how difficult is it to obtain a gun, am worried about my families safety

[MagickMan]

I'd be much more concerned about being killed by a teen or elderly person driving a car.

 

[Skel]

I am someone who knows the truth about guns, someone who knows if we banned all guns and seized all guns crime would drop by more than 50% in less than 5 years. Poverty would decline, and people's overall lives would improve.

 

[Paladin3]

I am someone who knows the truth about guns, someone who knows if we banned all guns and seized all guns crime would drop by more than 50% in less than 5 years. Poverty would decline, and people's overall lives would improve.

Poverty would decline? WTF?

Even if you got a complete ban pushed through, there is no possible way to seize all guns in America without starting a civil war, which you would lose.

I agree that the world would be better if we could snap our fingers and magically end all violence, but that shit ain't real. So long as evil exists in the hearts of some men I'm not going to lay down my guns.

You remind me of one of the folks who say "violence is NEVER the answer." Well, regrettably, sometimes it is the only answer when the shit hits the fan. People who live in the relative safety provided by others who stand guard for them will never understand this.

Not to mention it's hard to hunt ducks with just your finger, no mater how loud you yell *bang*.

 

[WelshBloke]

At the risk of getting a reasonable discussion..


What would make someone buy the gun in the second picture over the one in the first?

 

[smackababy]

At the risk of getting a reasonable discussion..


What would make someone buy the gun in the second picture over the one in the first?

Likely made of a composite material and not wood, making it lighter and easier to handle. Also, allows for more attachments, like different optics, etc. And while all of those would make it easier to kill someone, any use you'd have for a wooden SKS would be done more efficiently with the second.

 

[lxskllr]

At the risk of getting a reasonable discussion..


What would make someone buy the gun in the second picture over the one in the first?

They like the look, or perhaps they're preppers. I just bought an axe I have almost no use for just cause I liked it. I personally like vintage/historic weapons, but there's no reason the inverse can't be true for others.

 

[WelshBloke]

Likely made of a composite material and not wood, making it lighter and easier to handle. Also, allows for more attachments, like different optics, etc. And while all of those would make it easier to kill someone, any use you'd have for a wooden SKS would be done more efficiently with the second.

Would you say that the second gun would come from a different gun culture than the first?

 

[WelshBloke]

They like the look, or perhaps they're preppers. I just bought an axe I have almost no use for just cause I liked it. I personally like vintage/historic weapons, but there's no reason the inverse can't be true for others.

So you bought the axe as a fashion thing or a fetish thing rather than a tool?

 

[smackababy]

Would you say that the second gun would come from a different gun culture than the first?

I would say the second gun is an advancement of technology to make it more effective, and someone leaning towards that either prefers more modern technology or prefer something with more customization options.

Really the three options would be: availability, effectiveness, and personal preference.

 

[lxskllr]

So you bought the axe as a fashion thing or a fetish thing rather than a tool?

More or less. I made a thread about it. It's best use is as a weapon, and I have plenty of weapons. I can carry it at work for sketchy areas, but that's just icing on the cake. If my heavy axe, machete, and fixed blade knife aren't enough, the new axe probably won't help :^D It's quicker to deploy though, but whatever. I like the way it looked, and $40 isn't an egregious expense, so I bought it.

 

[Phoenix86]

Would you say that the second gun would come from a different gun culture than the first?

Same culture, different period. Think about it like a car, some like vintage, others like modern cutting edge machines. How often does a sports car see a race track?

 

[smackababy]

Same culture, different period. Think about it like a car, some like vintage, others like modern cutting edge machines. How often does a sports car see a race track?

And, to go along with the beloved AT car analogy, is a 200HP automatic transmission car less dangerous than the 450HP, turbocharged version?

 

[Artdeco]

At the risk of getting a reasonable discussion..


What would make someone buy the gun in the second picture over the one in the first?

Some would argue they need a weapon like that, even though functionally, they're nearly identical. I have an AR and an AR pistol, they're range toys.

Polymer hardware does help the weapon tolerate more abuse, wood stocks look like hell if you're not careful, and the polymer can be cheaper, and allow more complex shapes. A new generation of polymer pistols is showing up.

 

[MongGrel]

I still prefer wood stocks myself.

But that is me I guess.

 

[Artdeco]

I still prefer wood stocks myself.

But that is me I guess.

In a hunting rifle, agreed, there are some beautiful examples.

 

[OverVolt]

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[olds]

At the risk of getting a reasonable discussion..


What would make someone buy the gun in the second picture over the one in the first?

Ya, why not buy both.

 

[CZroe]

At the risk of getting a reasonable discussion..


What would make someone buy the gun in the second picture over the one in the first?

I think the point is that that they are essentially the same gun. The difference is primarily in outsiders' reaction to it.

They like the look, or perhaps they're preppers. I just bought an axe I have almost no use for just cause I liked it. I personally like vintage/historic weapons, but there's no reason the inverse can't be true for others.

Would you say that the second gun would come from a different gun culture than the first?

Just wanna make sure you realize this as well.

 

[werepossum]

Poverty would decline? WTF?

Even if you got a complete ban pushed through, there is no possible way to seize all guns in America without starting a civil war, which you would lose.

I agree that the world would be better if we could snap our fingers and magically end all violence, but that shit ain't real. So long as evil exists in the hearts of some men I'm not going to lay down my guns.

You remind me of one of the folks who say "violence is NEVER the answer." Well, regrettably, sometimes it is the only answer when the shit hits the fan. People who live in the relative safety provided by others who stand guard for them will never understand this.

Not to mention it's hard to hunt ducks with just your finger, no mater how loud you yell *bang*.

Well said, but you are arguing with someone who looks to North Korea as an ideal society. I'm not saying he can't find an occasional acorn, I'm just saying the blind pig is waaaay ahead.

They like the look, or perhaps they're preppers. I just bought an axe I have almost no use for just cause I liked it. I personally like vintage/historic weapons, but there's no reason the inverse can't be true for others.

Well . . . personally I don't think twice about catching a glimpse of a concealed pistol, but I keep my distance from the guy carrying an axe.