How do you think the i815 would perform after a some BIOS updates?!?!

[AngelOfDeath]

Isn't it possible that the i815 at some time in the near future would outperform the good and old 440BX??.

I mean was the 440BX so much better than the at the time older chipset (The LX I think...not sure )???.

Wasn't it the BIOS updates and other factors that made it that good as it is today or was it from the begining performance-winner???.

What do you think, and is it the upgrade worth???.

Any comment on sub will be nice .

AoD

 

[Mem]

I read somewhere the Abit SE6 with the latest BIOS update is nearly 10% faster, so I guess only time will tell,wait for the Asus CUSL2 to appear it`s suppose to be the fastest 815 board.

 

[LXi]

I think its worth it. I dont know why people are so disappointed by i815E, I think its a great chipset. It performs better than VIA AP133A, and it runs pretty close to BX's performance. Future revisions, BIOS updates, will surely help. You see, the older BX boards arent as good as the newer ones. Same thing, later i815E boards will be better as well.

 

[Mem]

AngelOfDeath,just think how many BIOS updates BX boards have had, I would like to see in 2 years time how fast 815 boards will be.

 

[AngelOfDeath]

<< AngelOfDeath,just think how many BIOS updates BX boards have had, I would like to see in 2 years time how fast 815 boards will be >>



This is exactly what I'm asking about...so still need an answer . I think it might be like this one way or the other, but would like to hear some comments on my Q

AoD

 

[AngelOfDeath]

BTW, anyone got good links to reviews of these bords???

 

[LXi]

Here is one, the Abit SE6 from HardOCP

http://www.hardocp.com/reviews/mainboards/abit/se6/index.html

And Tom's Hardware i815 round up

http://www.tomshardware.com/mainboard/00q3/000706/index.html

Im looking forward to Asus and MSI, 'cause they seem to be making the best i815Es in the bunch.

 

[Dug]

Why is everyone waiting for the Asus 815e? The Abit is out right now, it's rock solid, the performance is back up with BX after the bios update. Is there some test that somebody's done on the Asus that shows its superior?

Or are you waiting to see if they've made another P3V4X

 

[AndyHui]

ASUS has a better track record in terms of quality and stability than Abit does. That's why people are waiting for the ASUS i815E offering.

 

[PowerJoe]

My theory regarding the source of the BX's performance:

It's because it always runs its memory synchronously with the FSB, and the signal from the memory goes straight to the CPU without any delays. In the VIA Apollo133/A and the i815/E (and the i820, of course!), the memory signal needs to go through some reorganizing/buffer mechanism, in order to accommodate different FSB/RAM frequencies. I suspect it does so even when the FSB/RAM are running in sync.

Anyone care to comment?

-PJ

 

[plethora]

anyone wondering why i815 performs worse than BX may want to read this entire thread: http://arstechnica.infopop.net/OpenTopic/page?q=Y&amp;a=tpc&amp;s=50009562&amp;f=77909774&amp;m=231099151

 

[mschell]

Don't take the published benchmark results too seriously.
The real world performance differences between all the I815 boards are small. One would also have a tough time discerning differences using both a BX and a I815 board but the ICH2 controller equipped boards combined with a UDMA/100 capable drive like the IBM 75GXP series have noticeably faster disk operation.
Sharkys has just posted benchmarks showing the Asus CUSL2 bettering the P3B in Winstone test. Tom's comparison between four boards shows the ABIT SE6 running neck and neck with the CUSL2, the I815 boards are very stable meaning you can probably OC your present processor higher which will make up for any memory bandwidth deficiencies.
Just like the BX boards people have been using for quite some time now, pick the board you want to use for it's features or brand name, not because it scores slightly better on a benchmark. - M.

 

[12Guage]

I'm not so sure if the i815e will out perform the BX in the future.
When it was launched the BX did not perform that much better than the LX. Most of the games and benchmarks were running in L2 so the slower memory bus of the LX wasn't bottlenecking anything.

Today if you benchmark a 667EB against a 700E P3 on a BX, the 667EB wipes the floor with the 700E. The 700E may win in a synthetic test like SANDRA or Norton SI, but when you start benching games and real world apps the faster memory bus of the 667EB takes it over the top.

The difference between the evolution from LX to BX and BX to i815 is that we got a 60% faster memory bus going from LX to BX (66 mhz to 100 mhz). BX and Solano both support the same memory speeds. BX was a clear step up the evolutionary ladder from LX. i815 is sort of the duck billed platapus of motherboard evolution. Part BX part i810, integrated graphics and an AGP slot.

The real advantage the i815e has over the BX is AGP 4X, or more importantly the 1/2 AGP divider in the BIOS. Running a video card on an 89 mhz agp bus is the only thing stopping many people from getting a P3 EB for their BX board. You know you're not gonna be able to over clock your EB too much cuz your video card will limit how far you can go.

I think Solano (i815) is just a band aid solution Intel put forth to try to stop VIA from gaining more ground in the chipset market. Maybe a better question would be &quot;do you think VIA's chipsets will outperform the BX in the future&quot;.

We do need a 1/2 AGP divider to run at 133MHz and beyond, we don't need AGP 4X this year. I had high hopes for i815 too, but it's obvious that it was a half hearted effort from Intel. I'll stick with my Abit BE6-2 BX board thanks. It takes my P3 700E up to 917 with much stability, and my V5 5500 seems comfortable on a 131 mhz memory bus ( = 87 mhz AGP)

There's always i850 right?