How is Life in the Military?

[Dari]

I've been seriously entertaining the idea of joining the military before I head off to grad school. From what I've seen/heard, it's a glorious rite of passage that's incomparable to anything else. Furthermore, no one here can advocate an aggressive American foreign policy without getting their feet wet and seeing firsthand what life is like in the trenches.

Provided I don't get killed or become and invalid, the experience could be a life-turner. At worst, I could become a John Kerry, those that have lost all sense of manhood. At best, I could become a George Bush senior, one of the most accomplished men in human history.

One big problem I have is taking orders without asking questions. Though difficult, I guess I could adapt.

 

[kylebisme]

don't worry Dari, they have rigorous brainwashing prgrams to get in line with the chain of command. granted, the brainwashing doesn't work on everyone, but from what i know of you i am sure you will be unqestioningly stacking naked prisoners in homoerotic pyramids within no time at all.

 

[going5hole]

Don't believe the whole "guys in the military don't get paid shit" theory, which I've been hearing my entire life . My brother in law is an E3, and he brings home roughly 1200 bucks every two weeks, after taxes. He doesn't live on base anymore. He's got complete medical coverage too. Now that he's in combat, he's bringing roughly 3500 every two weeks, although that does include separation pay from his wife and child.

 

[Zephyr106]

glorious rite of passage

getting their feet wet

lost all sense of manhood

George Bush senior, one of the most accomplished men in human history

Is the OP a joke?

Zephyr

 

[CanOWorms]

you'd probably be a much greater use to this country by getting your graduate degree than being a grunt in the military

 

[Red Dawn]

Go for it.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
you'd probably be a much greater use to this country by getting your graduate degree than being a grunt in the military

No, let him be a grunt. He needs to find out what it's really like.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Oh, make sure you join in a branch that guarantees you combat time. Join the Marines, and insist on an Iraq tour.

 

[cash1220]

if you already have your degree why not try to be an officer?

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
you'd probably be a much greater use to this country by getting your graduate degree than being a grunt in the military

No, let him be a grunt. He needs to find out what it's really like.

Unfortunately we can't find out what everything is really like in our lifetimes. Personally I'd take the graduate degree over wasting my life away in the military as a grunt.

 

[MAW1082]

Sign up to take over the world! Awesome.

 

[DealMonkey]

Dari - just don't get your ass captured by enemy combatants over there. Especially considering you've single-handedly thrown the Geneva Convention out the window...

 

[DeeKnow]

Originally posted by: going5hole
Don't believe the whole "guys in the military don't get paid shit" theory, which I've been hearing my entire life . My brother in law is an E3, and he brings home roughly 1200 bucks every two weeks, after taxes. He doesn't live on base anymore. He's got complete medical coverage too. Now that he's in combat, he's bringing roughly 3500 every two weeks, although that does include separation pay from his wife and child.

LOL you call that good money ???

 

[eigen]

Or maybe you could become like george bush jr. and stay stateside and develop a raging coke habit. That would be fun too.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Oh, make sure you join in a branch that guarantees you combat time. Join the Marines, and insist on an Iraq tour.

Doesn't work that way....my cousin is a Captain, should be a Major before end of year, in the USMC and he can't get over there. He's been trying since before it started. Right now he is out in the deserts of California teaching tank school while the tank platoon he commanded is over in Greece somewhere.

I have another cousin who is USMC and he is sitting in Japan....wants to go to Iraq but can't get there either.

 

[DealMonkey]

nm

 

[Gaard]

Did your mentor ever serve?

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Dari
I've been seriously entertaining the idea of joining the military before I head off to grad school. From what I've seen/heard, it's a glorious rite of passage that's incomparable to anything else. Furthermore, no one here can advocate an aggressive American foreign policy without getting their feet wet and seeing firsthand what life is like in the trenches.

Provided I don't get killed or become and invalid, the experience could be a life-turner. At worst, I could become a John Kerry, those that have lost all sense of manhood. At best, I could become a George Bush senior, one of the most accomplished men in human history.

One big problem I have is taking orders without asking questions. Though difficult, I guess I could adapt.

Your experience will probably play out this way:

Right now, you see the honor and the glory and the adventure.

During your service, you will see the mind numbing shortcomings and stupidity from the inside, and will grumble and bitch like a crack ho who can't find her pipe.

