How do you carry a gun while jogging?

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alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Well, you're either paranoid or you live in a really shitty area. Most normal people don't feel the need to go around armed all the time.

Don't hate the messenger bro.

And don't get so angry. Take a stress pill or something.

Most people that don't live in BFE pretty much live only blocks away from some fucked up people. Outside that those same fucked up people tend to want to travel beyond a few blocks to get into better pickings.

I picture you as our token guy that runs shadow to shadow, rock to rock and then proclaims how free you are.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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I already have a p32, it's a .32 kel tec version of the LCP. I prefer my p238, and am willing to make sacrifices in order to carry it instead.

Good tip on the pepper spray, I've seen you recommend a particular type - I need to pick some up for my SO.

Ahh I am not familar with Kel Tec too much.

That is a small gun too and less than 10 ounces.

If you like Kel Tec this is an interesting article putting their P3AT vs the LCP
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-LCP.htm

I think LCP is better even though an ounce heavier.

The P238 is a one pound gun. That is a lot of weight to run with. My brother owns a P232, he carries everywhere. I am in the same line of work and thinking about adding a CZ P-01 to my daily carry.

Just yesterday walking my dog at an intersection in front of our middle school no less, some Camry with two 'hood' looking asshats in it hanging their arms out the side came up to a four way stop fast. A lady stopped ahead of them and was going to cross. They sped out and blocked her then started flapping their chicken wings at her and threw a can at her vehicle. Meanwhile everyone else was now stopped.

I asked "hey, what's wrong, you guy's break down?" They told me to FUCK OFF and started to get out of the car. I sent a stream of OC spray and they fled.

Today at a Wendy's some fat chick put her Explorer in park right in front of the drive in window then slowly walked inside to complain that her fries were not full, 'shit' was cold, and all sorts of other drama. I walked there.

I almost got hit crossing that same drive thru line as now everyone was getting out of it since it wasn't moving.

I was in line in at the counter when she finally made it in.

I told her "Hey, you know you are blocking the whole drive through, you can park right next to your truck?"

She told me "shut up bitch".

It escalated until she told me she was about to slap the shit out of me. I told her she better go and get a gun then.

Only one old lady in line (about 10 people) even commented. She said "YOU TOUCH THAT MAN AND YOU BETTER KILL ME, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!!!"

The freaking counter help just catered to her unfortunately. The first three replacements they brought she complained about and threw on the counter.

As she walked out she told me "I got you now!"

They waited in the parking lot and then as I was walking out threw a handful of chicken nuggets at me then blew a stop sign then a red light running.

These two incidents were 40 miles apart. Gotta love it here.

This is why I am seriously considering escalating my OC spray daily carry and a simple swiss army knife to OC spray, a simple swiss army knife, a tactical blade and a hand gun.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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One thing that everyone seems to be ignoring (surprisingly for a group of nerds) is women.

Everyone is talking about getting robbed. What about a woman being raped? Women are usually weaker than men and a woman jogging in a secluded area by herself seems like the perfect opportunity for a rapist.

hell here some lady went to sell her iPod at Lake Ida Park and got raped during the transaction.
 

JulesMaximus

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Jul 3, 2003
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Most people that don't live in BFE pretty much live only blocks away from some fucked up people. Outside that those same fucked up people tend to want to travel beyond a few blocks to get into better pickings.

I picture you as our token guy that runs shadow to shadow, rock to rock and then proclaims how free you are.

I'm not free. I live in America... land of the corporation and special interest.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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One thing that everyone seems to be ignoring (surprisingly for a group of nerds) is women.

Everyone is talking about getting robbed. What about a woman being raped? Women are usually weaker than men and a woman jogging in a secluded area by herself seems like the perfect opportunity for a rapist.

I'll give you that. If anyone in this society should be walking around armed it should be women.

I'm not surprised nobody mentioned it though. ATOT hates women.
 

Juked07

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Jul 22, 2008
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If you look well-to-do (ie: wearing expensive workout clothing or whatever), they might assume you've got something worth stealing. Also if you don't carry a key, do you just leave your doors unlocked or something?

One of my roommates is usually home, or if I have to leave my door unlocked, it's like one hour of vulnerability in a fairly high floor of a building with a doorman. It's not as ideal as having it locked, obviously, but I take the risk occasionally. If I get unlucky and someone takes my stuff.. it's just stuff. I'll live.
 

sourceninja

Diamond Member
Mar 8, 2005
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Ahh I am not familar with Kel Tec too much.

That is a small gun too and less than 10 ounces.

If you like Kel Tec this is an interesting article putting their P3AT vs the LCP
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-LCP.htm

I think LCP is better even though an ounce heavier.

The P238 is a one pound gun. That is a lot of weight to run with. My brother owns a P232, he carries everywhere. I am in the same line of work and thinking about adding a CZ P-01 to my daily carry.

