How does Window's Performance Scoring Work?

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Zap

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if ur final weighted score is over 7 show me...

One of the systems I'm working on at work gets 7.1. The lowest part is the CPU, heh. It is (until Monday) a stock clocked 920. Storage gets 7.3, IIRC. It is a simple RAID0 on the Intel ICH10R using two Patriot TorqX 128GB SSDs (Indilinx controller). Graphics are two GTX 295 in quad SLI so of course those were pegged.

Oh there's plenty of banging going on but that's of no interest on the forums!

Pics or... uh, nevermind. ^_^
 

zuffy

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uhhh no windows score is based on your lowest score.

so if ir hd limited like i am.. your score is whatever is lowest.

so a 7 is impossible unless u have both ssds and gpu.

show me you 7.1 on 1 gpu. id like to see that...


edit: wow... can u guys read what i said?? to get a final weighted score.
if ur final weighted score is over 7 show me...

the only systems i saw with a final score higher then 7 had what i explained.

I get a 7.3 overall on my i7-975. The GTX 275 is my weakest link. On my QX6700, I get a 6.7 overall because my GTS 8800 640MB is my weakest link. Both systems, gets a 7.7 for disk. See sig for the rest of the hardware.

 

Rubycon

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So this is the controller card + you've upgraded the RAM?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816151042


For someone who doesn't want to spend quite that much, what other Areca cards would be worth considering?

Let's say for maybe 2-4 SSDs in RAID-0?

The 1680ix-8 would be the same thing minus four channels. It's still fairly expensive. Slower IOP (controller processors) aren't recommended with arrays over two disks unless they are 64GB and smaller models. The 128GB drives run RAID internally and this is why their transfer rates are faster at the interface.

Also, Areca 6Gbps SAS hosts are on the horizon.
 

Kantastic

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uhhh no windows score is based on your lowest score.

so if ir hd limited like i am.. your score is whatever is lowest.

so a 7 is impossible unless u have both ssds and gpu.

show me you 7.1 on 1 gpu. id like to see that...


edit: wow... can u guys read what i said?? to get a final weighted score.
if ur final weighted score is over 7 show me...

the only systems i saw with a final score higher then 7 had what i explained.

Dude dont bother aiming for anything higher then 7.

To get higher then 7, you need an insane IO speed like Raided SSD's, and multi high end gpu's in scalable config.


Did you say that to get higher than a 7 you needed "an insane IO speed like Raided SSD's", and "multi high end gpu's in scalable config"?

Yes you did.

Did you learn logic in school? You know... converse, inverse, contrapositive, conjunction, disjunction, etc etc?
Go buy yourself a 5770 and check the rating for yourself, I have nothing to prove. If you pester me enough I might just go the extra mile and screenshot it for you.
 

aigomorla

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I get a 7.3 overall on my i7-975.



Okey u proved me wrong.

nice score btw.

Did you say that to get higher than a 7 you needed "an insane IO speed like Raided SSD's", and "multi high end gpu's in scalable config"?
.

And the guy above proved me wrong... however his hardware still falls in the insane category.
 
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jason166

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aigomorla, it's interesting to see that even the upcoming 6 core gulftown (which I'm assuming you have overclocked quite nicely) cannot score a 7.9 on the CPU section.

I would hypothesize that the rating formula is setup on an exponential curve so to get that extra .2 for we may need to double the horsepower.
This would also explain several anecdotes I've read where people upgraded components only to see very small or no visible gains in the performance index, since if you are near the top of the exponential curve it takes a lot more to get to the next .1 increment.

I did read somewhere in an interview with one of the developers of the new index that an 8 core system would be in the ballpark for a max CPU rating.

It should be possible to extrapolate the curve if we were to chart enough datapoints on a the same processor architecture.

Anyways, this is my first post here and the reason I've been drawn in from my normal lurking mode is to post another hard drive 7.9 score.

This system is not by any means a god box but was still able to achieve a 7.7 overall rating once the HD bottleneck is taken out of the picture.

