How long are we stuck with DDR3?

superccs

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Seems like there should be another memory standard coming down the pipeline... but I haven't heard about anything yet. Is desktop DDR5 coming or RAMBUS2, nanotube DIMMS?

What memory are the next gen platforms going to be running?
 

Burner27

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Seems like there should be another memory standard coming down the pipeline... but I haven't heard about anything yet. Is desktop DDR5 coming or RAMBUS2, nanotube DIMMS?

What memory are the next gen platforms going to be running?

Have you noticed a performance dip recently that would necessitate the need for faster ram?
 

mv2devnull

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I did just buy a "next gen" system. For me it is a first that contains DDR3. Yet, I'm not the last of a pack. Hence there are a lot of users that do not yet benefit from the speed of DDR3. A lot of profits to be gained by simply selling DDR3.
 

WhoBeDaPlaya

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DDR3 is still fine, next gen platforms will just go wider (S-2011's quad-channel).
H*ll, the price of DDR3 just recently dropped down to sane levels (compared to even late last year when it was $20+ / GB)
 

Blain

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I haven't even used DDR3 yet, but I'm itching for DDR4.
DDR3 seems so "yesterday" at this point. :\
 

DannyLove

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I would hope not anytime soon as I'm still on DDR2 and plan to upgrade eventually sometime this year. I hate it when I upgrade and something new comes out!!!
 

repoman0

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There's a danger that DDR3 will end up feeling slow if some crazy fools start integrating graphics into CPUs.

This is the only reason we'll possibly need to move on from DDR3 in the near future for regular desktop systems. Even 1333MHz with slow 9-9-9 timings on both AMD and Intel current platforms is more than fast enough and next to no difference can be seen from going to 1600MHz+ with 7-7-7 timings.
 

Lorne

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The trend will go DDR4 since its the profitable way to go with little improvement, Technically it should jump straight to DDR5.
 

Munky

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There's a danger that DDR3 will end up feeling slow if some crazy fools start integrating graphics into CPUs.

It'll be a long time before you see something like a radeon 6970 integrated in to a CPU. In the meantime, the crazy fools could adopt quad-channel memory controllers.
 

Dark Shroud

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We'll probably see eDram used before we see something faster than DDR3. And yes I think we'll wind up jumping straight to DDR5 by the time the plate forms are ready to jump.
 

Hacp

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Why are you complaining about being "stuck" at DDR3? The longer DDR3 lasts, the cheaper it gets. Manufacturers want the next ram standard to be adopted ASAP so they can continue to overcharge for memory.
 

WildW

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It'll be a long time before you see something like a radeon 6970 integrated in to a CPU. In the meantime, the crazy fools could adopt quad-channel memory controllers.

Yes, I guess it would make sense to add an extra couple of memory channels and do it that way. It's starting to feel like they removed all the complexity of discrete graphics only to start putting it back again - admittedly not quite so bad.
 

semo

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Why are you complaining about being "stuck" at DDR3? The longer DDR3 lasts, the cheaper it gets. Manufacturers want the next ram standard to be adopted ASAP so they can continue to overcharge for memory.

This. Nothing wrong with DDR3. It's fast enough, cheap at this point and it comes in large capacities.
 

poohbear

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I would hope not anytime soon as I'm still on DDR2 and plan to upgrade eventually sometime this year. I hate it when I upgrade and something new comes out!!!

this! although in the past couple of years i noticed the pace of desktops has slowed down considereably. I still recall buying normal SDR RAM only to have DDR ram come out the same year, and then once i upgraded to DDR ram DDR2 came out etc. DDR3 seems to have been around for a while and still staying. The recession had something to do w/ that i believe, Intel said it didnt think it was a good time to push a new product that nobody would be buying.
 

taltamir

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faster ram does not give a linear performance increase. If you don't have enough to feed your CPU then the speed increase is pronounced, but there are rapidly diminishing returns which diminish to pretty much nothing. We are currently at that point, average DDR3 is fast enough that a speed bin increase gives ~1% increase on the fastest CPUs out there.
We need more cores, faster CPUs, and/or GPU integration to push the need for faster RAM again. Until then it is better to focus on quantity of RAM, the more the better
 
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