Just yesterday walking my dog at an intersection in front of our middle school no less, some Camry with two 'hood' looking asshats in it hanging their arms out the side came up to a four way stop fast. A lady stopped ahead of them and was going to cross. They sped out and blocked her then started flapping their chicken wings at her and threw a can at her vehicle. Meanwhile everyone else was now stopped.

I asked "hey, what's wrong, you guy's break down?" They told me to FUCK OFF and started to get out of the car. I sent a stream of OC spray and they fled.

Today at a Wendy's some fat chick put her Explorer in park right in front of the drive in window then slowly walked inside to complain that her fries were not full, 'shit' was cold, and all sorts of other drama. I walked there.

I almost got hit crossing that same drive thru line as now everyone was getting out of it since it wasn't moving.

I was in line in at the counter when she finally made it in.

I told her "Hey, you know you are blocking the whole drive through, you can park right next to your truck?"

She told me "shut up bitch".

It escalated until she told me she was about to slap the shit out of me. I told her she better go and get a gun then.

Only one old lady in line (about 10 people) even commented. She said "YOU TOUCH THAT MAN AND YOU BETTER KILL ME, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!!!"

The freaking counter help just catered to her unfortunately. The first three replacements they brought she complained about and threw on the counter.

As she walked out she told me "I got you now!"

They waited in the parking lot and then as I was walking out threw a handful of chicken nuggets at me then blew a stop sign then a red light running.

These two incidents were 40 miles apart. Gotta love it here.

This is why I am seriously considering escalating my OC spray daily carry and a simple swiss army knife to OC spray, a simple swiss army knife, a tactical blade and a hand gun.


Seems to me you stick your head into other peoples business and invite trouble. One day trouble will find you. I carry a gun daily, if it's not directly effecting me, I'm just ignoring it and going on with my life. I know most people are douche bags, I don't feel the need to tell them.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Seems to me you stick your head into other peoples business and invite trouble. One day trouble will find you. I carry a gun daily, if it's not directly effecting me, I'm just ignoring it and going on with my life. I know most people are douche bags, I don't feel the need to tell them.

you can be a pussy then, I try and make a difference.

It used to be what I do was the norm.

Chances are you will never need your gun running shadow to shadow.
 

sourceninja

Diamond Member
Mar 8, 2005
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you can be a pussy then, I try and make a difference.

It used to be what I do was the norm.

Chances are you will never need your gun running shadow to shadow.

See the problem is, you think someone telling you to mind your own business is being agressive to you. The truth is you should mind your own business. One day you are going to hurt someone, and it will be your fault because you didn't mind your own business.

It will go down like this. There will be some robberies in your area and you will see a fat ugly lady, or a black teen, or some other "undesirable" walking through your street. You will decide to go tell them they don't belong there and follow them for a few blocks while notifying 911 there is a criminal in your area. Then even after being told to leave it to the police you will confront them where you will end up shooting them.

Then you will play the "but I was just doing what people used to do before you were all pussies" card and look like just another douche bag who isn't responsible enough to carry a gun and makes everyone else who carries a gun look bad.

The litmus test is simple: Is there a immediate life threatening situation that can't wait for police? If the answer is no, then keep your mouth shut, your gun holstered, and go eat your damn cheeseburger. People wouldn't be threatening to beat your ass if you were not injecting themselves into their lives in the first place (and being a douche).


*edit*

I realize I'm not taking my own advice here. I guess that makes me a hypocrite. Oh well.
 
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alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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See the problem is, you think someone telling you to mind your own business is being agressive to you. The truth is you should mind your own business. One day you are going to hurt someone, and it will be your fault because you didn't mind your own business.

It will go down like this. There will be some robberies in your area and you will see a fat ugly lady, or a black teen, or some other "undesirable" walking through your street. You will decide to go tell them they don't belong there and follow them for a few blocks while notifying 911 there is a criminal in your area. Then even after being told to leave it to the police you will confront them where you will end up shooting them.

Then you will play the "but I was just doing what people used to do before you were all pussies" card and look like just another douche bag who isn't responsible enough to carry a gun and makes everyone else who carries a gun look bad.

The litmus test is simple: Is there a immediate life threatening situation that can't wait for police? If the answer is no, then keep your mouth shut, your gun holstered, and go eat your damn cheeseburger. People wouldn't be threatening to beat your ass if you were not injecting themselves into their lives in the first place (and being a douche).


*edit*

I realize I'm not taking my own advice here. I guess that makes me a hypocrite. Oh well.

WTF are you talking about, I am not carrying a gun today.

Also I don't follow anyone. I will make my statement and if they don't like it and it warrants the police I will make that call.

