Originally posted by: sxr7171
GTA3 crawls (7-11 fps) at 1024x1280 with 64 tap Anisotropic filtering on a GeForce 4 4400 overclocked to 305/650 and it will crawl on a GeForce 4600 as well. Playing on the Radeon 8500 looks absolutely terrible without enabling their "Smoothvision" with the Omega drivers (I didn't play with the Aniso settings since the drivers supposedly enable a higher quality level of Aniso than than possible using the ATI tool). The 8500 runs a pretty decent 30 fps without FSAA but suffers from annoying slow-downs when I enable 2x FSAA.
For some reason the GeForce 4 at 1280x1024 with no FSAA and only 16-tap aniso looks a lot better than the Radeon 8500 without FSAA and whatever maximum Aniso that Omega drivers enable.
The point of the above ramble is that we need faster cards.
That's true but it doesn't change the fact that other highly optimised games like JK2, RTCW, MOHAA and SOF2 are still very demanding on the system and need very fast video cards to run well at high detail levels. In fact SOF2 won't even run acceptably on a Ti4600 at 1600 x 1200 with no ansotropic filtering, often dipping to the low 30s in terms of framerates.GTA3 runs like crap because the game is programmed like a digital pile of crap
Originally posted by: BFG10K
That's true but it doesn't change the fact that other highly optimised games like JK2, RTCW, MOHAA and SOF2 are still very demanding on the system and need very fast video cards to run well at high detail levels. In fact SOF2 won't even run acceptably on a Ti4600 at 1600 x 1200 with no ansotropic filtering, often dipping to the low 30s in terms of framerates.GTA3 runs like crap because the game is programmed like a digital pile of crap
Not even thinking about future games like Unreal2 and Doom3, I have games right now waiting to take advantage of any extra power I can get above my Ti4600. I say bring on the R300 and NV30 and I'll be waiting with open arms for them.
Originally posted by: daywalker
Originally posted by: BFG10K
That's true but it doesn't change the fact that other highly optimised games like JK2, RTCW, MOHAA and SOF2 are still very demanding on the system and need very fast video cards to run well at high detail levels. In fact SOF2 won't even run acceptably on a Ti4600 at 1600 x 1200 with no ansotropic filtering, often dipping to the low 30s in terms of framerates.GTA3 runs like crap because the game is programmed like a digital pile of crap
Not even thinking about future games like Unreal2 and Doom3, I have games right now waiting to take advantage of any extra power I can get above my Ti4600. I say bring on the R300 and NV30 and I'll be waiting with open arms for them.
I dont think the games you mentioned are highly optimized. All these games run perfectly on my AMD Duron 1Ghz and my Geforce2 MX400, on their default settings of course.
If these games were highly demanding and optimized as you say, then they wouldnt run on my system at all. BTW, how can you say that JK2 is demanding??? The game has the lightest 3D engine ever made. It can run smoothly even in weaker systems that mine...
Its a mistake not to think about Unreal 2 and Doom3, as THESE are the games that ARE demanding. But they will be perfectly playable on your GF4 Ti4600 even with all the details turned on.
But still you plan to upgrade your video card, just because you want to play them on a 1600x1200 resolution with all the goodies turned on????
Something is definetely wrong with you... no offense.