Well i purchases a 6 pack of CF bulbs about 18 months ago. 3 are already dead. Not sure I will get those again.
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I haven't changed much. Deepened my values and beliefs in certain areas and moderated in some others. Nothing changed too much though. I have taken on new areas of debate though where I just took my position for granted before. I've definitely "greened" a bit more as I've gained knowledge in energy and other "green" areas. I've stated here before that I think I'm probably the most "green" "right-winger" I've ever met. You won't get me to bend on "global warming" yet because there are just too many unknowns - yet I advocate responsible use of resources and forward looking policies/practices.
CsG
No way - I'm more of a green right-wing hippie than you are!
examples:
- I eat organic mostly. I eat sprouted wheat bread - beat that!
- I have all flourescent bulbs in the house, with a few rare exceptions (can't find the little tiny ceiling fan ones)
- My wife had a home birth, my kids wore cloth diapers, and were breast fed till they quit
- Very conservationist/anti-pollution
etc.
Aha! I have florescent tiny ceiling fan bulbs! Me=teh winnar!
Oh, and you aren't a "right-winger" anyway- you're just a recent convert who has carried over some "hippie-ness"
Pssttt - get some
CsG
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I haven't changed much. Deepened my values and beliefs in certain areas and moderated in some others. Nothing changed too much though. I have taken on new areas of debate though where I just took my position for granted before. I've definitely "greened" a bit more as I've gained knowledge in energy and other "green" areas. I've stated here before that I think I'm probably the most "green" "right-winger" I've ever met. You won't get me to bend on "global warming" yet because there are just too many unknowns - yet I advocate responsible use of resources and forward looking policies/practices.
CsG
No way - I'm more of a green right-wing hippie than you are!
examples:
- I eat organic mostly. I eat sprouted wheat bread - beat that!
- I have all flourescent bulbs in the house, with a few rare exceptions (can't find the little tiny ceiling fan ones)
- My wife had a home birth, my kids wore cloth diapers, and were breast fed till they quit
- Very conservationist/anti-pollution
etc.
Aha! I have florescent tiny ceiling fan bulbs! Me=teh winnar!
Oh, and you aren't a "right-winger" anyway- you're just a recent convert who has carried over some "hippie-ness"
Pssttt - get some
CsG
Well i purchases a 6 pack of CF bulbs about 18 months ago. 3 are already dead. Not sure I will get those again.
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I haven't changed much. Deepened my values and beliefs in certain areas and moderated in some others. Nothing changed too much though. I have taken on new areas of debate though where I just took my position for granted before. I've definitely "greened" a bit more as I've gained knowledge in energy and other "green" areas. I've stated here before that I think I'm probably the most "green" "right-winger" I've ever met. You won't get me to bend on "global warming" yet because there are just too many unknowns - yet I advocate responsible use of resources and forward looking policies/practices.
CsG
No way - I'm more of a green right-wing hippie than you are!
examples:
- I eat organic mostly. I eat sprouted wheat bread - beat that!
- I have all flourescent bulbs in the house, with a few rare exceptions (can't find the little tiny ceiling fan ones)
- My wife had a home birth, my kids wore cloth diapers, and were breast fed till they quit
- Very conservationist/anti-pollution
etc.
Aha! I have florescent tiny ceiling fan bulbs! Me=teh winnar!
Oh, and you aren't a "right-winger" anyway- you're just a recent convert who has carried over some "hippie-ness"
Pssttt - get some
CsG
Well i purchases a 6 pack of CF bulbs about 18 months ago. 3 are already dead. Not sure I will get those again.
Did you buy the cheap knock-off ones? I didn't seem to have very good luck with the cheap ones I purchased either. I think this is one area that price is a good indicator of quality(in my experience anyway) as the ones I've purchased since have been going strong - plus they have a guarantee
CsG
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I haven't changed much. Deepened my values and beliefs in certain areas and moderated in some others. Nothing changed too much though. I have taken on new areas of debate though where I just took my position for granted before. I've definitely "greened" a bit more as I've gained knowledge in energy and other "green" areas. I've stated here before that I think I'm probably the most "green" "right-winger" I've ever met. You won't get me to bend on "global warming" yet because there are just too many unknowns - yet I advocate responsible use of resources and forward looking policies/practices.
CsG
No way - I'm more of a green right-wing hippie than you are!
examples:
- I eat organic mostly. I eat sprouted wheat bread - beat that!