System specs:
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i7 920 @ 4.0 Ghz with an Asetek LCLC cooler (upgraded radiator fans)
2x Intel X-25 M (G2) 80 GB SSDs in Raid 0 (Using Asus P6T motherboard's onboard SATA Raid)
ATI 5850 HD 1GB




Regards,
Jason
 

ilkhan

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I figured a dual X25-M G2 R0 setup would do it. My single X25-M G2 gets 7.7, so its pretty close.
I wonder if a >4Ghz gulftown would hit 7.9.

Also: share the wealth Rubycon. :/ (and what kind of ship?)
 

VirtualLarry

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It's more than worth it.

I got tired of it too and what I did when I wanted to OC was set up another system with the chip I was trying to oc running off a single HDD. Remember I get two of everything so this was easy to do.

So I'm not the only one that buys two of everything..
 

MrK6

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aigomorla, it's interesting to see that even the upcoming 6 core gulftown (which I'm assuming you have overclocked quite nicely) cannot score a 7.9 on the CPU section.

I would hypothesize that the rating formula is setup on an exponential curve so to get that extra .2 for we may need to double the horsepower.
This would also explain several anecdotes I've read where people upgraded components only to see very small or no visible gains in the performance index, since if you are near the top of the exponential curve it takes a lot more to get to the next .1 increment.

I did read somewhere in an interview with one of the developers of the new index that an 8 core system would be in the ballpark for a max CPU rating.

It should be possible to extrapolate the curve if we were to chart enough datapoints on a the same processor architecture.

Anyways, this is my first post here and the reason I've been drawn in from my normal lurking mode is to post another hard drive 7.9 score.

This system is not by any means a god box but was still able to achieve a 7.7 overall rating once the HD bottleneck is taken out of the picture.

System specs:
----------------
i7 920 @ 4.0 Ghz with an Asetek LCLC cooler (upgraded radiator fans)
2x Intel X-25 M (G2) 80 GB SSDs in Raid 0 (Using Asus P6T motherboard's onboard SATA Raid)
ATI 5850 HD 1GB

Regards,
Jason
Nice system, those are some insane speeds on your SSDs. I was looking at the Windows 7 rating system as well, because evidently my "bottleneck" is my CPU:

I'd guess it's because the i5 750 lacks hyperthreading. I'd have to say it's some sort of exponential curve as well.
 

Rubycon

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I figured a dual X25-M G2 R0 setup would do it. My single X25-M G2 gets 7.7, so its pretty close.
I wonder if a >4Ghz gulftown would hit 7.9.

Also: share the wealth Rubycon. :/ (and what kind of ship?)

I like to think of knowledge of being the best wealth one can build up. Unlike $ nobody can take it from you when you have acquired it.

I'm on a cruise ship.

And that's mostly why the reason why everything is given to me in pairs in case there is a problem. Sometimes turnaround can be a month or more. Imagine if you had a board go bad in a day and had to wait a month to get it replaced! Most of you would jump overboard!

Additionally looking at my crystalmark numbers in Windows 8 the index will probably go to 9.9 (hehe) and my array would not surprise me if it hit 9.9.

The number do appear stagnant. Like a CB'r that complains about a tight S meter, it just does not seem like it jumps very high in regards to substantial increases in system performance areas particularly in storage and cpu speed.

It's just a number that I see and go OK and that's it. Now if there was a dump file with real numbers (flops, gigatexels, memory latency, bandwidth, storage iops) you know the real ingredients instead of the gingerbread - perhaps it would be more interesting to look at.
 

Voo

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I like to think of knowledge of being the best wealth one can build up. Unlike $ nobody can take it from you when you have acquired it.
Could I sell you some knowledge about advanced maths, or some CS areas (what about ia32 ISA? I'd be glad to get rid of that), for one of your gulftowns and the trip with a cruise ship?

Not that I don't agree with you in theory (after all I learned that stuff^^), but saying something like that while playing with the newest tech and sitting on a ship is just.. argh ^^
 
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Rubycon

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Well people go on cruises and think it's heaven to work on a ship. Trust me it may sound like something you'd trade your right arm for but the reality is I do make a lot of sacrifices to have what I have and do what I do! I like to do it so I will continue this lifestyle!

