Again...
1)PA one call isnt going to know where our private lines and conduits are.
2)this wasnt a digging project, it was a rewiring project.
How large was the area he was in where he was looking for those items ? If you divided that area into a grid how many areas would there be that contained something you wanted vs areas that did not ?
Probability often is at work .
Of those things I know for a fact that the gas lines and the water lines are on file with county records. It is a federal offense to have gas mains buried and in use and not have them mapped.
I would hope someone involved in construction would know about these people:
http://www.call811.com/state-specific.aspx
i did not try them. but I did watch the guy use them, and they worked perfectly well.
i also know he said it took him years of practise to perfect the technique.
1)PA one call isnt going to know where our private lines and conduits are.
No, they appeared to work.
Your private lines on state property?
Seriously sao123, Diving rods don't do squat. There is no technique except the techniques of a con artist. Be happy this guy wasn't trying to con you out of your wallet, because it sounds like you would have not only given him your wallet, but the deed to your house.
I am an assistant manager in the IT Office in a state government organization. By "our" private lines I mean the states... my office...my lines.
the data, phone, and television come into the complex at the main demarc location. how they get distributed to the rest of the campus 13 buildings in all, is not owned, run, mapped, or in any way affiliated with the public phone, cable, or internet companies. We have our own wires run in our own underground conduits, pulled by our own contracted certified wiring contractors.
Hard to believe that guy could show up with no prior knowledge of the place.
Hardly, since the guy wasnt getting paid for anything.
One of the structural engineers who was assigned to the project
You describe them as "private" implying that their location is proprietary information that no one outside your organization could have. And yet, as a government entity, that is quite unlikely.
I think it has been repeatedly suggested that he most likely had prior knowledge of the place.
Uh...
You also previously implied that he was a contractor. Does he work for free?
I've always wondered this as well, the only thing I can think of is that it works kinda like geologic surveys or uses similar principles.
What exactly are the rods made of, and is there anything special to it, like do they need batteries or have any type of electronics in/on them? Or is there any kind of prep work to the ground before hand, like some kind of equipment that is placed?
If you can really do this, there's a million dollar prize waiting for you. srsly.I've experienced dowsing rods twisting in my hands. It was pretty creepy.
I was at a new jobsite and the plumber handed me the rods and told me how to use them. He had me walk around for a minute while he unloaded his truck. At some point they crossed, I could feel a force being applied to them, and I marked the spot on the ground with a piece of lumber.
He took me about a hundred feet away to an open trench and showed me the end of a 1" PEX water line that headed directly to the spot I marked and continued directly on to the water meter cover at the street.
I had no idea what I was looking for or if there was even anything there to find. It was in a freshly graded area that I had never seen before. For some reason the rods crossed on there own at a spot over a water line buried 4' below the surface.
I don't know what any of it means other than I experienced something that many other people think is BS.
It is a pair of L shaped rods of steel or copper. no electronics no batteries or any other equipment.
If you can really do this, there's a million dollar prize waiting for you. srsly.
You're looking in the wrong field. Try psychology.we have many field theorys and applications, we have the entire electromagnetic field spectrum... and gravity... What makes you think that such a device is impossible to work? just because something is called divine, what makes you think it has to be some faux spiritual device? if you can find 1 or 2 things correctly, that could be considered coincidence. But a dozen? two dozen? At what point do you believe in the reliability of results?
That site is both sad and hilarious.
Why someone would agree to a scientific evaluation while knowing they are a con is beyond my comprehension.
That site is both sad and hilarious.
Why someone would agree to a scientific evaluation while knowing they are a con is beyond my comprehension.
and yet...Isnt it amazing how many people think they "just know" that something is bs, without any actual understanding themselves of what is going on?
Much of what is taught in public schools is dead flat wrong. From plate tectonics to the most basic properties of matter, its just wrong.
Isnt it amazing how many people think they "just know" that something is bs, without any actual understanding themselves of what is going on? I see this kind of attitude on display across multiple unrelated disciplines. Why do people just blindly accept everything they is taught in their very limited government (re)education centers? Much of what is taught in public schools is dead flat wrong. From plate tectonics to the most basic properties of matter, its just wrong.
Divining water/oil/etc, I have no idea how that could feasibly work. But divining a current carrying wire, that I could see working if your built up a significant charge on the rods and them being repelled or attracted to the live wire. But at more than a few inches I'd imagine the forces were talking about would be minuscule.