How do you live on minimum wage?!

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junkyardDawg

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its been my experience that even a person with no skills will get a good raise over min wage quickly if he/she is dependable and is willing to WORK.
 

sharkeeper

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<< Last, but not least, DON'T START A FAMILY UNTIL YOU KNOW YOU CAN SUPPORT IT. >>



That's a cardinal rule...

Too bad so many young unresponsible people put the cart before the horse. Knock a girl up and worry who picks up the tab later. :|

I remember seeing a bumper sticker that read "DON'T QUIT YOUR JOB! MILLIONS ON WELFARE DEPEND ON YOU!"

Cheers!
 

Ornery

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Even the people that blew off getting educated can still make serious money, if they're willing to work a bit. How much education is required for the construction trades? Anyone with a work ethic can learn that trade from the ground up as a grunt or apprentice, and EARN good money in the process. You won't need too many labor hours under your belt to learn that trade and strike out on your own.

In other words, if you're willing to sweat and get dirt under your nails, there is plenty of work available that pays much more than the minimum AND has a future!
 

burnedout

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Even the people that blew off getting educated can still make serious money, if they're willing to work a bit. How much education is required for the construction trades?

I know this sort of refutes my earlier post about education, but here goes.........

My brother dropped out of high school during his senior year. I called him a dumb@ss back then. He had a shot at playing pro baseball, were it not for an arrest at the time.

Well, for 20 years, he's worked in the glass business down in FL. Home, commercial and automobile. Knows the trade inside and out. Was telling me the other night about an upcoming job installing bulletproof glass. He brings home about $5K per month. Almost $2K per month more than I.

Willing to work are the key words. Wanting to get ahead are others.
 

mithrandir2001

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I'll interject that I'll spend about $400 a month on food...that's just me by myself. It's not that I eat a lot, it's just that food is expensive...good food, that is. I have know idea how people can eat off of $100/month. Maybe if you eat crappy food you can get by (ramen for breakfast, lunch, dinner), but it isn't a long-term solution (unhealthy). I'll buy filet mignon @$11.99/pound every couple of weeks, fish @$8.99/pound weekly, pork tenderloin @$5.49/pound, porterhouse steak @$6.99/pound, fancy mushrooms @$4.99/pound, top-quality olive oil @$10/bottle...it all adds up. I just think food is one thing never to compromise on, but maybe I eat "gourmet" because I love to cook and I can afford it. And part of that $400/month figure is $150/month for lunches in the corporate cafeteria.
 

Ferocious

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Just imagine no Government protection of any kind. Oh wait....we already experienced that before.

It was during the mass exploitation of the rich and corporates for so many decades prior to the early 20th century. Or if you wish, it was before the birth of the middle class.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Something naive conservatives fail to understand time and time again. They seem to think that somehow that only applies to political power. Good grief, Rush and O'Reilly shouldn't be your only sources of history knowledge.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving!
 

Jzero

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<< I'll interject that I'll spend about $400 a month on food...that's just me by myself. It's not that I eat a lot, it's just that food is expensive...good food, that is. I have know idea how people can eat off of $100/month. Maybe if you eat crappy food you can get by (ramen for breakfast, lunch, dinner), but it isn't a long-term solution (unhealthy). I'll buy filet mignon @$11.99/pound every couple of weeks, fish @$8.99/pound weekly, pork tenderloin @$5.49/pound, porterhouse steak @$6.99/pound, fancy mushrooms @$4.99/pound, top-quality olive oil @$10/bottle...it all adds up. I just think food is one thing never to compromise on, but maybe I eat "gourmet" because I love to cook and I can afford it. And part of that $400/month figure is $150/month for lunches in the corporate cafeteria. >>



Uhh...you will die if you ever lose your current job, then. You'll have no place to cook your steaks if you're homeless fromm buying them.
First off, for lunch: Ditch eating out. My brother and I share lunch costs (we work together) and we get lunchmeats, cheese, bread, chips. Bread = $1, maybe $10 for meat/cheese/condiments, $3 chips. Lasts over a week. $40/month feeds 2!
Secondly, you can eat VERY well on a shoestring if you know what you're doing. Get an oil sprayer so you use very little of your precious olive oil.
Buy "lower-grade" steaks and learn to cut them properly.
Master the crock pot. $3 worth of chicken and a $3 can of curry sauce and a few cents worth of rice thrown in a crock pot feeds 2.
I love so-called "gourmet" food, but too many people think gourmet food comes from blowing your money on expensive ingredients.
 