Yesterday I was told by the lady she would slap the shit out of me. I was sort of hoping for that. It would have been a great lesson for her to be on video at that cashier assaulting a white guy for just telling her she was blocking the entire drive through lane.

I was not in the wrong with that comment. I didn't say it like a dick, just let her know.

She went off and created the drama.
 
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you can be a pussy then, I try and make a difference.

It used to be what I do was the norm.

Chances are you will never need your gun running shadow to shadow.




Huge +1... At some point during the degradation of society over the last 30 years, it became unacceptable to 'call out' an ignorant dumbass. Nowadays you're supposed to shy away in a corner and ignore them, which is essentially accepting their behavior.


I'm with alky on this one... Act like a rude dumbass, don't get surprised when you're treated like a rude dumbass.
 

SP33Demon

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Ahh I am not familar with Kel Tec too much.

That is a small gun too and less than 10 ounces.

If you like Kel Tec this is an interesting article putting their P3AT vs the LCP
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-LCP.htm
...

Kel-Tech makes some badass weps, I really like the sub-2000 (.40 version but heard the 9mm is fun too) tactical rifle that is only freaking 4oz (wife and kids can handle it in an emergency) and hits 2X as hard as any pistol/revolver. The kicker is that it's only around $300, has an extremely low rate of jamming, and the only complaint people had was the trigger but that is minor/picky stuff. Next I'm going to check out their "plastic" tactical short barrel shotgun for home defense.
 
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Kel-Tech makes some badass weps, I really like the sub-2000 (.40 version but heard the 9mm is fun too) tactical rifle that is only freaking 4oz (wife and kids can handle it in an emergency) and hits 2X as hard as any pistol/revolver. The kicker is that it's only around $300, has an extremely low rate of jamming, and the only complaint people had was the trigger but that is minor/picky stuff. Next I'm going to check out their "plastic" tactical short barrel shotgun for home defense.


I just don't like plastic guns, and really don't like double action setups. Metal guns feel much more natural and comfortable, and all of my practice has revolved around 1911-style safety mechanisms.

I like my p32 (.32 version of a p3at, identical in size and function to p3at and LCP), but the DA trigger is just unnatural to aim with. Also, while the sights are effective at most self-defense distances, they still suck and aren't night sights.

I equate the p3at/LCP almost to a revolver.. Something I would stick in my glovebox for a close encounter emergency, but not my personally preferred daily carry gun. But, everyone is different, some people love DA and plastic guns, and the lighter weight is a definite plus.
 

SP33Demon

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I just don't like plastic guns, and really don't like double action setups. Metal guns feel much more natural and comfortable, and all of my practice has revolved around 1911-style safety mechanisms.

I like my p32 (.32 version of a p3at, identical in size and function to p3at and LCP), but the DA trigger is just unnatural to aim with. Also, while the sights are effective at most self-defense distances, they still suck and aren't night sights.

I equate the p3at/LCP almost to a revolver.. Something I would stick in my glovebox for a close encounter emergency, but not my personally preferred daily carry gun. But, everyone is different, some people love DA and plastic guns, and the lighter weight is a definite plus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ4pCc_cP9A
Cool vid on the sub2k, for half the price of a glock@$300 that is an amazing wep.

I like metal as well, but weight is going to be an issue if you are taking it camping/ long hikes on vacation which is why I prefer plastic body when doing such activities. Carrying an AK or AR-15 would be cumbersome over a long hike.

Agree that I wouldn't have one as a personal carry gun, but one that you can stash in convenient places in the event of an emergency. I'd probably take it running with me too, but just for walking around I'd prefer a standard 1911 Kimber.
 

PhoKingGuy

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Huge +1... At some point during the degradation of society over the last 30 years, it became unacceptable to 'call out' an ignorant dumbass. Nowadays you're supposed to shy away in a corner and ignore them, which is essentially accepting their behavior.


I'm with alky on this one... Act like a rude dumbass, don't get surprised when you're treated like a rude dumbass.

Think of it as different cultural influences, most asians don't care about stuff like this and just ignore it and go about their own business. If you've been raised like that (or live in an area with a high propensity of asians) chances are you behave the similarly.

I think of it as picking and choosing my own battles, could I say something? Yeah, is it worth getting worked up over? Probably not, I have my own stuff to deal with. Let them make assholes of themselves.
 
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Think of it as different cultural influences, most asians don't care about stuff like this and just ignore it and go about their own business. If you've been raised like that (or live in an area with a high propensity of asians) chances are you behave the similarly.

I think of it as picking and choosing my own battles, could I say something? Yeah, is it worth getting worked up over? Probably not, I have my own stuff to deal with. Let them make assholes of themselves.


Right, and now we have a society where you're surrounded be people doing stupid crap 24/7. From driving, to walking, even down to dealing with picking up fast food.

Some cultures shun this behavior, ours seem to promote it.
 
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