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agent00f

Lifer
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but but obama. If obama can miss security briefings and ignore intelligence analysts... why are you holding trump to a different standard. You are nothing but a sorry agephobe agecist.

It must drive you nuts that a black guy from humble roots lived in the white house for so long. So much so that your sort would far prefer the "mexicans are rapists"/"grab 'em by the pussy" complete degenerate. White power, amiright?
 

bshole

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-Raised taxes
-Lost jobs to other countries overseas
-More americans on food stamps than ever
-Unemployment rate up
-Debt up

It's not an exaggeration to say that Obama will have achieved absolutely nothing - his whole legacy depended on Clinton winning. His two "accomplishments" are Obamacare and the Iran Deal. Once those are repealed it will be like he never even happened - everything else he did, he did through executive order so they will vanish with the new President. Obama meant to change the scope of history, but instead 8 years of "Hope" are going to just be a footnote in the history books.

Globalist politicians thought they were building a New World Order that would last forever, and it has collapsed right in front of them by the hand of populism. Brutal.

I take it your weren't in the stock market during the Obama years. You had no skin in the game. Those of us who had actually assets invested in the market are quite grateful for his presidency.
 

John Connor

Lifer
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I take it your weren't in the stock market during the Obama years. You had no skin in the game. Those of us who had actually assets invested in the market are quite grateful for his presidency.


A damn monkey could have been POTUS and still do what Mr. Golf his ass off did. He ain't done shit.
 

bshole

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A damn monkey could have been POTUS and still do what Mr. Golf his ass off did. He ain't done shit.

He REGULATED banks and the steady consistent returns of the DJIA were a natural offshoot. It will be interesting to see what happens after Trump deregulates them again. Having been through the Bush recession brought about by bank deregulation, I am rather skeptical that it will work out well for those of us in the market.
 
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fskimospy

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A damn monkey could have been POTUS and still do what Mr. Golf his ass off did. He ain't done shit.

So wait, the stock market is a good example of a president doing well when you want to attribute it to Trump, but when it comes up that the stock market has more than doubled under Obama then anyone could have done it.

You can't honestly be this stupid. Even you have to see how ridiculous your argument is, no?
 

senseamp

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Because of their failed supply side economics and neocon foreign policies, Republicans can't match Obama's record, all they can do is trash talk about it, like they did about Bill Clinton's record.
 

John Connor

Lifer
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He REGULATED banks and the steady consistent returns of the DJIA were a natural offshoot. It will be interesting to see what happens after Trump deregulates them again. Having been through the Bush recession brought about by bank deregulation, I am rather skeptical that it will work out well for those of us in the market.


Barney Frank.

sudu endBS end
 

John Connor

Lifer
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So wait, the stock market is a good example of a president doing well when you want to attribute it to Trump, but when it comes up that the stock market has more than doubled under Obama then anyone could have done it.

You can't honestly be this stupid. Even you have to see how ridiculous your argument is, no?


You don't understand the simple fact the stock market jump its highest in 20 damn years?
 

John Connor

Lifer
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Because of their failed supply side economics and neocon foreign policies, Republicans can't match Obama's record, all they can do is trash talk about it, like they did about Bill Clinton's record.


Speaking of trash talk... looks who's talking 5.1
 
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A damn monkey could have been POTUS and still do what Mr. Golf his ass off did. He ain't done shit.
goddamn, you are perhaps the dumbest motherfucker here, conner.

Obama - 300 rounds of golf
Wilson - 1,200 rounds of golf
Eisenhower - 800 rounds of golf

vacation days
Obama - 125 days in 8 years
dubya - 879 days in 8 years.
ronnie raygun - 355 in 8 years


I know math isn't your strong suit, but Obama's numbers are fractions (parts of whole numbers) of the other presidents. But don't let facts bother you boy blunder.
 

fskimospy

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You don't understand the simple fact the stock market jump its highest in 20 damn years?

I can barely understand what you just wrote, haha. Anyways, thank you to leading everyone here to recognize that Obama had one of the all time great performances in terms of stock market gains, meaning by your own measure he is one of the greatest presidents of all time.

I really always thought you were insanely conservative but I'm glad even you can appreciate complete and total success when you see it.
 