- I have all flourescent bulbs in the house, with a few rare exceptions (can't find the little tiny ceiling fan ones)
- My wife had a home birth, my kids wore cloth diapers, and were breast fed till they quit
- Very conservationist/anti-pollution
etc.
Aha! I have florescent tiny ceiling fan bulbs! Me=teh winnar!
Oh, and you aren't a "right-winger" anyway- you're just a recent convert who has carried over some "hippie-ness"
Pssttt - get some
CsG
Well i purchases a 6 pack of CF bulbs about 18 months ago. 3 are already dead. Not sure I will get those again.
Did you buy the cheap knock-off ones? I didn't seem to have very good luck with the cheap ones I purchased either. I think this is one area that price is a good indicator of quality(in my experience anyway) as the ones I've purchased since have been going strong - plus they have a guarantee
CsG
They were the house brand at costco and they had a guarantee, but that got tossed in the trash. Sam's stocks the GE CF bulbs, maybe I should give those a try.
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I haven't changed much. Deepened my values and beliefs in certain areas and moderated in some others. Nothing changed too much though. I have taken on new areas of debate though where I just took my position for granted before. I've definitely "greened" a bit more as I've gained knowledge in energy and other "green" areas. I've stated here before that I think I'm probably the most "green" "right-winger" I've ever met. You won't get me to bend on "global warming" yet because there are just too many unknowns - yet I advocate responsible use of resources and forward looking policies/practices.
CsG
No way - I'm more of a green right-wing hippie than you are!
examples:
- I eat organic mostly. I eat sprouted wheat bread - beat that!
- I have all flourescent bulbs in the house, with a few rare exceptions (can't find the little tiny ceiling fan ones)
- My wife had a home birth, my kids wore cloth diapers, and were breast fed till they quit
- Very conservationist/anti-pollution
etc.
Aha! I have florescent tiny ceiling fan bulbs! Me=teh winnar!
Oh, and you aren't a "right-winger" anyway- you're just a recent convert who has carried over some "hippie-ness"
Pssttt - get some
CsG
Well i purchases a 6 pack of CF bulbs about 18 months ago. 3 are already dead. Not sure I will get those again.
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I haven't changed much. Deepened my values and beliefs in certain areas and moderated in some others. Nothing changed too much though. I have taken on new areas of debate though where I just took my position for granted before. I've definitely "greened" a bit more as I've gained knowledge in energy and other "green" areas. I've stated here before that I think I'm probably the most "green" "right-winger" I've ever met. You won't get me to bend on "global warming" yet because there are just too many unknowns - yet I advocate responsible use of resources and forward looking policies/practices.
CsG
No way - I'm more of a green right-wing hippie than you are!
examples:
- I eat organic mostly. I eat sprouted wheat bread - beat that!
- I have all flourescent bulbs in the house, with a few rare exceptions (can't find the little tiny ceiling fan ones)
- My wife had a home birth, my kids wore cloth diapers, and were breast fed till they quit
- Very conservationist/anti-pollution
etc.
Aha! I have florescent tiny ceiling fan bulbs! Me=teh winnar!
Oh, and you aren't a "right-winger" anyway- you're just a recent convert who has carried over some "hippie-ness"
Pssttt - get some
CsG
Well i purchases a 6 pack of CF bulbs about 18 months ago. 3 are already dead. Not sure I will get those again.
I have 23 of those in use in my house and 8 new ones in the closet!
I've had the cheap ones burn out as well. The GE ones seem to be the best. The "Lights of America" (how ironic) burn out at a fast, cheap pace! :Q
I know! If they only spent as much time trying to save the environment as they do picking out lightbulbs! Damn, think of the possibilities!Originally posted by: Stunt
That's it, change thread topic to "conservatives transforming into hippies"
Originally posted by: magomago
A lot more liberal. In 2000 I was pro Bush, anti Abortion, anti gay, but foreign policy i was very dovish and thought we should be isolationist.
Now I'm anti-Bush (more libertarian), I would vote against any kind of thing to deny homosexuals rights (although I still beleive it is wrong, but that is their choice and not mine), abortion is the choice of a woman (although I think guys should get more say and pesronally if i impregnated a lady I would NOT want her to get an abortion)...and I'm more realistic about foreign policy, but i don't like our "super power i do what i want" stance
I think it is for the better though
I use to believe that people like you were just the figment of someones imagination.Originally posted by: MajorCaliber
Yes, I used to feel that Democrats were wrong, but were really decent people. Now I think Democrats are Pure Evil, with no redeeming qualities.
