How does gay marriage hurt you ?

polm

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I can respect the will of the majority, but NOT when it comes at a cost of civil rights to the minority.

Please, explain to me how gay marriage rights infringe on the rights of others ?

Because if it doesnt, and I firmly beleive this to be true, then there is absolutely no difference between a ban on gay marriage and a ban on inter-racial marriage.

For those of you opposed to gay marriage, are you opposed to inter-racial marriage ?
 

ntdz

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they don't hurt me. how does some inner city kid not having health insurance hurt you? It's the same thing.
 

polm

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Originally posted by: ntdz
they don't hurt me. how does some inner city kid not having health insurance hurt you? It's the same thing.

what kind of analogy is that ?

I'm not voting to ban healthcare for inner city youth.
 

wkabel23

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Originally posted by: polm
I can respect the will of the majority, but NOT when it comes at a cost of civil rights to the minority.

Please, explain to me how gay marriage rights infringe on the rights of others ?

Because if it doesnt, and I firmly beleive this to be true, then there is absolutely no difference between a ban on gay marriage and a ban on inter-racial marriage.

For those of you opposed to gay marriage, are you opposed to inter-racial marriage ?

Science will eventually put an end to this bigotry.

Just be patient, most people have irrational fear of something they don't understand.
 

Pepsei

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Originally posted by: ntdz
they don't hurt me. how does some inner city kid not having health insurance hurt you? It's the same thing.

I'd rather have some inner city kid get health insurance than gays getting married.
 

gutharius

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Originally posted by: ntdz
they don't hurt me. how does some inner city kid not having health insurance hurt you? It's the same thing.

Huh? How are those even remotely analogous?
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: Pepsei
Originally posted by: ntdz
they don't hurt me. how does some inner city kid not having health insurance hurt you? It's the same thing.

I'd rather have some inner city kid get health insurance than gays getting married.

Why? what do you stand to lose by allowing same sex couples to express their commitment to each other?

 

T2T III

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Gay marriage does not hurt me at all. In my state, it has not even come up for vote, so I can't even express my beliefs on this issue via voting.

 

PELarson

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Originally posted by: ntdz
they don't hurt me. how does some inner city kid not having health insurance hurt you? It's the same thing.

Well since we are paying, as in right nowm, through our medical insurance premiums for any medical care that a inner city kid has to have it does affect us.
 

StageLeft

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They don't, but people with no real moral compass in the first place like to feel better by limiting the freedoms of consenting and harmless adults.
 

polm

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Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Gay marriage does not hurt me at all. In my state, it has not even come up for vote, so I can't even express my beliefs on this issue via voting.

So you think it is fair that the majority of this country have voted to remove the rights of a group of minorities, even though granting them that right in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM infringes on the rights of the majority to life liberty and pursuit of happiness ?

You can have your opinion, and express it all you like, but please remember that , in the case of Gay Marriage rights, you would be denying a group of people the right to do something that DOES NOT AFFECT YOU !
 

conjur

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I just had a long debate with a buddy of mine. He's somewhat religious, far and away NOT a fundamentalist, but he did vote for the same-sex marriage ban here in KY. I boiled his argument down to this:

He's ok with civil unions but not with marriages.



That argument just doesn't make any sense. Atheists can get married. Sterile couples can get married. Mentally retarded people can get married. So why not consenting adults who happen to be gay?
 

imported_Snagle

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I am opposed to denying gays the same rights as heterosexuals have.

I (seriously) would LOVE to hear some rational arguments for why gay marriages should not be allowed. And by rational I dont mean

1. In the bible it says....
2. Well if we let gays get married, next people will want to marry there dog!
3. It's not natural!
4. It's not for reproduction!

etc etc

anyone, please?
 

Pepsei

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Pepsei
Originally posted by: ntdz
they don't hurt me. how does some inner city kid not having health insurance hurt you? It's the same thing.

I'd rather have some inner city kid get health insurance than gays getting married.

Why? what do you stand to lose by allowing same sex couples to express their commitment to each other?

Nothing, I was just making a choice, as if I had to make one. They can express their commitment to each other anyway they want, there are priests/rabbis out there that would marry them. It is not illegal really, you won't be arrested for having a gay marriage. I know people who did it.
 

Ulfwald

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Gay marriage hurts us all, by making us pay higher health insurance costs in group policies. Stats show that those involved in homosexual relationships are more likely to be sick, depressed, etc.
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: polm
Originally posted by: ntdz
they don't hurt me. how does some inner city kid not having health insurance hurt you? It's the same thing.

what kind of analogy is that ?

I'm not voting to ban healthcare for inner city youth.

Simple. You are for national healthcare, yet it probably won't even affect you. Why are you for it if it won't affect you?
 

wkabel23

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
They don't, but people with no real moral compass in the first place like to feel better by limiting the freedoms of consenting and harmless adults.

Well put.

:beer:
 

T2T III

Lifer
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Originally posted by: polm
Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Gay marriage does not hurt me at all. In my state, it has not even come up for vote, so I can't even express my beliefs on this issue via voting.

So you think it is fair that the majority of this country have voted to remove the rights of a group of minorities, even though granting them that right in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM infringes on the rights of the majority to life liberty and pursuit of happiness ?

You can have your opinion, and express it all you like, but please remember that , in the case of Gay Marriage rights, you would be denying a group of people the right to do something that DOES NOT AFFECT YOU !

Sadly, I think you've read too far into my post. Did I imply anywhere in my post that I would vote against gay marriages? No. I simply said that the option to vote for this has not come up in my state, so I have not had the option to decide my preference on such marriages.

:roll:

 

Pepsei

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Originally posted by: Ulfwald
Gay marriage hurts us all, by making us pay higher health insurance costs in group policies. Stats show that those involved in homosexual relationships are more likely to be sick, depressed, etc.

So's old people by that arguement, let's kill all the old people. If there are no benefits attached to gay marriage, would you be for it?
 

polm

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: polm
Originally posted by: ntdz
they don't hurt me. how does some inner city kid not having health insurance hurt you? It's the same thing.

what kind of analogy is that ?

I'm not voting to ban healthcare for inner city youth.

Simple. You are for national healthcare, yet it probably won't even affect you. Why are you for it if it won't affect you?

Totally different issue.

I am talking about DENYING someone their civil rights simply because of their sexual preference.

No matter how you want to put it, no matter how many baseless analgies you come up with , these 13 states have voted to pass a law of PURE DESCRIMINTION.

I am trully ashamed of my country for allowing this to happen.

I am embarrased for those of you who feel it is OK to force your will on others.
 

Tab

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Ulfwald
Gay marriage hurts us all, by making us pay higher health insurance costs in group policies. Stats show that those involved in homosexual relationships are more likely to be sick, depressed, etc.

Link to that statistics, in any event you're promoting co-habitation amoung gays which is already a invatation for disaster.
 
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