How do we solve global conflict ?

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
70,232
5,807
126
Jesus said much the same long time ago(not an attempt to proselytize(sp)). Not a new idea at all, but an oft overlooked one. Strangely these ideas should already be the norm, but we humans suck and have to always mold good ideas to our own Will, Good or Bad.

I'm not sure where Islam stands on the issue of Forgiveness/Justice/when/where/how, but at the base:

1) Judaism believes in Eye-for-an-eye. Pretty much what's going on now. Hasn't solved anything.

2) Christianity believes in Forgiveness, but you'd be hardpressed to find any amongst it's self-proclaimed followers. IMO, Christians should rip the Old Testament right out of their Bibles, it has unduly influenced them to follow foolishness. Make the Old Testament a separate book that can be used as a reference for the few issues where it is brought up in the New Testament. Why stop there though, make the New Testament the 4 Gospels only. If you are going to follow Jesus, why do you need anything other than his very words?

3) Islam, like I said I haven't a clue, but suspect it is one of the above or some variation on them.
 

jrenz

Banned
Jan 11, 2006
1,788
0
0
Achieving peace in the Middle East today would require a team of highly conscious peacemakers. I think the people on that team would need to at least be at the level of peace themselves, but I suspect even that wouldn?t be enough right now and that true enlightenment would be necessary (for at least one team member). Their goal would be to raise the consciousness of the leaders involved, and those leaders in turn could help to raise the consciousness of their own people. The leaders would need to stop preaching condemnation and violence and instead teach forgiveness and unconditional love. This would take considerable time and effort, but it would eventually work.

lolololololololol
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
64,795
84
91
3) Islam, like I said I haven't a clue, but suspect it is one of the above or some variation on them.

# Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6

# Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 2:10

# A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24

# Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 90

# For disbelievers is a painful doom. 2:104

# For unbelievers: ignominy in this world, an awful doom in the next. 2:114

# Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126

# The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162

# They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167

# Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174

# How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175

# "Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244

# Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

# War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

# Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 2:217

# Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257

# Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. 3:4

# Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 3:10

# Those who disbelieve shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell. 3:12

# Those who disbelieve, promise them a painful doom. 3:21

# Theirs will be a painful doom. 3:77

# All non-Muslims will be rejected by Allah after they die. 3:85

# Disbelievers will be cursed by Allah, angels, and men. They will have a painful doom. 3:87-88

# Disbelievers will have a painful doom. And they will have no helpers. 3:91

# Disbelievers will have their faces blackened on the last day. They will face an awful doom. 3:105-6

# Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 3:116


.....

there are 300+ more lines but i'll spare you the copy paste page flood.
rest here
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/Quran/cruelty/long.html


 

compuwiz1

Admin Emeritus Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
27,111
926
126
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
3) Islam, like I said I haven't a clue, but suspect it is one of the above or some variation on them.

# Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6

# Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 2:10

# A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24

# Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 90

# For disbelievers is a painful doom. 2:104

# For unbelievers: ignominy in this world, an awful doom in the next. 2:114

# Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126

# The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162

# They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167

# Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174

# How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175

# "Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244

# Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

# War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

# Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 2:217

# Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257

# Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. 3:4

# Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 3:10

# Those who disbelieve shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell. 3:12

# Those who disbelieve, promise them a painful doom. 3:21

# Theirs will be a painful doom. 3:77

# All non-Muslims will be rejected by Allah after they die. 3:85

# Disbelievers will be cursed by Allah, angels, and men. They will have a painful doom. 3:87-88

# Disbelievers will have a painful doom. And they will have no helpers. 3:91

# Disbelievers will have their faces blackened on the last day. They will face an awful doom. 3:105-6

# Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 3:116


.....

there are 300+ more lines but i'll spare you the copy paste page flood.
rest here
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/Quran/cruelty/long.html

:shocked: Sounds pretty violent to me. People really believe that garbage?

 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
70,232
5,807
126
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
3) Islam, like I said I haven't a clue, but suspect it is one of the above or some variation on them.

# Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6

# Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 2:10

# A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24

# Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 90

# For disbelievers is a painful doom. 2:104

# For unbelievers: ignominy in this world, an awful doom in the next. 2:114

# Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126

# The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162

# They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167

# Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174

# How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175

# "Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244

# Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

# War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

# Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 2:217

# Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257

# Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. 3:4

# Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 3:10

# Those who disbelieve shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell. 3:12

# Those who disbelieve, promise them a painful doom. 3:21

# Theirs will be a painful doom. 3:77

# All non-Muslims will be rejected by Allah after they die. 3:85

# Disbelievers will be cursed by Allah, angels, and men. They will have a painful doom. 3:87-88

# Disbelievers will have a painful doom. And they will have no helpers. 3:91

# Disbelievers will have their faces blackened on the last day. They will face an awful doom. 3:105-6

# Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 3:116


.....

there are 300+ more lines but i'll spare you the copy paste page flood.
rest here
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/Quran/cruelty/long.html

:roll:

Try again.
 

