How did Carson Palmer wins the Heisman?

[Bad Dude]

He would be the last of all the candidates that I would think can win the trophy. He could not graduate from his class and had to stay an extra year to as a fifth year senior. He has done nothing much except for the last few games. USC lost two games, he won and made plays because of his team and not because of his leadership.
Dorsey should have won the trophy. Two times champions. You can say they played a soft schedule but they don't make up the schedule. All but one team, the Hurricanes had proven themselves superior to the rest this year and last year. Every time they need a play, he came through for them. Palmer only won the games that he should have win but yet he lost two games. Dorsey is 38-1 and a good 4 years career. Palmer only had a few months career and the rest before was unknown. I guess they feel bad that Palmer had to stay an extra year to play a little better. Palmer should not have gotten the trophy. If any one else would have win the trophy I would support him, but Palmer? He should not have win it. What a disappointment? Bad votings.
Look at what they did, they voted for the Sooners, notre Dame, and OSU to go before Miami and in the end only Miami proven themselves a great team. Ohio State is going to suffer the same fate as Nebraska last year. Destroy!!!

 

[MazerRackham]

The Heisman is NOT a career achievement award. Dorsey has his statistically best season two years ago. Palmer made a mediocre team very very good. There's no doubt that Dorsey is a great QB, but wouldn't you expect Miami to win with the level of recruits they get each year?

I wanted Palmer to win it the whole way. And I got what I wanted

 

[Codewiz]

Palmer did not deserve it over Banks. Banks had the best season out of all the guys there but of course didn't win because he wasn't a senior like Palmer......

 

[Spudd]

It's probably a good thing Dorsey didn't win. Now he can go on to the NFL without the bad luck that the Heisman has brought to QBs in the last decade. Hehe. BTW, I think McGahee should have won. Hands down, he's the reason Miami has gone undefeated. He's pulled our butts out of the fire all the time, and shows up for all 4 quarters of a game...unlike Dorsey.

 

[Bad Dude]

Palmer did not make his team a lot better. It was his team that got a lot better. I would have agreed if Dorsey is not the best to get it but McGahee should have win, so did Banks, and Marshall's quarterback too, playing hurt.

 

[blstriker]

The only reason Carson had a 5th year was because he broke is collarbone a few years back. He started as a freshman. Where do you get this crap where he couldn't graduate? That's complete bs and shows you don't know much about him at all. He was clearly the hottest football player this year. Don't forget, USC had the #1 strength of schedule and spanked ND 44-13. He totally deserved it.

 

[MazerRackham]

Originally posted by: blstriker
The only reason Carson had a 5th year was because he broke is collarbone a few years back. He started as a freshman. Where do you get this crap where he couldn't graduate? That's complete bs and shows you don't know much about him at all. He was clearly the hottest football player this year. Don't forget, USC had the #1 strength of schedule and spanked ND 44-13. He totally deserved it.

Thank you.

 

[Dudd]

Well, I would have voted for Dorsey because of his outstanding record over his career, but now that I've actually though about, I would have just wrote "Miami Hurricanes OLine" on my ballot and been done with it. I mean, Dorsey could stay in the pocket for years and still not get hit, and unless you have Barry Sanders in your backfield eluding ten tacklers on even the most mundane four yard runs, the Oline has to dominate to sustain the kind of running game Miami had. It'll never happen though because the Heisman really is for the best running back or quarterback in the game, not the best players.

<-Biased lineman

 

[Bad Dude]

You have to be a student at USC to play football there. So whether or not he broke his colar bone or not, any degree would only require only 4 years. He took 5 years which means ecademically, he could not graduate and had to stay an extra year that is why he gets to play football. So colar bone or not, he is still deficient ecademically.
So before you count some one out, think first. If he had only 4 years, he would have not even be in the picture at all.

 

[classy]

He was 5th if you ask me. Oh well.

 

[Evadman]

Beer was involved. Lots of beer.

 

[hdeck]

OMFG people, Johnson should have won that award hands down.

 

[jteef]

i dont really care much about the heisman race this year. carson palmer was the last person who should have won it though. USC was 1-2 against the only 3 good teams they played. Miami's scheduled looked absolutely sick before the season started. FSU, UF, Tenn, and VT are all top tier programs. beating all of them probably didn't do much for their SoS either.

mcahee and dorsey finishing 4th and 5th is absurd though. I also couldn't believe leftwich didn't make the final cut.

The Heisman is NOT a career achievement award.

tell that to the folks that voted for ron dayne.

jt

 

[Dudd]

Originally posted by: jteef
mcahee and dorsey finishing 4th and 5th is absurd though.

The obvious answer for that is that they syphoned off votes from each other. The people who felt that the Heisman had to come from Miami, the best team in the country so far, didn't have a clear choice in the matter. Neither one of them seperated themselves from the other, and it's hard to vote for a guy who wasn't even the clear winner on his own team.

 

[LikeLinus]

To be honest, the real winner should have been Banks. He led the nation is passing efficiency and threw only 4 INT's. He did it with his arm, his feet, and his head. He turned around IOWA. Do you think Palmer would have had the year banks did with IOWA? Sure Palmer had a great year, but damn look at the talent that USC can recruit every year. It took Palmer 4 years to have a "breakout" year. This was Banks first year a starter and he dominated and brought Iowa to the national spotlight. I highly doubt that Palmer wouldn't have had nearly the season he had if he were in Banks shoes at Iowa.

Personally though, I'd like to seen Larry Johnson win. Becoming the 9th person in NCAA history (realize how many schools and RB's there are) to break 2,000 yrds in 11-12 games! He also had the least amount of carries for any 2,000 yrd player. Factor in that he plays for a lousy Penn State team this year. He was a hell of a back.

 

[blstriker]

I agree that most people can graduate in 4 years. However, what do you say to all the people from public schools where 5 years is not abnormal? Places like ucla or cal? Are those students deficient? I don't think so. Also, we're talking about sports here. Most college football players who aren't superstars redshirt thier freshman year because they sit on the bench most of the time. It's more common than not. If Carson didn't injure himself, he would have played 4 years. Now you're going to dis him because he got hurt? He didn't redshirt. Deficient academically is bs. If you still stick with this arguement, go look up the rest of the other candidates, most of them redshirted their freshman year. Are they exempt from your line of reasoning? Because they are deficient academically as well.

All the candidates were very good. Carson was just better.

#1 strength of schedule. The sos of the other players and their respective teams can't match this.

 

[Pastore]

And every year people bitch about the results.

Last years bitch and moan thread

 

[spanky]

these b!tch and moan threads are fun to read

 

[gar598]

Originally posted by: Bad_Dude
You have to be a student at USC to play football there. So whether or not he broke his colar bone or not, any degree would only require only 4 years. He took 5 years which means ecademically, he could not graduate and had to stay an extra year that is why he gets to play football. So colar bone or not, he is still deficient ecademically.
So before you count some one out, think first. If he had only 4 years, he would have not even be in the picture at all.

Actually, I know players who are 5th year players(who were redshirted their freshman year) who are working towards their masters. We don't know the circumstances (at least I don't).

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Bad_Dude
He would be the last of all the candidates that I would think can win the trophy. He could not graduate from his class and had to stay an extra year to as a fifth year senior. He has done nothing much except for the last few games. USC lost two games, he won and made plays because of his team and not because of his leadership.
Dorsey should have won the trophy. Two times champions. You can say they played a soft schedule but they don't make up the schedule. All but one team, the Hurricanes had proven themselves superior to the rest this year and last year. Every time they need a play, he came through for them. Palmer only won the games that he should have win but yet he lost two games. Dorsey is 38-1 and a good 4 years career. Palmer only had a few months career and the rest before was unknown. I guess they feel bad that Palmer had to stay an extra year to play a little better. Palmer should not have gotten the trophy. If any one else would have win the trophy I would support him, but Palmer? He should not have win it. What a disappointment? Bad votings.
Look at what they did, they voted for the Sooners, notre Dame, and OSU to go before Miami and in the end only Miami proven themselves a great team. Ohio State is going to suffer the same fate as Nebraska last year. Destroy!!!

Exactly the kind of sniveling that you'd expect from the whiney bitches that are typical Miami Fans

 

[Mill]

Either Banks or Johnson should have won and that is ALL THERE IS TO IT!!!

 

[m2kewl]

wth?! banks got robbed!!! :|

 

[CrowDog]

For some reason I have a feeling that because its been over 20yrs since a westcoast guy won the trophy (there were questions of "the east coast bias") that it played alittle part in the outcome. Also being a senior seems to play a big role aswell.

I also have a feeling that you could throw a number of guys into the Hurricane system and they would do well...

 

[blstriker]

I think the nationally televised USC ND game where SC won by 44-13 really made everybody look up. Even carson said himself that if banks would have played a few weeks later, banks would have won. It sucks for banks that their season ended 3 weeks before everybody else. this gave time for people to forget about him. that's too bad. but i'm still estatic that Carson got it. He was awesome down the home stretch.

 

[Skallowagg]

you see how he runs!! omg you can tell he just got a buttload!! rofl literally!!