how difficult is it to obtain a gun, am worried about my families safety

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Gerle

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Artdeco, I think he was trying to tell me they exist, since I asked him where he'd seen one.
 

JackBurton

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I'm pretty sure you'd bring attention lugging around that much stuff.. Even then it's illegal to own a fully auto anything (though I'm sure you're talking about a M60 which is belt fed) without going through a very involved process that requires a deep background check and other measures that track you and that auto gun.

This is an example of what I mentioned earlier about people that want to debate gun laws but don't have a clue what those laws are.. Hell, this is giving the leeway to say that he typo the M60 into an M16 even though odds are high that he doesn't know what gun is what, other than they're all those OMG evil black rifles the news talks about. You'd think when you're trying to call people out that have a different opinion than you as putting FUD out there, you'd at least learn wtf you're talking about..

Full auto weapons are legal in most states, but they are very expensive.

But you're right, DCal430 has no idea what he's talking about on MOST topics, but that doesn't stop him from spewing misinformation.
 
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Gerle

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He did mention the complicated process involved in legally owning automatic weapons, keep reading past the part you bolded.
 

JackBurton

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He did mention the complicated process involved in legally owning automatic weapons, keep reading past the part you bolded.

It's not complicated at all. The most complicated part is coming up with the money to pay for them.
 

Gerle

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I know that, but SOME people here have no knowledge of experience whatsoever when it comes to this subject. I'm trying to make sure they come away from here just a little more informed than before.
 

CZroe

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Totally different, he was a snipet targeting one at a time. Bring a belt fed M16 to a crowded football game and see how people can be mowed down.

You said "hundreds in seconds." Name one person who has personally killed more people with their own guns in decades. No delegating dictators. No gas chambers and chemical weapons from one guy pushing a button. Now show me where one single gun has ever been used to kill "hundreds in seconds."

Shameless hyperbole while accusing others of FUD is damned ironic. Defending it once called out is just laughable.
 
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Artdeco

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You said "hundreds in seconds." Name one person who has personally killed more people with their own guns in decades. No delegating dictators. No gas chambers and chemical weapons from one guy pushing a button. Now show me where one single gun has ever been used to kill "hundreds in seconds."

Shameless hyperbole while accusing others of FUD is damned ironic. Defending it once called out is just laughable.

Yeah, I don't think he understands the current gun laws either. I think you'd have to be a Class 4 dealer or manufacturer to possess that particular weapon.
 
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JackBurton

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I know that, but SOME people here have no knowledge of experience whatsoever when it comes to this subject. I'm trying to make sure they come away from here just a little more informed than before.

Fair enough Gerle.
 

JackBurton

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Yeah, I don't think he understands the current gun laws either. I think you'd have to be a Class 4 dealer or manufacturer to possess that particular weapon.

He doesn't understand ANYTHING related to guns and has demonstrated that many times. But that doesn't stop him from making stupid comments.
 

Gerle

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I wonder what he is like in real life, maybe he's just trolling? You never know, he could be a one of those relatively normal guys in the neighborhood, or maybe he's one of those "occupy" douchebags and really believes in the crap he spews here.
 

Red Squirrel

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So, did Santa bring you that gun yet? The safety of your family depends on it. There are lot of bad people out there, it is your civil duty as an American to be armed at all times and have enough fire arms within reach for every member of the family at any instant, to ensure you can fully defend yourself in the event of an ambush.
 

DCal430

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I am someone who knows the truth about guns, someone who knows if we banned all guns and seized all guns crime would drop by more than 50% in less than 5 years. Poverty would decline, and people's overall lives would improve.
 
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Skel

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I am someone who knows the truth about guns, someone who knows if we banned all guns and seized all guns crime would drop by more than 50% in less than 5 years. Poverty would decline, and people's overall lives would improve.

I'll play...

50% seems really low. If you seized all guns wouldn't it drop to zero? After all you're banning and seizing ALL guns, they couldn't be used as they'd gone. Also I'm unsure how putting all the people that make them out of work would cause poverty to decline, seems it would increase. Please explain, and do show your work so we all can follow along..
 

Gerle

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He said crime in general, so he's wrong. 50% of all crimes are not gun related, most assaults are not gun related, not to speak of theft, drug related crimes, embezzlement, whatever. This guy is so full of it.
 

DCal430

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Question for you pro gun nuts, do you have fantasies about killing people with your gun.
 

CZroe

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Question for you pro gun nuts, do you have fantasies about killing people with your gun.

You are fantasizing about all pro gun people being nutters.

FWIW, I have ABSOLUTELY NO interest in guns. Never cared one bit. I saw you making an ass of yourself and had to say something. This response proves just how shameless you are.
 

Ichinisan

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He said crime in general, so he's wrong. 50% of all crimes are not gun related, most assaults are not gun related, not to speak of theft, drug related crimes, embezzlement, whatever. This guy is so full of it.

Just imagine how much those other crime rates will increase when the perpetrators know they can do whatever they want.
 

Gerle

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DCal, if you were just a little bit polite you might get some real answers. What kind of response do you think you are going to get when you keep on calling people names?
 

MongGrel

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Full auto weapons are legal in most states, but they are very expensive.

But you're right, DCal430 has no idea what he's talking about on MOST topics, but that doesn't stop him from spewing misinformation.

Just getting a license to own a full auto legal weapon is a pretty arduous process, unless things have changed these days.

You would be screened on several levels I'm pretty sure.
 

MongGrel

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I am someone who knows the truth about guns, someone who knows if we banned all guns and seized all guns crime would drop by more than 50% in less than 5 years. Poverty would decline, and people's overall lives would improve.

You actually sound like someone that knows very little about the subject to be honest.
 
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