How long will a chemical/drug clears out from the body?

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zanejohnson

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Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: zanejohnson

it's funny how the hard drugs are out so quick, when harmless drugs like pot can stay for up to 4 months if your a very heavy user. i have a friend who was a very heavy pot smoker, i mean like a joint every hour or so, sometimes up to 10-15 joints a day, when he had to quit he actually had withdrawal symptoms that were alot like opiate withdrawal, i myself have never been a HEAVY pot user, at my heaviest times i would smoke 3 or 4 joints in a day, and i never had physical withdrawal, there were definitely psychological withdrawal, but other than some hot and cold flashes it wasnt physical at all... opiates have terrible physical withdrawal symptoms as well as psychological....

Just wanted to point out that a drug is not harmless if it gives you physical and/or psychological withdrawal issues. Additionally current clinical research, most of it done in Europe and Australia, point to some very serious harmful consequences of smoking pot.

It appears that the chart previously linked is probably pretty accurate. One comment I would add is that based on some material I came across in the past, that very heavy pot users can have it in their system for months after quitting; probably talking more about those that have been smoking since the first Woodstock, though. The half-life of a drug, though, is not the only factor. A lot of the pharmacokinetics will depend on lipid solubility, metabolism, and will likely follow a quadratic curve.

well i'll say this much, pot is lot better for you, and has alot less harmful effects than alcohol, and tobacco.

 

BudAshes

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Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: zanejohnson

it's funny how the hard drugs are out so quick, when harmless drugs like pot can stay for up to 4 months if your a very heavy user. i have a friend who was a very heavy pot smoker, i mean like a joint every hour or so, sometimes up to 10-15 joints a day, when he had to quit he actually had withdrawal symptoms that were alot like opiate withdrawal, i myself have never been a HEAVY pot user, at my heaviest times i would smoke 3 or 4 joints in a day, and i never had physical withdrawal, there were definitely psychological withdrawal, but other than some hot and cold flashes it wasnt physical at all... opiates have terrible physical withdrawal symptoms as well as psychological....

Just wanted to point out that a drug is not harmless if it gives you physical and/or psychological withdrawal issues. Additionally current clinical research, most of it done in Europe and Australia, point to some very serious harmful consequences of smoking pot.

It appears that the chart previously linked is probably pretty accurate. One comment I would add is that based on some material I came across in the past, that very heavy pot users can have it in their system for months after quitting; probably talking more about those that have been smoking since the first Woodstock, though. The half-life of a drug, though, is not the only factor. A lot of the pharmacokinetics will depend on lipid solubility, metabolism, and will likely follow a quadratic curve.

Harmless compared to other drugs, sort of like caffeine is.
 

venkman

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Originally posted by: zanejohnson
Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: zanejohnson

it's funny how the hard drugs are out so quick, when harmless drugs like pot can stay for up to 4 months if your a very heavy user. i have a friend who was a very heavy pot smoker, i mean like a joint every hour or so, sometimes up to 10-15 joints a day, when he had to quit he actually had withdrawal symptoms that were alot like opiate withdrawal, i myself have never been a HEAVY pot user, at my heaviest times i would smoke 3 or 4 joints in a day, and i never had physical withdrawal, there were definitely psychological withdrawal, but other than some hot and cold flashes it wasnt physical at all... opiates have terrible physical withdrawal symptoms as well as psychological....

Just wanted to point out that a drug is not harmless if it gives you physical and/or psychological withdrawal issues. Additionally current clinical research, most of it done in Europe and Australia, point to some very serious harmful consequences of smoking pot.

It appears that the chart previously linked is probably pretty accurate. One comment I would add is that based on some material I came across in the past, that very heavy pot users can have it in their system for months after quitting; probably talking more about those that have been smoking since the first Woodstock, though. The half-life of a drug, though, is not the only factor. A lot of the pharmacokinetics will depend on lipid solubility, metabolism, and will likely follow a quadratic curve.

well i'll say this much, pot is lot better for you, and has alot less harmful effects than alcohol, and tobacco.

Alcohol cleans my insides like soap does my outsides. At least thats what I keep telling myself to justify excessive drinking.
 

zanejohnson

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if your gonna put an illegal substance in your body, the safest for you is marijuana...

shit it's actually safer than alot of legal substances... like acetiminophen (tylenol), a large enough dose, ~6-8 grams of it will cause your liver to stop functioning.... no amount of pot will cause this, the lethal dose of marijuana is an amount that is so outrageous it would be impossible to injest enough to get there... there is no way you can OD on marijuana. try saying that for alcohol or tobacco...you cant.
 

RaistlinZ

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Originally posted by: Battousai001
Thanks for all the replies. I was quite surprised on the answers as the replies assumed the drugs I was talking about are illegal drugs, actually the drugs/medicine I was talking about are legal prescription drugs. But again thanks for the replies, those were interesting and I learned some new things like hair samples can contain traces of drugs.

Sure, whatever you say dude. Good luck on the drug test tomorrow.

 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: zanejohnson
if your gonna put an illegal substance in your body, the safest for you is marijuana...

shit it's actually safer than alot of legal substances... like acetiminophen (tylenol), a large enough dose, ~6-8 grams of it will cause your liver to stop functioning.... no amount of pot will cause this, the lethal dose of marijuana is an amount that is so outrageous it would be impossible to injest enough to get there... there is no way you can OD on marijuana. try saying that for alcohol or tobacco...you cant.

