How Expensive Do We Expect a 490 to Be?

[poofyhairguy]

So right now I have a 390x I am pretty happy with since I just game at 1080p. But I know sometime soon I want to upgrade because in new games my secondary 480 is closer to the 390X than to my liking. The trick is what to plan for.

I think the key for my decision is what price range the 490 will be. 1070 prices? That will be my card. 1080 prices? Eh.

I am super tempted because Newegg keeps having sub $250 Fury Non-Xs, which means you could get two and Crossfire them for less than a 1080 costs. I could also easily get a second 390x or a 480 and do the same thing too. But I don't want to deal with Crossfire issues if the 490 will be within what I feel is my affordable range for a GPU (basically sub $500).

I know we don't really know but anyone have a guess based on clues to prior evidence?

 

[Rifter]

I think we need to know what it is before we can guess what it will be priced at.

 

[ultima_trev]

If the R9 290X launch is anything to go by, Vega will probably perform closely to GTX 1080 but at prices in line with GTX 1070.

If the Fury X launch is anything to go by, it will be slightly slower than GTX 1080 but at the same price.

Hopefully they learned their mistake with the latter scenario.

 

[Ancalagon44]

I have a feeling it will be $550

 

[Krteq]

$600, I guess.

 

[swilli89]

Trying to guess price before we know performance is a futile enterprise. If its ~1080 performance then I predict $499.

 

[rainy]

550-600 dollars sounds reasonable to me if we will skip possibility that 490 on improved drivers is 10-15 percent faster than GTX 1080 - on such scenario 600-700 dollars.

 

[Mercennarius]

If you use the mid range card (RX480) as a benchmark then you get an idea that the 490 will likely be cheaper than previous AMD flagships. When the 280X launched it was $300 and $250 less than the 290X. Making the 290X 183% higher than the mid range card at the time. If we do the same conversion from a percent approach that puts the 490 at $366 (183% of RX 480 base launch price). If we do it from a pure dollar increase we get a 490 price of $450 ($250+RX 480 base price).

Compared to the 290X competitor in its time the 780 Ti ($699) the 290X was $150 less ($549). The 1080 is the same launch price the 780 Ti was so using this approach the 490 would launch at $549.

Averaging the three approaches ($366, $450, $549) you get a price of $455 which I feel is pretty realistic given what we know. So i'm projecting a launch price of $449.

 

[poofyhairguy]

If you use the mid range card (RX480) as a benchmark then you get an idea that the 490 will likely be cheaper than previous AMD flagships. When the 280X launched it was $300 and $250 less than the 290X. Making the 290X 183% higher than the mid range card at the time. If we do the same conversion from a percent approach that puts the 490 at $366 (183% of RX 480 base launch price). If we do it from a pure dollar increase we get a 490 price of $450 ($250+RX 480 base price).

Compared to the 290X competitor in its time the 780 Ti ($699) the 290X was $150 less ($549). The 1080 is the same launch price the 780 Ti was so using this approach the 490 would launch at $549.

Averaging the three approaches ($366, $450, $549) you get a price of $455 which I feel is pretty realistic given what we know. So i'm projecting a launch price of $449.

Good guess based on data and you gave me an answer I wanted, so I like this post.

 

[thesmokingman]

I have a feeling it will be $550

Lower even. Stock is really high right now, past two months stock. No one is buying anything unless its a super deal so they'd have to undercut the competition to spur buyers on imo.

 

[Headfoot]

If you use the mid range card (RX480) as a benchmark then you get an idea that the 490 will likely be cheaper than previous AMD flagships. When the 280X launched it was $300 and $250 less than the 290X. Making the 290X 183% higher than the mid range card at the time. If we do the same conversion from a percent approach that puts the 490 at $366 (183% of RX 480 base launch price). If we do it from a pure dollar increase we get a 490 price of $450 ($250+RX 480 base price).

Compared to the 290X competitor in its time the 780 Ti ($699) the 290X was $150 less ($549). The 1080 is the same launch price the 780 Ti was so using this approach the 490 would launch at $549.

Averaging the three approaches ($366, $450, $549) you get a price of $455 which I feel is pretty realistic given what we know. So i'm projecting a launch price of $449.

Nice analysis, given the assumptions we all have to make based on the low amount of performance data on Vega, this seems imminently reasonable.

 

[crisium]

It depends on how it competes with the 1070 / 1080. Mercennarius has a good analysis but it's dependent on the old relationships.

We can't use old x80 to x90 to GTX x70 relationships.

 

[Yakk]

Based on past pricing and current market conditions (glut in sales channel) I'll say $500 USD up to $550-575 if AMD allows AIB custom versions. I'd much prefer it lower, but that looks like sweetspot pricing for profit vs. selling volume. Any higher is abusive nvidia territory which AMD could enter if performance is there, but I doubt they world, even if they could.

 

[Jessy]

Considering that this benchmarks shows Vega at an average of 66 FPS,

http://videocardz.com/64706/amd-vega-doom-4kultra-gaming-performance-demo-possible-specs

When the Fury X already does 55 in the same conditions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCHmV3c7H1Q

I'd say sub 500$ for sure.

 

[Mercennarius]

Having a mid range card at $199 and the next higher card over $500 leaves a $300+ delta and quite frankly where much of the consumer market is. That would not be wise. The 490 we have seen leak is not going to be priced at 1080 levels, it will be at 1070 levels. AMD knows that's where the meat of the market is, especially when most of their consumers buy them for a price/performance reason.

 

[unseenmorbidity]

550-600 dollars sounds reasonable to me if we will skip possibility that 490 on improved drivers is 10-15 percent faster than GTX 1080 - on such scenario 600-700 dollars.

Wait, why is everyone assuming the 490 is the flagship!? Vega will likely have at least 3 cards, and the 490 will be the smallest of the bunch. It's competing with the 1070.

 

[flopper]

Considering that this benchmarks shows Vega at an average of 66 FPS,

http://videocardz.com/64706/amd-vega-doom-4kultra-gaming-performance-demo-possible-specs

When the Fury X already does 55 in the same conditions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCHmV3c7H1Q

I'd say sub 500$ for sure.

Failed logic, drivers used was from Fury due to vega is 4 weeks old and drivers not up for it.
so a new tech arc then improvements can be 20% or more along the way.
final performance for shop cant be judged yet.
same prices or more than the 1080 wouldn't be out of it.
AMD is back and so price points will be higher.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Wait, why is everyone assuming the 490 is the flagship!? Vega will likely have at least 3 cards, and the 490 will be the smallest of the bunch. It's competing with the 1070.

At the pace AMD is releasing cards it will be the flagship for most of 2017.