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I use to believe that people like you were just the figment of someones imagination.Originally posted by: MajorCaliber
Yes, I used to feel that Democrats were wrong, but were really decent people. Now I think Democrats are Pure Evil, with no redeeming qualities.
Originally posted by: conjur
I definitely am no longer a Bush-God fanboi. I was very much one a couple of years ago. I've also become more and more anti-war. Some take that as meaning I'm now a liberal which is far from the case. It just means I am not for a war that cannot be justified due to us having been attacked or stopping someone hell-bent on domination (Hitler, for example.)
I've also become more cognizant that our media is very inept and is becoming more and more a tool of the right-wing side of politics.
Originally posted by: Stunt
Define right: right fiscally, right on foriegn policy, right socially...there's a lot of rights, and most of them contradict each other...Originally posted by: spidey07
if anything I've gone farther to the right after reading posts here.
large foriegn policy = money spent abroad not on reducing gov't/taxes
hard line on drugs/abortion/crimes = more lawsuits, more illegal operations and drugs, more money on anti-drug campaigns (big gov't)
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I haven't changed much. Deepened my values and beliefs in certain areas and moderated in some others. Nothing changed too much though. I have taken on new areas of debate though where I just took my position for granted before. I've definitely "greened" a bit more as I've gained knowledge in energy and other "green" areas. I've stated here before that I think I'm probably the most "green" "right-winger" I've ever met. You won't get me to bend on "global warming" yet because there are just too many unknowns - yet I advocate responsible use of resources and forward looking policies/practices.
CsG
No way - I'm more of a green right-wing hippie than you are!
examples:
- I eat organic mostly. I eat sprouted wheat bread - beat that!
- I have all flourescent bulbs in the house, with a few rare exceptions (can't find the little tiny ceiling fan ones)
- My wife had a home birth, my kids wore cloth diapers, and were breast fed till they quit
- Very conservationist/anti-pollution
etc.
Aha! I have florescent tiny ceiling fan bulbs! Me=teh winnar!
Oh, and you aren't a "right-winger" anyway- you're just a recent convert who has carried over some "hippie-ness"
Pssttt - get some
CsG
Well i purchases a 6 pack of CF bulbs about 18 months ago. 3 are already dead. Not sure I will get those again.
Did you buy the cheap knock-off ones? I didn't seem to have very good luck with the cheap ones I purchased either. I think this is one area that price is a good indicator of quality(in my experience anyway) as the ones I've purchased since have been going strong - plus they have a guarantee
CsG
They were the house brand at costco and they had a guarantee, but that got tossed in the trash. Sam's stocks the GE CF bulbs, maybe I should give those a try.
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Stunt
I respect the ppl on this forum who supported the war and now feel as though they were misguided realizing it was expensive and on false justifications (wmd) but continue with their hopes for the nation they supported an attack on.Originally posted by: raildogg
I was against the Iraq war, but after really thinking about it, now I'm for it.
But why in the hell are you supporting it now?!...it's costing $200,000,000,000+ and why not invade the other 50+ countries with dictators and few freedoms and rights?
Listen to what Joseph Lieberman has to say, the man who stands alone in the demican party. This guy is one of the few sane democrats left and is honest as politicians come. He was for the war and still is.
Freedom has no costs. Our long term interests have no costs. Iraq was unique, our intelligence had stated for many years that Saddam continues to pursue WMD's and has many stockpiles. Clinton even said so.
A free Iraq is in our interests for our long term goals, maybe for the short term it isn't so sweet. Look what we have now: A Iraq where elections were held, pretty soon they'll elect a leader. This is the foundation of a democracy. A democracy in the mideast and the first democracy among the Arab nations.
When they other people look at Iraq, they'll want democracy and freedom too. The naysayers don't care about this, all they want to do is bring Bush down.
And lastly, the children who were imprisoned are free. The rape rooms are empty. The evil sons of Saddam are dead.
According to a lot of analysts and me included, the WMD's were moved to Syria just prior to the invasion. We'll just have to topple Syria to make sure if they went there. Remember, its going to take 1 minute to completely destroy the Syrian military but we'll never achieve peace there.
We have Iran surrounded. Elections in Afghanistan for the first time, elections in Iraq for the first time. Great job Mr. Bush.