Commodus

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On the jobs issue: jobs aren't overseas because of the tax rate, and labor costs are only part of it.

A lot of it is down to the inherent logistical advantages. In China, you have a much larger population of people with just the right amount of training for factory work. Need 3,000 people to boost production of that new smartphone? They can start in two weeks. In the US, you'd be thankful if you could amass that kind of talent in a year; if people are qualified, they tend to be overqualified.

Then there's the direct access to suppliers. Need a tweak to your battery or camera module? They're probably just a couple of hours away, if not down the street. You can make rapid changes that are much harder when you have to ship components overseas. And of course, there's the cost of shipping those parts overseas...

This isn't even touching on the whole question of automation and how long these jobs will last.

That's what's frustrating about Trump's "we'll make them bring jobs back." It shows a fundamental ignorance of how complex the situation is. You can't just will jobs into existence -- you have to understand why jobs are where they are, and determine whether or not it's feasible to bring jobs over without introducing extra headaches.
 

John Connor

Lifer
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I can barely understand what you just wrote, haha. Anyways, thank you to leading everyone here to recognize that Obama had one of the all time great performances in terms of stock market gains, meaning by your own measure he is one of the greatest presidents of all time.

I really always thought you were insanely conservative but I'm glad even you can appreciate complete and total success when you see it.


Why don't you read some thought provoking, intellectual news for a change and not the left-wing bull shit websites? http://www.marketwatch.com/story/st...hey-havent-done-in-nearly-20-years-2016-12-08
 

agent00f

Lifer
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On the jobs issue: jobs aren't overseas because of the tax rate, and labor costs are only part of it.

A lot of it is down to the inherent logistical advantages. In China, you have a much larger population of people with just the right amount of training for factory work. Need 3,000 people to boost production of that new smartphone? They can start in two weeks. In the US, you'd be thankful if you could amass that kind of talent in a year; if people are qualified, they tend to be overqualified.

Then there's the direct access to suppliers. Need a tweak to your battery or camera module? They're probably just a couple of hours away, if not down the street. You can make rapid changes that are much harder when you have to ship components overseas. And of course, there's the cost of shipping those parts overseas...

This isn't even touching on the whole question of automation and how long these jobs will last.

That's what's frustrating about Trump's "we'll make them bring jobs back." It shows a fundamental ignorance of how complex the situation is. You can't just will jobs into existence -- you have to understand why jobs are where they are, and determine whether or not it's feasible to bring jobs over without introducing extra headaches.

It got to be that way due to the labor costs plus half decent gubmint planning. A lot of migrant workers willing to labor in factories because it paid a lot better than dirty farming.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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Why don't you read some thought provoking, intellectual news for a change and not the left-wing bull shit websites? http://www.marketwatch.com/story/st...hey-havent-done-in-nearly-20-years-2016-12-08

Speaking of reading, from your own link: "On Friday, the Dow, S&P 500 and the Nasdaq Composite were all on track to all log five consecutive closes in positive territory in a row at the same time, something that hasn’t happened since 2011."

We'll have to properly research who was president then, and now.

You're like a parody of an idiot, so comically stupid it's almost surreal.
 

fskimospy

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Why don't you read some thought provoking, intellectual news for a change and not the left-wing bull shit websites? http://www.marketwatch.com/story/st...hey-havent-done-in-nearly-20-years-2016-12-08

That's one of the dumbest metrics I have ever seen in my entire life.

Are you denying that Obama has presided over some of the best stock market performance in history? If not, by your own standard he was great. I would think you would be happy that we had such a great president for the last eight years, why aren't you??
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
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I went to school during those days. They weren't bad or good, but it sure wasn't slop. Have you seen the pictures?

Slop is adequate food for pigs.
I don't believe the lunches served in school back then would have met agricultural standards for pig food.
It was always a Disgusting grease and mystery "meat" special or it was their rock hard hockey puck "burgers" or their cardboard square "pizza" which did'nt have any real sauce, cheese, or crust.

Anyhow, I agree that school lunches are broken, and that Obama did not fix them, however, I would argue that they were completely broken long before that. The problem is that they are reheating freeze dried mush, instead of actually cooking & preparing a real meal from fresh ingredients.
 
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