How do you carry a gun while jogging?

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JulesMaximus

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Maybe 4 reasonably fit guys? 10 seconds of google produces:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/04/05/3154687/johnson-wales-student-reports.html

It's rare, but it happens. My gun is disaster insurance, nothing more. It's not the act of carrying that makes one paranoid, it's the attitude. If someone's carrying and they're constantly looking around for some imminent threat like a wannabe-rambo, or constantly showing it off, then they're some combination of paranoid and/or insecure. With me and guys like me, you could hang out with us all day and you'd never know we were carrying unless we told you. And we wouldn't unless the conversation went that way for some reason. On average I think about my gun less than I think about my wallet.

It has never happened to me or anyone I know so it's rare enough that I won't bother strapping a gun to my body every single time I leave the house.

Another nice perk about carrying all the time. Once you feel comfortable enough to tell someone, it's an instant litmus test as to how judgmental they are.

What are the downsides? I would imagine the hassle of getting a CCW, choosing clothes that allow you to easily hide a gun must be a PITA too unless you're one of those tools who wears long pants in summer with a safari shirt and vest?

How about mistaken identity if you do actually ever need to draw your gun? Because Police have never shot and killed a CCW holder by accident I'm sure.

Then there's the whole FL thing with that Zimmerman guy, who is supposedly hispanic so he couldn't possible a racist, who shot that unarmed black kid.

Yeah, I can think of a whole lot of reasons to leave the guns at home actually...
 

Baked

Lifer
Dec 28, 2004
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I'd say just running around with a nail on a 2 by 4 is just effective.
 

J-Money

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If you guys just wear a sweet headband and tear the arms off a t-shirt I'm pretty sure you'll be safe since you'll look so badass.

I kid, I kid.

I'd be the type to be more paranoid of the gun strapped to me firing and hitting my junk. Regardless how many safeties it has.
 

Red Squirrel

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May 24, 2003
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lol @ paranoia.

Where I walk, there are BEARS (well, I saw one once). I don't even carry a gun, not that it's legal here. If I lived in a place where people regularly randomly attack others, I'd move. The bears are the biggest worry, and tbh they don't really worry me that much since they usually give you a funny look, then run away. They look so cuddly too. :wub:

You can also wear an Affliction tshirt. Nobody will mess with you because of how badass you are.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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I'm glad reports of joggers being mugged on the trail in broad daylight are so rare where you live. In many areas that is not the case.

really?

how so?

you mean like--Law and Order murder in Central Park = many areas?
 

Sinsear

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Jan 13, 2007
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Lol; i'm allowed to carry nearly everywhere in the US. I carry less than 10% of the time. And never when i'm jogging.
 
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lol @ paranoia.

Where I walk, there are BEARS (well, I saw one once). I don't even carry a gun, not that it's legal here. If I lived in a place where people regularly randomly attack others, I'd move. The bears are the biggest worry, and tbh they don't really worry me that much since they usually give you a funny look, then run away. They look so cuddly too. :wub:

You can also wear an Affliction tshirt. Nobody will mess with you because of how badass you are.



I live in a very nice area which is inside of the best part of Atlanta, and at least once a week someone is at minimum robbed and beaten a bit within ~10 miles of here. Like many nice areas, we have not so nice neighborhoods on one side and get thugs who walk through on their way to get who knows what, since the train station is over on that side.

Once or twice a month someone taken at gun/knife point at atms and forced to empty them, or forced to drive home to give up valuables - hopefully they're let go after that, but sometimes only the man is let out and they borrow the woman for a few days before hopefully releasing alive.

A couple times a year we have someone seriously brutally and needlessy murdered. The last one was a young woman on a walking trail ~5 miles outside of the city. A couple of kids drug her in the woods and raped her over a few hours before killing her. She fought back so hard (complete with pepper spray) that one of the kids had to be hospitalized due to his cheek getting pulled off his face.



You are absolutely naive if you think these things cannot happen to you. Sure the chances are low, particularly if you're male and don't have a woman with you, and stick to known 'safe' areas. FYI, often times even if you're paying attention you're in 'the hood' and you don't even know it.


FYI, the most brutal of crimes are generally not reported by your local newspapers or media unless the family speaks out.





Don't be a victim. Part of what makes these crimes so common nowadays is few are willing to protect themselves or fight back.

Also FYI, I grew up in the hood.. the real hood... and have seen numerous disgusting and terrible situations as I was growing up. It does happen, and there are tons of senseless crimes, murders, rapes, with no indication it was going to happen or forewarning.
 