Jingoro

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<< I'll interject that I'll spend about $400 a month on food...that's just me by myself. It's not that I eat a lot, it's just that food is expensive...good food, that is. I have know idea how people can eat off of $100/month. Maybe if you eat crappy food you can get by (ramen for breakfast, lunch, dinner), but it isn't a long-term solution (unhealthy). I'll buy filet mignon @$11.99/pound every couple of weeks, fish @$8.99/pound weekly, pork tenderloin @$5.49/pound, porterhouse steak @$6.99/pound, fancy mushrooms @$4.99/pound, top-quality olive oil @$10/bottle...it all adds up. I just think food is one thing never to compromise on, but maybe I eat "gourmet" because I love to cook and I can afford it. And part of that $400/month figure is $150/month for lunches in the corporate cafeteria. >>



I can't speak for everybody, but my bachelor friends and I simply can't (or don't want to) cook. So, we sustain ourselves with frozen dinners, cereal, salads, sandwiches, etc. If you be selective with your foods, you can eat VERY healthy and save lots of money. I eat only Healthy Choice or Lean Cuisine frozen dinners. Any deli meats I eat are all low fat... and I don't eat any junk food. My daily fat intake is only 20 grams, and I feel good with my health (it helps when you go to the gym regularly). And it only costs me $20/week for food... just buy the frozen dinners that are on sale, and use coupons! If you combine the those two saving tactics together, you can buy frozen dinners for around $1.25 each.

 

Amused

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<< Just imagine no Government protection of any kind. Oh wait....we already experienced that before.

It was during the mass exploitation of the rich and corporates for so many decades prior to the early 20th century. Or if you wish, it was before the birth of the middle class.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Something naive conservatives fail to understand time and time again. They seem to think that somehow that only applies to political power. Good grief, Rush and O'Reilly shouldn't be your only sources of history knowledge.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving!
>>



What's with the off topic rant? Sheesh. Just itching to spread your political agenda? Or are you just baiting?

I vote baiting, since no one bit on your first comment, you felt compelled to post it again.
 

ShadowHunter

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Actually, very few breadwinners in the family make minimum wage. The percentage is overwhelmingly teens and second incomes.

Editted for clarification
 

DonNiggera

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Ok, I was gone for a day, so I gotta answer to a lot of posts in this one...

A mobile home is a house on wheels, the whole house splits apart, transfer trucks take it to your land, the builders put the two pieces together, they take the wheels off, and vamoosh... You have a house. They're actually quite pretty, I was thinking of getting one for my home... But Rosewood homes look so much better, so I'm moving there.

Yes, I consider my self somewhere in the upper middle class. We have to pay for a machine shop to keep running too, which is quite a lot I might add.

I think middle class is from 80k a year, to 300k a year, ranging from low, middle, and high. Being rich is going farther up. Ofcourse, if you live by yourself making 300k/year, you can probably consider yourself very rich. But a family of four with "gimme this buy me that" It's a little bit different.

Where I live, no one even knows what public transportation is. You can call a taxi from Cornelia, but you have to wait for the 1932 yellow cab-over to arrive, and it costs $50 to take you to wal-mart. My friend brandon lives w/ seven people, none of which have a job. They live in a hovel, complete trash. But he is my best friend, he cares nothing about possessions, only the happiness of himself and his family. He found himself a beater car, it's a '89 tempo gl w/o a front bumper, huge dents all around. We just had to fix the transmition the other day too... His mother is complete trash, I hate to say that about my best friend's mother, but she is. The family layout is:
1st kid : Indian/mexican
2cd kid: Indian/American
3rd kid: American
4th kid: Mexican
5th kid: Mexican
Mother: Indian
Father: No where to be found

They live in a 3BR trailor, and live off social security, and a single pizza every night. You get two medium pizza's for $8 from papa's pizza. Brandon works at Zaxby's, and helps to pay for food. The 2cd kid, Chris, has Muscular Distrophy, and they don't have near enough money to pay for any sort of doctor bills. But they are all happy, nothing in the world bothers them.

I believe myself that everyone has a place in society. If we did not have tons of mexican's working the inane job's at places such as Scovill, a button manufacturer, or Zaxby's, then it would probably lead to our educated people being forced to work at such places, because the business could not hold itself up. A janitor is a very important person, many people just do not realize it. If there were no janitor's in the "Big man's business office" then it would never be clean. However, the big man business dude looks down upon them.

I ONLY look down to the sorry low-lifes, if they have a job, it's great. But if they are living off the taxes that I pay for my candy bars (heh, seeing I don't own a house or anything yet), then they are scum. I'm sorry to say that, but they are. If they have a medical problem that makes it so they can not get a job, that is fine though. But they should not sit and complain about anything, if they don't have a source of income.

I tend to look better to those with fancier houses, cars, and clothing. The first impression to me is always important, and 99% of the time, I'm right about what I think of people. Such as, I'll see David, and he drives a '79 cutlass, wheres ripped jeans, weighs roughly 280lbs, and never bathes, I'm 100% right that he is absolute scum. I've known the guy for quite a while, and he has not once proven himself otherwise.