HombrePequeno

Diamond Member
Mar 7, 2001
4,657
0
0
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
3) Islam, like I said I haven't a clue, but suspect it is one of the above or some variation on them.

# Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6

# Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 2:10

# A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24

# Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 90

# For disbelievers is a painful doom. 2:104

# For unbelievers: ignominy in this world, an awful doom in the next. 2:114

# Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126

# The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162

# They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167

# Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174

# How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175

# "Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244

# Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

# War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

# Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 2:217

# Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257

# Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. 3:4

# Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 3:10

# Those who disbelieve shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell. 3:12

# Those who disbelieve, promise them a painful doom. 3:21

# Theirs will be a painful doom. 3:77

# All non-Muslims will be rejected by Allah after they die. 3:85

# Disbelievers will be cursed by Allah, angels, and men. They will have a painful doom. 3:87-88

# Disbelievers will have a painful doom. And they will have no helpers. 3:91

# Disbelievers will have their faces blackened on the last day. They will face an awful doom. 3:105-6

# Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 3:116


.....

there are 300+ more lines but i'll spare you the copy paste page flood.
rest here
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/Quran/cruelty/long.html

That's cute but that didn't really answer his question. You can find similar passages in the New Testament but that's not really what the Bible (New Testament) nor the Qu'ran is about.

Also, looking at a lot of those, the guy messed up the interpretation of quite a few of them. He took quite a few of them out of their context too.
 

fallensight

Senior member
Apr 12, 2006
462
0
0
Step #1 to solve world conflict would be to eliminate ALL religion. It would fall into place quickly soon after.

What is really, really funny about all the hostility between jews, christians and muslims, is they all worship the same god. All follow the God of Abraham.
 

XZeroII

Lifer
Jun 30, 2001
12,572
0
0
Originally posted by: fallensight
Step #1 to solve world conflict would be to eliminate ALL religion. It would fall into place quickly soon after.

What is really, really funny about all the hostility between jews, christians and muslims, is they all worship the same god. All follow the God of Abraham.

Step #1 is to kill all the politicians and lawyers. Step #2 is to kill everyone else.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
70,232
5,807
126
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
3) Islam, like I said I haven't a clue, but suspect it is one of the above or some variation on them.

# Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6

# Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 2:10

# A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24

# Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 90

# For disbelievers is a painful doom. 2:104

# For unbelievers: ignominy in this world, an awful doom in the next. 2:114

# Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126

# The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162

# They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167

# Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174

# How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175

# "Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244

# Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

# War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

# Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 2:217

# Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257

# Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. 3:4

# Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 3:10

# Those who disbelieve shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell. 3:12

# Those who disbelieve, promise them a painful doom. 3:21

# Theirs will be a painful doom. 3:77

# All non-Muslims will be rejected by Allah after they die. 3:85

# Disbelievers will be cursed by Allah, angels, and men. They will have a painful doom. 3:87-88

# Disbelievers will have a painful doom. And they will have no helpers. 3:91

# Disbelievers will have their faces blackened on the last day. They will face an awful doom. 3:105-6

# Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 3:116


.....

there are 300+ more lines but i'll spare you the copy paste page flood.
rest here
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/Quran/cruelty/long.html

[2.62] Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.

Just a little something I found within 15 minutes of starting to read the Quran.
 

miketheidiot

Lifer
Sep 3, 2004
11,060
1
0
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
3) Islam, like I said I haven't a clue, but suspect it is one of the above or some variation on them.

# Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6

# Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 2:10

# A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24

# Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 90

# For disbelievers is a painful doom. 2:104

# For unbelievers: ignominy in this world, an awful doom in the next. 2:114

# Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126

# The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162

# They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167

# Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174

# How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175

# "Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244

# Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

# War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

# Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 2:217

# Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257

# Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. 3:4

# Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 3:10

# Those who disbelieve shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell. 3:12

# Those who disbelieve, promise them a painful doom. 3:21

# Theirs will be a painful doom. 3:77

# All non-Muslims will be rejected by Allah after they die. 3:85

# Disbelievers will be cursed by Allah, angels, and men. They will have a painful doom. 3:87-88

# Disbelievers will have a painful doom. And they will have no helpers. 3:91

# Disbelievers will have their faces blackened on the last day. They will face an awful doom. 3:105-6

# Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 3:116


.....

there are 300+ more lines but i'll spare you the copy paste page flood.
rest here
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/Quran/cruelty/long.html

:shocked: Sounds pretty violent to me. People really believe that garbage?
the O/T doesn't look much different...
 

miketheidiot

Lifer
Sep 3, 2004
11,060
1
0
#1 eductation
#2 a *more* equal distribution of wealth.

