I don't discredit martial arts as useful but it's not going to stop a bullet.
I'd prefer to take MMA training if self-defense was something I was concerned about.
I don't discredit martial arts as useful but it's not going to stop a bullet.
WTF are you talking about, I am not carrying a gun today.
Also I don't follow anyone. I will make my statement and if they don't like it and it warrants the police I will make that call.
Yesterday I was told by the lady she would slap the shit out of me. I was sort of hoping for that. It would have been a great lesson for her to be on video at that cashier assaulting a white guy for just telling her she was blocking the entire drive through lane.
I was not in the wrong with that comment. I didn't say it like a dick, just let her know.
She went off and created the drama.
I don't discredit martial arts as useful but it's not going to stop a bullet.
Huge +1... At some point during the degradation of society over the last 30 years, it became unacceptable to 'call out' an ignorant dumbass. Nowadays you're supposed to shy away in a corner and ignore them, which is essentially accepting their behavior.
I'm with alky on this one... Act like a rude dumbass, don't get surprised when you're treated like a rude dumbass.
Knowing how to fight I feel should be a requirement for anyone getting a concealed carry permit.
The tactics you learn scale into weapons definitely.
What I find deplorable is all these guys in our forums 'supposedly' carrying daily and self-proclaimed MMA experts that do nothing at all and even recommend not getting involved in disputes witnessed.
sad times today.
Knowing how to fight I feel should be a requirement for anyone getting a concealed carry permit.
The tactics you learn scale into weapons definitely.
What I find deplorable is all these guys in our forums 'supposedly' carrying daily and self-proclaimed MMA experts that do nothing at all and even recommend not getting involved in disputes witnessed.
sad times today.
Kel-Tec makes some badass weps, I really like the sub-2000 (.40 version but heard the 9mm is fun too) tactical rifle that is only freaking 4 lbs (wife and kids can handle it in an emergency) and hits 2X as hard as any pistol/revolver. The kicker is that it's only around $300, has an extremely low rate of jamming, and the only complaint people had was the trigger but that is minor/picky stuff. Next I'm going to check out their "plastic" tactical short barrel shotgun for home defense.
Then you are escalating the situation. A no-go in Texas for CHL holders.
While I do commend your efforts to get involved to resolve other people's altercations, the laws that apply to me living in Texas would not be on your side.
According to Texas Penal Code 9.31:
(b) The use of force against another is not justified:
(4) if the actor provoked the other's use or attempted use of
unlawful force, unless:
(A) the actor abandons the encounter, or clearly communicates
to the other his intent to do so reasonably believing he cannot safely
abandon the encounter; and
(B) the other nevertheless continues or attempts to use unlawful
force against the actor;
A "reasonable" person would perceive that you provoked the other person, in which the self-defense laws in Texas would no longer defend you.
Also Penal Code 9.32:
(e) A person who has a right to be present at the location where the
force is used, who has not provoked the person against whom the force
is used, and who is not engaged in criminal activity at the time the force
is used is not required to retreat before using force as described by this
section.
Also, one thing that my instructor emphasized in my CHL class is that you should only be concerned with protecting yourself and your loved ones if a situation arises. The goal is to remove yourself and your loved ones from the immediate threat. If you start trying to clear rooms to seek out and neutralize the threat, you are likely to end up getting shot by law enforcement officers as there isn't a clear way to discern you from suspects.
FTFY, even if a pistol was completely made from bottle plastic it wouldn't be 4oz, never mind a rifle. SUB2000's are nice though, was tempted to pick up a 9mm I found not long ago.
You are either clueless or hiding behind the law as a coward.
Provoking is just confronting someone verbally, just like a simple touch is not enough for assault yet people believe it is.
WTF is talking about clearing rooms? We playing Call of Duty or some shit?
It escalated until she told me she was about to slap the shit out of me. I told her she better go and get a gun then.
You and yours are what you should be concerned with protecting.
Well, you're either paranoid or you live in a really shitty area. Most normal people don't feel the need to go around armed all the time.
Don't hate the messenger bro.
And don't get so angry. Take a stress pill or something.
Thanks for making assumptions about my character. Last I checked, abiding by the law is the correct thing to do.
When you made the statement:
You were not de-escalating the situation with verbal communication. Another thing discussed in the CHL class. Witnesses who give a statement to the police about this situation would say that you continued the conversation even though it continued to escalate. The witnesses may even side with you and say that you were in the right, but you did not "abandon the encounter, or clearly communicate to the other your intent to do so" as spelled out by Penal Code 9.31.
The "clearing rooms" example was given to rebut your examples. You and yours are what you should be concerned with protecting.
It's clear and we all get it...you have no desire to help anyone but yourself.
I live in Florida so whatever you keep misrepresenting about your own laws do not apply to me.
Also I had no need to abandon anything as I was waiting in line for food. You are clueless if you think your law would have demanded I then exit the restaurant with my tail between my legs and go elsewhere.
Please grow a pair.
776.041 Use of force by aggressor.The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:
(1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or
(2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:
(a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or
(b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.
Florida statutes excerpt:
Bolded the relevant section. Looks like your state's statutes read similarly to mine.
Please take a look at your states statues here: http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/ I would hate for you to be in a bad situation because you weren't familiar with your state's laws and statues.
Bullshit, you have a right to call someone on their stupidity.
Also lol at source ninja, not willing to do anything in real life but making a threat to come get my ass kicked at his dojo.
/agreeSmart = coward then.
/agree
It turns out that violent and aggressive proclivities reduce as intellect increases; this is why internet tough guys are such a joke.
We are disembodied thoughts in an ether of communication that doesn't care that i'm 6'1 and shoot 'roids; they only care that I have a MASSIVE IQ and can defeat others in a reasonable argument...
Do you run all your posts through a thesaurus first?
Hi Alky...
Just to be clear: you think my use of an expansive vocabulary is contrived and thus you feel this is some reasonable insult, yes?
I'm sorry to say, but this is how I speak in real life. Verbally I come off as a pretentious asshole that's full of himself who can only make friends with those that are equally self-efficacious.
You and I should be best buds, ya know?
THOSE are typical urban jobs to you?
The OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of jobs in America, comprising some 80%+ of GDP, are urban. If all of those people simple moved out into the country, the economy would collapse.
/thread.(4) if the actor provoked the other's use or attempted use of
unlawful force, unless:
(A) the actor abandons the encounter, or clearly communicates
to the other his intent to do so reasonably believing he cannot safely
abandon the encounter; and
(B) the other nevertheless continues or attempts to use unlawful
force against the actor;
no, I think you being so verbose and attempting to appear intellectual by using 'big words' is moronic.
If only I had a fast car, shot 'roids and called the cops with my paranoid delusions... then it'd not have to use my normal vocabulary while talking on the internet to over-compensate for my intense fear that people will reject me as a worthy human for having cheated on my wife.
This is the cross i must bear; I do it grudgingly, but I do accept it.