Years later, you will treasure the friends you made, and the bond of shared experience you went through, and all the FUBARED SNAFUS will fade from your mind to a smile.

Hopefully, you will be a wiser man for it.

That is, if you don't get killed or maimed for life.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Oh, make sure you join in a branch that guarantees you combat time. Join the Marines, and insist on an Iraq tour.

Doesn't work that way....my cousin is a Captain, should be a Major before end of year, in the USMC and he can't get over there. He's been trying since before it started. Right now he is out in the deserts of California teaching tank school while the tank platoon he commanded is over in Greece somewhere.

I have another cousin who is USMC and he is sitting in Japan....wants to go to Iraq but can't get there either.

They are officers. He goes in enlisted. Your cousin is more valuable in his current position. Dari can get to the action if he has the will to.

 

[LordMagnusKain]

Originally posted by: Dari
I've been seriously entertaining the idea of joining the military before I head off to grad school. From what I've seen/heard, it's a glorious rite of passage that's incomparable to anything else. Furthermore, no one here can advocate an aggressive American foreign policy without getting their feet wet and seeing firsthand what life is like in the trenches.

Provided I don't get killed or become and invalid, the experience could be a life-turner. At worst, I could become a John Kerry, those that have lost all sense of manhood. At best, I could become a George Bush senior, one of the most accomplished men in human history.

One big problem I have is taking orders without asking questions. Though difficult, I guess I could adapt.

join the navy

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Oh, make sure you join in a branch that guarantees you combat time. Join the Marines, and insist on an Iraq tour.

Doesn't work that way....my cousin is a Captain, should be a Major before end of year, in the USMC and he can't get over there. He's been trying since before it started. Right now he is out in the deserts of California teaching tank school while the tank platoon he commanded is over in Greece somewhere.

I have another cousin who is USMC and he is sitting in Japan....wants to go to Iraq but can't get there either.

They are officers. He goes in enlisted. Your cousin is more valuable in his current position. Dari can get to the action if he has the will to.

Actually only 1 of my cousins is an officer. The other is just your everyday normal grunt. Assigned to an artillery unit last I heard.

As for the other cousin being more valauble. I suppose that is true since he is teaching advanced tank warfare, but he would still rather be in the fight. The closest he got was going to Kuwait with his commanding General just before the war with to do some sort of pre staging of some armor units. The week after they got back the war started.....he was not happy about missing out at all.

 

[mastertech01]

Originally posted by: going5hole
Don't believe the whole "guys in the military don't get paid shit" theory, which I've been hearing my entire life . My brother in law is an E3, and he brings home roughly 1200 bucks every two weeks, after taxes. He doesn't live on base anymore. He's got complete medical coverage too. Now that he's in combat, he's bringing roughly 3500 every two weeks, although that does include separation pay from his wife and child.

He must be selling drugs on the side... NO E3 in the military makes that kind of money every 2 weeks.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Dari
I've been seriously entertaining the idea of joining the military before I head off to grad school. From what I've seen/heard, it's a glorious rite of passage that's incomparable to anything else. Furthermore, no one here can advocate an aggressive American foreign policy without getting their feet wet and seeing firsthand what life is like in the trenches.

Provided I don't get killed or become and invalid, the experience could be a life-turner. At worst, I could become a John Kerry, those that have lost all sense of manhood. At best, I could become a George Bush senior, one of the most accomplished men in human history.

One big problem I have is taking orders without asking questions. Though difficult, I guess I could adapt.

Yep.. you could actually go through several tours of combat OR you could get your Dad to hide you away in a police force with Army ROTC training?? *since George is calling up unprecedented numbers of national guard I changed his historical role in your stupid characterization of the two men.

Kerry had balls of IRON while in Vietnam
Bush had coke-addict episodes and convictions for drunk driving

I hope you go straight to the front line in Iraq so you can show your support for George.

 

[dahunan]

Maybe if Dari tells them he wants to and looks forward to torturing Iraqi citizens then they will send him?


EDIT


Dari spent A LONG TIME HERE - JUSTIFYING and sharing his approval of the prison abuses.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Maybe if Dari tells them he wants to and looks forward to torturing Iraqi citizens then they will send him?

Do you really have to be an ass? A small minority of idiots was responsible for the "torture" of Iraqi prisoners. Stop trying to say that all U.S. Servicemen/Servicewomen are like that.