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Squisher

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Yes, everybody should move to an area without crime.

I guess that should be, everybody that isn't a criminal should move to an area without crime.

This should make for a very interesting summer.
 

irishScott

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It has never happened to me or anyone I know so it's rare enough that I won't bother strapping a gun to my body every single time I leave the house.



What are the downsides? I would imagine the hassle of getting a CCW, choosing clothes that allow you to easily hide a gun must be a PITA too unless you're one of those tools who wears long pants in summer with a safari shirt and vest?

How about mistaken identity if you do actually ever need to draw your gun? Because Police have never shot and killed a CCW holder by accident I'm sure.

Then there's the whole FL thing with that Zimmerman guy, who is supposedly hispanic so he couldn't possible a racist, who shot that unarmed black kid.

Yeah, I can think of a whole lot of reasons to leave the guns at home actually...

For my part, a well-to-do guy I went to high school with had his apartment robbed, with him in it, and he was lucky to just be tied up at knife point. He was a student at UVA at the time. Pretty sure he felt perfectly safe keeping his door unlocked up until that point. I've reiterated my own near-miss experiences in previous CCW threads.

As for downsides, a Virginia permit is a little over $100 for an NRA basic class and then a $10 processing fee, $35 background check, and then $50 to the state every 5 years from then on out.

Choosing clothes? May be an issue for some, I carry a Sig P238 (small .380) in my right front pocket (pocket holster). Carries less obtrusively than my cell phone. For jogging I carry an even lighter Kel-Tec P-3AT in a clip-on IWB holster. Even if my shirt comes up (which doesn't happen often) the gun matches my running shorts and is seated so low that at a quick glance it just looks like part of my waistline. Rides comfortably too. I can use this setup with 98% of mens clothing.

Best thing is if for whatever reason I did want to upgrade to a larger gun, I already have a inch or two to spare in my current pants from where I lost weight. Don't see that happening any time soon though.

Mistaken identity: If the cops are around, I probably have no reason to draw and will most likely run while said cops do their jobs. Likewise I am neither equipped nor trained for an extended gun fight, so God forbid I do have to draw it will probably be up close, extremely violent, and over extremely quickly. Dealing with the cops will be after the fact, and I'll have more than enough time to unload my my gun and put in on the ground before they arrive.

Zimmerman is from all account an idiot and is irrelevant to this thread. Actually, if he did indeed murder that kid people like him are more of a reason to carry.
 
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umbrella39

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Are you a 100lb woman? Who would mug a reasonably fit man in broad daylight on a jogging trail? Who carries anything worth stealing when they jog?

I'm with the crowd who thinks you guys who carry all the time are a little kooky... and/or paranoid.

Stop that... I carry while I swim. At least 1 person a year is mugged in my area while swimming, can't have that happening...
 

Red Squirrel

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I live in a very nice area which is inside of the best part of Atlanta, and at least once a week someone is at minimum robbed and beaten a bit within ~10 miles of here. Like many nice areas, we have not so nice neighborhoods on one side and get thugs who walk through on their way to get who knows what, since the train station is over on that side.

Once or twice a month someone taken at gun/knife point at atms and forced to empty them, or forced to drive home to give up valuables - hopefully they're let go after that, but sometimes only the man is let out and they borrow the woman for a few days before hopefully releasing alive.

A couple times a year we have someone seriously brutally and needlessy murdered. The last one was a young woman on a walking trail ~5 miles outside of the city. A couple of kids drug her in the woods and raped her over a few hours before killing her. She fought back so hard (complete with pepper spray) that one of the kids had to be hospitalized due to his cheek getting pulled off his face.



You are absolutely naive if you think these things cannot happen to you. Sure the chances are low, particularly if you're male and don't have a woman with you, and stick to known 'safe' areas. FYI, often times even if you're paying attention you're in 'the hood' and you don't even know it.


FYI, the most brutal of crimes are generally not reported by your local newspapers or media unless the family speaks out.





Don't be a victim. Part of what makes these crimes so common nowadays is few are willing to protect themselves or fight back.

Also FYI, I grew up in the hood.. the real hood... and have seen numerous disgusting and terrible situations as I was growing up. It does happen, and there are tons of senseless crimes, murders, rapes, with no indication it was going to happen or forewarning.

lol if this stuff happens regularly you are not in a "nice area".