I don't have a Gulftown CPU in my possession. A friend of mine ashore that does testing has a tray of 'em and who knows if I will get any. Most likely not because they are ES however I will get retail versions just like everyone else. Nothing is really unique with my setups in that regard.
 

kranky

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Whenever I see Rubycon posting about her equipment, I think of that classic Joker quote, "Where does [she] get those wonderful toys?"
 

Rubycon

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Whenever I see Rubycon posting about her equipment, I think of that classic Joker quote, "Where does [she] get those wonderful toys?"

What separates the barbies from the tom boys is the price of their toys! :hmm:
 

evolucion8

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It's odd Rubycon that your GTX 285 scores 7.4, I score 7.5 with my HD 4870 and 7.5 in everything except Hard Disk, my RAID 0 setup only scores 5.9 lolll
 

Rubycon

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It's odd Rubycon that your GTX 285 scores 7.4, I score 7.5 with my HD 4870 and 7.5 in everything except Hard Disk, my RAID 0 setup only scores 5.9 lolll

It was 6.8 pre 191.x drivers!

Actually that was a 295 (before I had the 285 in there). The 295 gets 7.8. Like I said no big deal Want a laugh look at the netbook scores!

One thing I wish would get faster is 2D. Using 2560x1600 on each monitor I find 2D is not as smooth as it should be! I'm talking about scrolling through complex pages, etc. I turn all windows animation OFF. I abhor that stuff only second to helicopters. D:
 

evolucion8

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I wanted to buy a Netbook but when I saw the Acer One performance, plus their battery life its quite short (Using Wi-Fi lasts less than 1 hour with their 3 cell battery). I just bought an used Latitude D610 which came with a Pentium M 730, 60GB HD, Radeon X300 64MB plus 1GB of RAM for less than 175 bucks. So I went to ebay and bought an used Pentium M 2GHz, another brand new 1GB kit, and a new battery, everything for less than $75.00 and I can do lots of stuff with no slowdowns, 2 hours battery life and even Aero works, I doubt that a netbook that powerful (Which doesn't exists) would be that cheap!!
 

Zap

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evolucion8, to each their own. Don't know why you think the Acer Aspire One has less than 1 hour battery life. With my 6 cell MSI Wind I regularly get 4.5-5 hours using WiFi. I just always remember to hit the hot-key combo to put it into low power mode. Even if I didn't, I would be getting 3.5-4 hours easy. The Acer should be getting around 2 hours.

Ahh well, netbooks aren't for everyone.
 

evolucion8

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Well, I used an Acer One (Blue Color) which comes with a 120GB hard drive, Windows XP, Wi-Fi, 3 cell battery and during Wi-Fi usage, it didn't reach the full hour of power, yours may last longer because of the bigger battery.

I'm happy with my Pentium M based laptop, it's capable to watch 720P 9MBps WMV files with no slowdowns, I have yet to try that with 1080P loll
 

n7

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The 1680ix-8 would be the same thing minus four channels. It's still fairly expensive. Slower IOP (controller processors) aren't recommended with arrays over two disks unless they are 64GB and smaller models. The 128GB drives run RAID internally and this is why their transfer rates are faster at the interface.

Also, Areca 6Gbps SAS hosts are on the horizon.

Thanx for the info, & especially the reminder i bolded.
 

lopri

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Mine. Just like many others HDDs are the lowest. I'm seriously considering an SSD for one of the most frequently used VMs.

 

DonnieT

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I have the radeon 5970, brand new computer, new drivers installed and i only score 6.0 in graphics and gaming graphics heh
 

DonnieT

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Guess it changes to whatever it wants every time i run it. I feel happier now at least.

 
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Voo

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Still rather strange that you don't get a 7.9 if I get a 7.5 with my 4870 512.. but who knows how they compute these numbers - it has its flaws.
 
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