Both allow people to buy into democracy, liberty, and all kinds of other ideals that do not lead to war.
 

Kadarin

Lifer
Nov 23, 2001
44,296
15
81
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
3) Islam, like I said I haven't a clue, but suspect it is one of the above or some variation on them.

# Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6

# Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 2:10

# A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24

# Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 90

# For disbelievers is a painful doom. 2:104

# For unbelievers: ignominy in this world, an awful doom in the next. 2:114

# Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126

# The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162

# They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167

# Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174

# How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175

# "Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244

# Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

# War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

# Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 2:217

# Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257

# Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. 3:4

# Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 3:10

# Those who disbelieve shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell. 3:12

# Those who disbelieve, promise them a painful doom. 3:21

# Theirs will be a painful doom. 3:77

# All non-Muslims will be rejected by Allah after they die. 3:85

# Disbelievers will be cursed by Allah, angels, and men. They will have a painful doom. 3:87-88

# Disbelievers will have a painful doom. And they will have no helpers. 3:91

# Disbelievers will have their faces blackened on the last day. They will face an awful doom. 3:105-6

# Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 3:116


.....

there are 300+ more lines but i'll spare you the copy paste page flood.
rest here
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/Quran/cruelty/long.html

In other words, the Islamic way to achieve world peace would be to convert everyone they can to Islam, and kill everyone else.

I can picture Islamic apologists coming into this thread and screaming "that site is quoting the Koran out of context!" as they always do...
 

Willoughbyva

Diamond Member
Sep 26, 2001
3,267
0
0
I believe education is the key. With education comes the ability to create something that didn't exist before. Plus it will give the mind new areas to process information and come to other conclusions. Still some educated people are wanting war. So I don't know what the real answer is. Perhaps a comfortable lifestyle not based on fear, hate, or hurt.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
70,232
5,807
126
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
3) Islam, like I said I haven't a clue, but suspect it is one of the above or some variation on them.

# Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6

# Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 2:10

# A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24

# Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 90

# For disbelievers is a painful doom. 2:104

# For unbelievers: ignominy in this world, an awful doom in the next. 2:114

# Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126

# The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162

# They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167

# Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174

# How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175

# "Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244

# Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

# War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

# Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 2:217

# Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257

# Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. 3:4

# Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 3:10

# Those who disbelieve shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell. 3:12

# Those who disbelieve, promise them a painful doom. 3:21

# Theirs will be a painful doom. 3:77

# All non-Muslims will be rejected by Allah after they die. 3:85

# Disbelievers will be cursed by Allah, angels, and men. They will have a painful doom. 3:87-88

# Disbelievers will have a painful doom. And they will have no helpers. 3:91

# Disbelievers will have their faces blackened on the last day. They will face an awful doom. 3:105-6

# Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 3:116


.....

there are 300+ more lines but i'll spare you the copy paste page flood.
rest here
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/Quran/cruelty/long.html

In other words, the Islamic way to achieve world peace would be to convert everyone they can to Islam, and kill everyone else.

I can picture Islamic apologists coming into this thread and screaming "that site is quoting the Koran out of context!" as they always do...

[2.62] Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.

Interesting, no?

It would seem that, quite unlike Judaism or Christianity, Islam is not an exclusive Religion.
 

straightalker

Senior member
Dec 21, 2005
515
0
0
Islam is a disgusting Satanic moon worshipping deception.

Any practitioner of it who declares a jihad should be considered a homicidal maniac.

...next.
 

keldog7

Senior member
Dec 1, 2005
235
0
0
Originally posted by: straightalker
Islam is a disgusting Satanic moon worshipping deception.

Any practitioner of it who declares a jihad should be considered a homicidal maniac.

...next.

To your first comment, I would say you are an ignoramus.
To your second comment, I tend to agree, but only because of the Christian nature of my upbringing, and the context in which I view the world and its events. From the Islamic context, I don't think I understand jihad well enough to comment on it.
-A
 

replicator

Senior member
Oct 7, 2003
431
0
0
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
3) Islam, like I said I haven't a clue, but suspect it is one of the above or some variation on them.

# Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6

# Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 2:10

# A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24

# Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 90

# For disbelievers is a painful doom. 2:104

# For unbelievers: ignominy in this world, an awful doom in the next. 2:114

# Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126

# The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162

# They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167

# Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174

# How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175

# "Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244

# Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

# War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

# Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 2:217

# Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257

# Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. 3:4

# Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 3:10

# Those who disbelieve shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell. 3:12

# Those who disbelieve, promise them a painful doom. 3:21

# Theirs will be a painful doom. 3:77

# All non-Muslims will be rejected by Allah after they die. 3:85

# Disbelievers will be cursed by Allah, angels, and men. They will have a painful doom. 3:87-88

# Disbelievers will have a painful doom. And they will have no helpers. 3:91

# Disbelievers will have their faces blackened on the last day. They will face an awful doom. 3:105-6

# Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 3:116


.....

there are 300+ more lines but i'll spare you the copy paste page flood.
rest here
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/Quran/cruelty/long.html

Doing a quick google search on violent quotes from the Christian bible. Do these mean the Bible/Christians are evil?

Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Exodus 22:20 He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.

Luke 19:27 "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Matthew 10:34 "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."

2 John 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Romans 1 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.


So what do you suggest for solving our global conflict? Your hatred runs deep.
 

jrenz

Banned
Jan 11, 2006
1,788
0
0
Originally posted by: replicator
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
3) Islam, like I said I haven't a clue, but suspect it is one of the above or some variation on them.

# Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6

# Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 2:10

# A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24

# Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 90

# For disbelievers is a painful doom. 2:104

# For unbelievers: ignominy in this world, an awful doom in the next. 2:114

# Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126

# The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162

# They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167

# Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174

# How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175

# "Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244

# Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

# War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

# Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 2:217

# Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257

# Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. 3:4

# Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 3:10

# Those who disbelieve shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell. 3:12

# Those who disbelieve, promise them a painful doom. 3:21

# Theirs will be a painful doom. 3:77

# All non-Muslims will be rejected by Allah after they die. 3:85

# Disbelievers will be cursed by Allah, angels, and men. They will have a painful doom. 3:87-88

# Disbelievers will have a painful doom. And they will have no helpers. 3:91

# Disbelievers will have their faces blackened on the last day. They will face an awful doom. 3:105-6

# Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 3:116


.....

there are 300+ more lines but i'll spare you the copy paste page flood.
rest here
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/Quran/cruelty/long.html

Doing a quick google search on violent quotes from the Christian bible. Do these mean the Bible/Christians are evil?

Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Exodus 22:20 He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.

Luke 19:27 "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Matthew 10:34 "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."

2 John 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Romans 1 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.


So what do you suggest for solving our global conflict? Your hatred runs deep.

It's a good thing Christianity went through major reforms hundreds of years ago, and no longer carry out crusades in the name of God. Unfortunately, Islam is several hundred years behind us, and seems to not want to change... hence the problem.
 
Jan 31, 2006
167
0
0
How do we sovle golbal conflict? That's easy.

3 prison inmates, 2 paper clips, 4 bars of soap, and one rubber band.

They can fix everything else with those items, I don't see why this would be any different.
 

HombrePequeno

Diamond Member
Mar 7, 2001
4,657
0
0
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
3) Islam, like I said I haven't a clue, but suspect it is one of the above or some variation on them.

# Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6

# Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 2:10

# A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24

# Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 90

# For disbelievers is a painful doom. 2:104

# For unbelievers: ignominy in this world, an awful doom in the next. 2:114

# Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126

# The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162

# They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167

# Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174

# How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175

# "Fight in the way of Allah." 2:190, 2:244

# Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

# War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

# Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 2:217

# Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257

# Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom. 3:4

# Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire. 3:10

# Those who disbelieve shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell. 3:12

# Those who disbelieve, promise them a painful doom. 3:21

# Theirs will be a painful doom. 3:77

# All non-Muslims will be rejected by Allah after they die. 3:85

# Disbelievers will be cursed by Allah, angels, and men. They will have a painful doom. 3:87-88

# Disbelievers will have a painful doom. And they will have no helpers. 3:91

# Disbelievers will have their faces blackened on the last day. They will face an awful doom. 3:105-6

# Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 3:116


.....

there are 300+ more lines but i'll spare you the copy paste page flood.
rest here
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/Quran/cruelty/long.html

In other words, the Islamic way to achieve world peace would be to convert everyone they can to Islam, and kill everyone else.

I can picture Islamic apologists coming into this thread and screaming "that site is quoting the Koran out of context!" as they always do...

None of those are quotes from the Qur'an. The guy did an interpretation (very poor ones, I might add) for each separate verse. Sure it may sound bad to "Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.)" but that's not what it actually says in the Qur'an. If you actually click on the link to what it's referring to it's easy to see the guy is a retard. What that's actually referring to is a verse saying it is okay to fight but you shouldn't be the aggressor in the situation. If someone attacks you, it is okay to fight back.

Maybe if you read at least some of the Qur'an you wouldn't be as ignorant.
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |