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AdamK47

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
15,322
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We need to get to the bottom of why Zeze disassociates himself with his Korean attributes and instead attempts to align himself to the caucasian race. He could have easily posted a random Korean mans photo. There's some deep hidden repression here that needs to be brought out and discussed.

This is important stuff.
 
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Zeze

Lifer
Mar 4, 2011
11,210
1,080
126
We need to get to the bottom of why Zeze disassociates himself with his Korean attributes and instead attempts to align himself to the caucasian race. He could have easily posted a random Korean mans photo. There's some deep hidden repression here that needs to be brought out and discussed.

This is important stuff.
Cuckoo
 

feralkid

Lifer
Jan 28, 2002
16,577
4,659
136
We need to get to the bottom of why Zeze disassociates himself with his Korean attributes and instead attempts to align himself to the caucasian race. He could have easily posted a random Korean mans photo. There's some deep hidden repression here that needs to be brought out and discussed.

This is important stuff.


So...you thought Zeze was Tommy Lee Jones, or Sheriff Bell?
 

Zeze

Lifer
Mar 4, 2011
11,210
1,080
126
Pay attention what AdamK47 is writing. He's little bit off. And that's not an insult.
 

Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Feb 14, 2004
48,518
5,340
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It's all about the price your skills command on the market. NOt how much exertion or time you expend.

That's exactly the real key right there. The world will pay you what it thinks you're worth. That does not correlate to actual production work in terms of physical labor, mental effort, or time spent. The proper evolution of payment-driven thinking should go like this:

1. Work harder
2. Work smarter, not harder
3. Pick the job that pays ridiculously well, which doesn't necessarily correlate to a long workweek or mental/physical effort because that's simply not how the economy really, actually functions

The American way is to get out there & work hard. The Asian way is the "go to school to get good grades to become doctor" meme. The actual marketplace way is to find jobs that pay really well without necessarily needing to be a skilled craftsman, a hard laborer, a PhD, etc. - being a manager, for example. The management of labor has historically been where the "easy" money is - you hire the skilled labor, which does all the work, while having just enough knowledge to direct it. And the money gets better the higher up the ladder...the top-paid CEO's typically get between $20 to $100 million annually and they get to fly around on jets and play golf a lot.

The thing to keep in mind is that money isn't everything, unless that is everything for your personal goals. Like, I make a pretty decent living working in freelance IT in general hardware & software, but I could easily make twice as much if I gave it up & settled into another IT-related job, but loving what I do is a really big factor for job happiness for me, in addition to having enough to live on & enough to buy a few toys here & there, and this job brings me a great deal of satisfaction while also letting me get stuff like a Nintendo here & there.

I basically get paid to play with computer toys & set them up perfectly for different people & companies, which is an awful lot of fun for me. I also get to travel around my state, so it's new projects, new people, and new places on a regular basis. Even though I wouldn't consider myself rich, I am comfortable & I get to do something that I really enjoy doing, and I consider myself extremely fortunate for being in that position because I've had a lot of crappy jobs in the past that did NOT pay well and were not enjoyable, haha. And I know that there are a lot of people who feel stuck in similar positions & aren't necessarily able to extract themselves from those situations for a variety of reasons.

But looping back to the OP, yup, the higher up the food chain you go, the more money you make & the less you have to hustle. My various crappy minimum-wage jobs back in college were often very stressful & required a lot of work for virtually no money. At one point I had three jobs...it was highly motivating to finish college & get my degree so that I could graduate to a better working environment, haha. Now I have actual free time & I'm not just scraping by financially. So yeah, the phenomenon that you're experiencing is real, and we are fortunate to have it because a lot of people out there aren't so lucky.
 

AdamK47

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
15,322
2,928
126
Now is not the time to get back on topic and be serious on the Internet with a Zeze thread. There are other important matters to discuss here.
 

Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Feb 14, 2004
48,518
5,340
136
Now is not the time to get back on topic and be serious on the Internet with a Zeze thread. There are other important matters to discuss here.

Wait, that's not in my contract...
 

DietDrThunder

Platinum Member
Apr 6, 2001
2,262
326
126
That's exactly the real key right there. The world will pay you what it thinks you're worth. That does not correlate to actual production work in terms of physical labor, mental effort, or time spent. The proper evolution of payment-driven thinking should go like this:

1. Work harder
2. Work smarter, not harder
3. Pick the job that pays ridiculously well, which doesn't necessarily correlate to a long workweek or mental/physical effort because that's simply not how the economy really, actually functions

The American way is to get out there & work hard. The Asian way is the "go to school to get good grades to become doctor" meme. The actual marketplace way is to find jobs that pay really well without necessarily needing to be a skilled craftsman, a hard laborer, a PhD, etc. - being a manager, for example. The management of labor has historically been where the "easy" money is - you hire the skilled labor, which does all the work, while having just enough knowledge to direct it. And the money gets better the higher up the ladder...the top-paid CEO's typically get between $20 to $100 million annually and they get to fly around on jets and play golf a lot.

The thing to keep in mind is that money isn't everything, unless that is everything for your personal goals. Like, I make a pretty decent living working in freelance IT in general hardware & software, but I could easily make twice as much if I gave it up & settled into another IT-related job, but loving what I do is a really big factor for job happiness for me, in addition to having enough to live on & enough to buy a few toys here & there, and this job brings me a great deal of satisfaction while also letting me get stuff like a Nintendo here & there.

I basically get paid to play with computer toys & set them up perfectly for different people & companies, which is an awful lot of fun for me. I also get to travel around my state, so it's new projects, new people, and new places on a regular basis. Even though I wouldn't consider myself rich, I am comfortable & I get to do something that I really enjoy doing, and I consider myself extremely fortunate for being in that position because I've had a lot of crappy jobs in the past that did NOT pay well and were not enjoyable, haha. And I know that there are a lot of people who feel stuck in similar positions & aren't necessarily able to extract themselves from those situations for a variety of reasons.

But looping back to the OP, yup, the higher up the food chain you go, the more money you make & the less you have to hustle. My various crappy minimum-wage jobs back in college were often very stressful & required a lot of work for virtually no money. At one point I had three jobs...it was highly motivating to finish college & get my degree so that I could graduate to a better working environment, haha. Now I have actual free time & I'm not just scraping by financially. So yeah, the phenomenon that you're experiencing is real, and we are fortunate to have it because a lot of people out there aren't so lucky.

I used to love what I did, then I went for the money. Now my problem is that I want both.
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
26,127
1,604
126
so the question is, is it really a super easy job, or, are you just good at it and have experience so you it feels easy to you?
 

repoman0

Diamond Member
Jun 17, 2010
4,544
3,471
136
My college buddies and I were just talking about this. All of us worked shitty jobs at grocery stores, etc for 6 bucks an hour not 10 years ago ... now we clear at least 10 times that for what essentially amounts to solving hard physics and math problems. It's not even that much work, just have to think and write occasional crappy scientist python or matlab code. I certainly work less hard now than I did in retail, college or grad school.
 
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PricklyPete

Lifer
Sep 17, 2002
14,714
164
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Most likely your experience is catching up to your job skillset so everything is simple. Try something out of the box, that you've never done before, or not, and ride the wave to the $$ moon. When things are easy, I tend to look for something that will maybe make me fail.

This. I pushed myself to fail for a decade+ and then stepped back and incrementally have built a very low stress, high paying position over the last 6+ years. It has been great as we have 3 toddlers around the house and I have a lot of family time.

I am no longer being challenged, so I have started applying for VP positions at my company and others. It will require me to push myself (particularly on the management side which I have always wanted to improve)...but I am anxious to be challenged again.

As previously mentioned PAY <> EFFORT ... that is almost universally true.
 

Mai72

Lifer
Sep 12, 2012
11,578
1,741
126
It just depends...

Watched a video w/ Tom Bilyeu and how he and his two buddies took Quest Nutrition from ZERO to ONE BILLION. And, what he said opened my eyes. To achieve big and great things in your life you must be prepared to suffer. Most people aren't willing to put in the long hours it will take to achieve what they were put on Earth to do. For Tom, that was to end obseity. The only way to do that was to build a company, which meant he had to put in the hard work. That's it. You ain't going to be like Tom or an Elon Musk by taking it easy. This is where most people falter. I'm not really against unions, but I'm not really in favor as well. IMO, people end up doing what's easy so they end up slacking off as much as possible. It's just human nature.
 

ImpulsE69

Lifer
Jan 8, 2010
14,946
1,077
126
It just depends...

Watched a video w/ Tom Bilyeu and how he and his two buddies took Quest Nutrition from ZERO to ONE BILLION. And, what he said opened my eyes. To achieve big and great things in your life you must be prepared to suffer. Most people aren't willing to put in the long hours it will take to achieve what they were put on Earth to do. For Tom, that was to end obseity. The only way to do that was to build a company, which meant he had to put in the hard work. That's it. You ain't going to be like Tom or an Elon Musk by taking it easy. This is where most people falter. I'm not really against unions, but I'm not really in favor as well. IMO, people end up doing what's easy so they end up slacking off as much as possible. It's just human nature.

Wait...how's that ending obesity going?
 

brianmanahan

Lifer
Sep 2, 2006
24,302
5,731
136
We need to get to the bottom of why Zeze disassociates himself with his Korean attributes and instead attempts to align himself to the caucasian race. He could have easily posted a random Korean mans photo. There's some deep hidden repression here that needs to be brought out and discussed.

This is important stuff.

if you want extra credit, see if you can figure out why my profile pic is wiz even though i am in fact not black
 

AdamK47

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
15,322
2,928
126
if you want extra credit, see if you can figure out why my profile pic is wiz even though i am in fact not black

You were raised to believe the world doesn't exist upon races and creeds. That the world is a grand utopia of possibilities devoid of man-made barriers. You see into the bright luminescent soul of the world each of us partakes as we emerge into it. Your pure upbringing exists as a prime example of the grandeur in ones self that is possible when given the right conditions.
 
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brianmanahan

Lifer
Sep 2, 2006
24,302
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You were raised to believe the world doesn't exist upon races and creeds. That the world is a grand utopia of possibilities devoid of man-made barriers. You see into the bright luminescent soul of the world each of us partakes as we emerge into it. Your pure upbringing exists as a prime example of the grandeur in ones self that is possible when given the right conditions.

beautiful

but one afternoon with my either of my grandpas shattered this idyllic worldview
 
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