their own culture. It's perhaps most apparent in the musical practices of slaves. Compare spirituals to, say, Afro-Peruvian music - which one sounds more African? To put it simply, slaves outside of the United States were allowed to practice their own culture to a much greater extent than most slaves inside.

 

[ICRS]

Where did first names like "Latisha", "Rodaysha", "Shanaynay", "Montasha", "Quinisha" , ect... You know very common names for those of black decent.

 

[Gothgar]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: shortylickens
One day I would like to see a thread on Anandtech NOT go where I think it will go.

Soon as I saw the question, I knew we were headed for a race war.

"RACE WAR!"

rofl


that show... oh man

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
People think the plantations were like concentration camps, while there obviously were moral & ethical issues with all the issues around & about slavery, and of course the abuse of slaves, many slave owners weren't horrible people, and their slaves were akin to extended family.

For those people who make their "extended family" their property who cannot voluntarily leave their land, who beat them and whip them as adults if they don't behave, who allow them only hand me down rags to wear, who forcibly forbid the speaking of their native languages, who occassionally lynch or beat to death a few, who forcibly fuck some of the females on occasssion, and treat the issue of these unions as sub-human property, who may or may not allow their property to marry, but then can and do sell the wives and/or the children to other owners.

Yeah, those darkies sure had it good! :roll:

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: ObiDon

Originally posted by: Adam8281
After emancipation, many freedmen and -women took the surnames of their former owners as their own.

that seems like an odd choice

People think the plantations were like concentration camps, while there obviously were moral & ethical issues with all the issues around & about slavery, and of course the abuse of slaves, many slave owners weren't horrible people, and their slaves were akin to extended family.

lol

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Taejin

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
this is a serious question.

names like MacGrady, McNabb (just to name a few of the more popular black sports iconic names), or anything Mac*, Mc* are of Irish descent.
how did black people 'adopt' these surnames?

is it because in the days of slavery, slave owners raped their women and their kids took on the last name?

its because black people were completely stripped of their cultural wealth and therefore scavenged things like names from white people.

you know what the funny thing is - the root of slavery is africa itself.

coastal towns of africa would raid the inside of the continent and capture men, women, and children to sell to the europeans that stopped by during the colonial period. previously, female slaves were particularly wanted by the sultans of both arab empires IIRC (can't remember the 1st one, the second is the Abbasid (sp?) empire). slavery in africa goes much farther back than 1600ish.

kinda makes sense since the root of humans is africa also. besides if they did it, it makes it ok for white people to do it to them.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

People think the plantations were like concentration camps, while there obviously were moral & ethical issues with all the issues around & about slavery, and of course the abuse of slaves, many slave owners weren't horrible people, and their slaves were akin to extended family.

Slavery was more often much worse than it is depicted in popular culture. Especially in the deep south. Abuse was the only method of keeping slaves in line.

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo


is it because in the days of slavery, slave owners raped their women and their kids took on the last name?

No, but this is why most blacks in America have much lighter skin than your average African.