I cannot recall the last time there was an incident here where someone was randomly mugged or murdered or any random act of violence done on a random person. There is violence here to some extent but it's usually "inside". Ex: a few months ago there was a huge school fight between two high schools next to each other and people were sent to the hospital. These people were not going around mugging random people on the street, they were fighting each other. The police got there and it was the end of that.

And assuming a murderer also has a gun, what good with it do if I also have one when a bullet is on a direct path to my head from behind the bushes? When it comes to a gun fight, the person that shoots first is usually the winner. You can have the biggest gun in the world, if someone shoots you in the head you wont be taking it out to shoot the person back.

But yeah if the town is that bad, cover up your windows with checker steel plate, and buy a treadmill.
 

irishScott

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Oct 10, 2006
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lol if this stuff happens regularly you are not in a "nice area".

I cannot recall the last time there was an incident here where someone was randomly mugged or murdered or any random act of violence done on a random person. There is violence here to some extent but it's usually "inside". Ex: a few months ago there was a huge school fight between two high schools next to each other and people were sent to the hospital. These people were not going around mugging random people on the street, they were fighting each other. The police got there and it was the end of that.

And assuming a murderer also has a gun, what good with it do if I also have one when a bullet is on a direct path to my head from behind the bushes? When it comes to a gun fight, the person that shoots first is usually the winner. You can have the biggest gun in the world, if someone shoots you in the head you wont be taking it out to shoot the person back.

But yeah if the town is that bad, cover up your windows with checker steel plate, and buy a treadmill.

Canada is much more homogenous than the US. I see this with a lot of European posters as well. They simply don't understand the issues diversity creates. Most places in the US have ethnic minorities living on top of ethnic minorities living next to sub-cultures of the majority that influence the sub-cultures of the ethnic minority that cause a reaction from the majority that produces minority-majority violence. And other such situations. Simply put: with so many major differences between people of all classes it's bound to cause a higher rate of violence.

Would the Rodney King Riots have happened in Canada? Probably not. And the situation SpatiallyAware described (good neighborhoods still having the occasional brutal crime) is relatively common here in the US. I grew up in a nice area and it was normal, if tragic to hear about at least one murder a year within 10 miles of my house. This was in an area where the average income/household is $90k. If you see such a low crime rate as a reason to bar your windows and not go outside, America at large probably looks like a war zone to you. As he said, there are "nice areas" but they are usually immediately adjacent to not-so-nice areas, and spill-over happens. Detroit is a prime example of this. The only communities that have effectively zero crime are either heavily isolated or gated.
 

Red Squirrel

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Definitely does sound like a war zone to me. I'm glad I don't have to worry about my life being taken by some random person on an every day basis.
 

irishScott

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Definitely does sound like a war zone to me. I'm glad I don't have to worry about my life being taken by some random person on an every day basis.

Can't speak for everyone, but I don't and no one I know does. 1 murder per year out of a local population of 10s of thousands (within 10 miles anyway) are pretty low odds. I've never been in a fight that didn't include sparring gear, and for most of my life I didn't carry so much as a pocket knife and still felt perfectly safe. I'd say my first experience with spill-over was when I caught a (later confirmed) hispanic gangbanger looking in my car windows Junior year of high school. We noticed each other when we were about 20' away, and he gave me an eyes-wide death glare. Fortunately he walked away and drove off, at the time I had nothing. This was in broad daylight in a part of town I'd been frequenting my entire life without issue, cops said from my description it was probably part of a gang initiation. Spill-over.
 

Dr. Zaus

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It's not 'diversity' it's poverty; poor people of any color/ethnicity make poor neighbors.

We allow the poor to remain ignorant and hopeless: this leads to violence. Greater education and indoctrination in the concept of hope is the only real solution.

I grew up in a place that is top10 for poverty and poor education. It's 92% Hispanic and there is a statistically insignificant number of black people. Even middle class neighborhoods (lawyers, nurses, cops) frequently had shootings and drive-by.

The place has no "hope". Kids in the best school-districts are proud to say in school that their chosen carer path is drug-dealer.

There's one magnet school for science and engineering that covers a million people; it admits about 120 people a year. This is one of the top ten in Texas for decades running. There is no "loto" for entry because not enough people care about getting their kids out of ignorance.

The mental poverty of lacking hope => violence to solve your problems.
 
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Definitely does sound like a war zone to me. I'm glad I don't have to worry about my life being taken by some random person on an every day basis.



I don't have time to elaborate at the moment, but this is definitely not a concern for myself and probably not most people carry guns.


It equates to saying that because you have car insurance, that you must constantly worrying about someone stealing your car.
 
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