How Did Green Day Get Categorized As "Punk?"

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May 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: Reck
all those bands you listed suck anyhow. so why are you ragging on greenday?

Wow, you need to go back to elementary school and work on your reading comprehension you fscktard. I never said Green Day sucked, I just said that I wouldn't really classify their music as punk.
 

Deeko

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Jun 16, 2000
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Evolution of the genre. Obviously 'punk' now is different from 'punk' in the 80s, just like rock now is different from rock in the 80's, same with rap....every genre. If someone who grew up listening to today's punk music heard the stuff you listed, it wouldn't seem at all punk to them and you'd be the fool in their eyes. Welcome to the world of music.

The real question is, who gives a sh!t what its classified as? You like it, or you don't.
 

Reel

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Evolution of the genre. Obviously 'punk' now is different from 'punk' in the 80s, just like rock now is different from rock in the 80's, same with rap....every genre. If someone who grew up listening to today's punk music heard the stuff you listed, it wouldn't seem at all punk to them and you'd be to fool in their eyes. Welcome to the world of music.

The real question is, who gives a sh!t what its classified as? You like it, or you don't.

:thumbsup:
 

BurnItDwn

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Oct 10, 1999
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When I hear the word "punk", I think Black Flag.
It's got to be hard hitting and simple.

That being said, I usually stick to death metal.
 

bigrash

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Evolution of the genre. Obviously 'punk' now is different from 'punk' in the 80s, just like rock now is different from rock in the 80's, same with rap....every genre. If someone who grew up listening to today's punk music heard the stuff you listed, it wouldn't seem at all punk to them and you'd be the fool in their eyes. Welcome to the world of music.

The real question is, who gives a sh!t what its classified as? You like it, or you don't.

i gotta agree!
 

Demon-Xanth

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Feb 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: Sunbird
This is why I don't even try to TAG my MP3 collection along the lines of genre, its so blurred these days.....


Very true.....

According to FreeDB Rob Zombie is Folk and Offspring is Classical.
 

rh71

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Aug 28, 2001
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I don't care for their music or much of today's radio music but the way I judge punk bands is usually just by appearance. Wild/colored hair + tattoos + eye makeup + small/skinny stature.

Of course I'm not talking about the music itself but if you say "punk band"... that's what I think of. And typically their music sounds alike... Good Charlotte, Bowling for Soup, etc. Blah.
 
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Growing up in the Bay Area, I remember the punk chicks in school wearing Green Day shirts when that band was nothing but a local phenomenon. This was Pre-Dookie obviously. I think they came out of Rodeo.

In all fairness, they could still be categorized as punk as recently as "Time Of Your Life" which is when they turned mainstream and went for the $$$.
 

Kev

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Dec 17, 2001
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why is it always the "punk" dorks who are obsessed whether or not something is really "punk." pretty fvcking lame if you ask me. who cares what its label is.
 

No self-respecting punk band would write "When September Ends" or "Blvd of Broken Dreams" much less whore themselves out on every MTV special, teen bop magazine, and whatever else.

To an extent, punk cannot be defined. It is, pretty much lack of definition, or a choice not to allow oneself to be labeled. At the same time, what Green Day does these days is just corporate whoremanship.

I liked American Idiot when it came out, and I hate to be one of those people who put down bands when they get big, but the media saturation of Green Day just makes me sick of seeing their mugs and hearing them play. They allowed themselves to get overexposed. Not got for any band.
 

nakedfrog

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Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: rh71
I don't care for their music or much of today's radio music but the way I judge punk bands is usually just by appearance. Wild/colored hair + tattoos + eye makeup + small/skinny stature.

Of course I'm not talking about the music itself but if you say "punk band"... that's what I think of. And typically their music sounds alike... Good Charlotte, Bowling for Soup, etc. Blah.

Those bands I will definitely cede as being pop-punk, not punk. And we all know pop music = bad (or 99.8% of it anyway).
 

nakedfrog

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Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Growing up in the Bay Area, I remember the punk chicks in school wearing Green Day shirts when that band was nothing but a local phenomenon. This was Pre-Dookie obviously. I think they came out of Rodeo.

In all fairness, they could still be categorized as punk as recently as "Time Of Your Life" which is when they turned mainstream and went for the $$$.

I still have my old Lookout Records t-shirt... it's battered to all hell and about to die, though.
 

PatboyX

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Aug 10, 2001
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green day tried pop punk, failed.
tried hardcore punk, failed.
tried pop punk again and made it in their current form.
 

joeryu

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Evolution of the genre. Obviously 'punk' now is different from 'punk' in the 80s, just like rock now is different from rock in the 80's, same with rap....every genre. If someone who grew up listening to today's punk music heard the stuff you listed, it wouldn't seem at all punk to them and you'd be the fool in their eyes. Welcome to the world of music.

The real question is, who gives a sh!t what its classified as? You like it, or you don't.

couldnt have said it better myself

btw i think their latest cd american idiot was their best yet.
 
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