I myself am thinking of getting an apartment, because I think it'd be cool to live in one, on something like the 30th floor or something. I wish to have either: A home in Rosewood, The Orchid, A "mobile home" (the homes I talked about earlier), or an apartment.

"Too bad so many young unresponsible people put the cart before the horse. Knock a girl up and worry who picks up the tab later. "
I utterly despise those types of people, and I will tell that to their faces.

"I'll interject that I'll spend about $400 a month on food...that's just me by myself. It's not that I eat a lot, it's just that food is expensive...good food, that is. "
Same here, I eat chinese sometimes even seven times a week I go in and I don't even have to order, they'll just bring my special ordered plate, and give me the bill.
 

Jingoro

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<< I think middle class is from 80k a year, to 300k a year, ranging from low, middle, and high. Being rich is going farther up. Ofcourse, if you live by yourself making 300k/year, you can probably consider yourself very rich. But a family of four with "gimme this buy me that" It's a little bit different.
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$80k a year is the beginning of middle class? In which part of the country? Are you talking about Canadian dollars?

Here's a table from the US Census Website. It lists the median household income of all 50 states. The median household income of the entire US is $42k. If $80k is the start of the middle class, you can consider the large majority of this country to be in the lower class
 

Amused

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<<

<< I think middle class is from 80k a year, to 300k a year, ranging from low, middle, and high. Being rich is going farther up. Ofcourse, if you live by yourself making 300k/year, you can probably consider yourself very rich. But a family of four with "gimme this buy me that" It's a little bit different.
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$80k a year is the beginning of middle class? In which part of the country? Are you talking about Canadian dollars?

Here's a table from the US Census Website. It lists the median household income of all 50 states. The median household income of the entire US is $42k. If $80k is the start of the middle class, you can consider the large majority of this country to be in the lower class
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Agreed. It depends on how many dependants one has, but generally lower middle class starts at between 35 and 40 grand a year. I'd say middle middle class starts at about 50 grand a year.
 

DonNiggera

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I was meaning for both wife and husband's income... 40k/ each is minimum wage.

Or am I still over exagerating?
 

Amused

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<< I was meaning for both wife and husband's income... 40k/ each is minimum wage.

Or am I still over exagerating?
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You mean middle class, not minimum wage. LOL

Anywho, yes, you're still exaggerating it a bit. 40K for two sharing living expenses still lower middle class.
 

Tominator

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<< Unchecked greed of the wealthy and corporates have always been the biggest enemies of the middle class in the USA History plainly shows this. >>



Acheivement has always been the enemy of Liberals/Socialists throughout time!
 

hans007

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200k is so rich. thats is crazy you can think that is middle class. i think my parents made around 150k before my mom lost her job. so we are living on only my dad's 100k. and its still ok. i mean, i've had these long discussions with people about how you could have a totally perfect life living on like 30 - 40k per person. like an american dream type life. my mom was like, we're middle class, and i'lm like you're crazy. i mean, we do work hard... i dont feel bad that we have more money, i mean i probably make more than that minimum wage job in a year.
 

AaronP

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ok, how many people outside of college students actually make "minimum wage." I mean, unless you're totally hopeless and can't hold a job down for more than a month, you get raises and stuff.
 

desy

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Very interesting thread.
You can't define what middle income is $$$ wise cause it varies greatly on what cost of living is in different regions.
A minimum wage is not a problem, unions are a problem if your worried about class struggle.
I had a high paying job and went on UI for a yr till I got another job and found out what you can live on.. Its simple reprioritizing, can you live with roomates can you live without a car can you live without a phone, all depends on what you place a priority on. Fortunatly my Bronco JUST got paid off so I owed the bank nothing. which made life a lot easier and still kept me mobile, BUT I did ride my bike more and walked more to save on gas. When I got employed again it was amazing how you redefined what you needed. I've kept a lot of those habits from those two lean yrs, even though now I'd be considered lower middle.
As my wage crept up again I got one raise that moved me from living cheque to cheque and able to have savings again, THATS when life began again.
 

Jingoro

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<< I was meaning for both wife and husband's income... 40k/ each is minimum wage.

Or am I still over exagerating?
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Yeah, I think you're still a bit high. And you have to remember that many households only have one breadwinner. And what about all the singles?

Here's some data straight from the US State Department... 26% of US households have only one person, while 53% have a traditional married couple. Of the married couple headed households, only 56.3% have BOTH parents working... meaning 43.7% do not. Add this with the non-traditional families (headed by a sole parent), and the majority of households in the US are surviving on only one income.
 
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