8 grams of tylenol is 8 extra strength pills... bullshit.

Also, lung cancer sucks.
 

Mark R

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
8 grams of tylenol is 8 extra strength pills... bullshit.
8 Grams is quite enough to cause fatal liver failure.

Acetaminophen is deceptively dangerous in OD, as at the recommended dosage it is virtually 100% safe.

OD of acetaminophen is particularly dangerous in people who regularly drink alcohol (more than 4 drinks a week), and there are regular deaths of students and other young people from 'alcohol-acetaminophen syndrome'.
 

zanejohnson

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Originally posted by: Mark R
Originally posted by: Acanthus
8 grams of tylenol is 8 extra strength pills... bullshit.
8 Grams is quite enough to cause fatal liver failure.

Acetaminophen is deceptively dangerous in OD, as at the recommended dosage it is virtually 100% safe.

OD of acetaminophen is particularly dangerous in people who regularly drink alcohol (more than 4 drinks a week), and there are regular deaths of students and other young people from 'alcohol-acetaminophen syndrome'.

yep exactly, dont question what i say when it comes to drugs, this is one topic ATOT can always rely that what i say is truth be told.
 

zanejohnson

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and i highly doubt there's a pill sold OTC that has a gram of APAP, that's 1000mg....

they usually have 200-400mg, i think midol actually has the most apap of all medications sold with apap.

 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: zanejohnson
and i highly doubt there's a pill sold OTC that has a gram of APAP, that's 1000mg....

they usually have 200-400mg, i think midol actually has the most apap of all medications sold with apap.

All extra strength tylenol pills are 500mg and you take 2 at a time.

APAP/Codeine pills are 1000mg.

Also, lung cancer still sucks.
 

zanejohnson

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: zanejohnson
and i highly doubt there's a pill sold OTC that has a gram of APAP, that's 1000mg....

they usually have 200-400mg, i think midol actually has the most apap of all medications sold with apap.

All extra strength tylenol pills are 500mg and you take 2 at a time.

APAP/Codeine pills are 1000mg.

Also, lung cancer still sucks.

so we've learned so far:

extra strength tylenol if taken, in greater than the recommended dosages is more harmful than smoking marijuana.

and as for the lung cancer , there have been many people who never smoked a cigarette or anything in there entire lives who have been diagnosed with lung cancer, and there's some people who are 80 years old and have smoked cigs since they were teenagers who never developed lung cancer.

just face it, APAP is more dangerous than pot. end of story. Alcohol is more dangerous than pot. end of story. cigarettes are more dangerous than pot as well. you can OD on a very small amount of Nicotine, while it's IMPOSSIBLE to OD on pot.... and if your worried about lung cancer you could always just cook with your marijuana, and eliminate that concern all together.
 

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Originally posted by: BrownTown
Just theoretically speaking the drug NEVER fully leaves your system, even after 5 half lives there is still 1/32 as much as you started with. So its gonna take a long time before every single molecule is gone, but if you are talking about drug testing then you can look it up in a dozen places, its all a factor of the half life of the drug, and the accuracy of the test being used. Apparently with hair you can get many drugs for up to 90 days, but most employers use urine samples which are usually only a few days for most things, and a few weeks for pot.

You don't know what the Fvck you're talking about. Chemicals don't have an inverse exponential decay
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: Battousai001
I would like to ask how long will a chemical/drug clears out or be totally eliminated from the body? I have read that it usually takes five half-lives of a drug before it gets eliminated out of the the body, is this true? but what if somebody is taking the drug for long periods like months is the computation of five half-lives for each dose taken still applies?

1) What drug(s) did you do?
2) When is the drug test?
 

kstu

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: kstu
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Also, lung cancer still sucks.
Woops: pot-smoking-not-linked-to-lung-cancer

Anything else you'd like to add?
A bunch of potheads linking to the same UCLA study is not > all of the other studies ever produced on the topic.
And you've done a marvelous job providing links to said studies. :roll: Care to back up your statement? I'm not trying to bash you, really. I'm genuinely interested in reading about the subject and I would readily retract my statement if you can provide proof.
 

GenHoth

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What the hell is the half-life of a drug? Do they decay and render half of the medication worthless after a certain amount of time?
 

SunnyD

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: zanejohnson
and i highly doubt there's a pill sold OTC that has a gram of APAP, that's 1000mg....

they usually have 200-400mg, i think midol actually has the most apap of all medications sold with apap.

All extra strength tylenol pills are 500mg and you take 2 at a time.

APAP/Codeine pills are 1000mg.

Also, lung cancer still sucks.

Which means 16 pills, not 8 for ES Tylenol. It should be readily obvious at that amount it will fuck you up.
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: zanejohnson
Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: zanejohnson

it's funny how the hard drugs are out so quick, when harmless drugs like pot can stay for up to 4 months if your a very heavy user. i have a friend who was a very heavy pot smoker, i mean like a joint every hour or so, sometimes up to 10-15 joints a day, when he had to quit he actually had withdrawal symptoms that were alot like opiate withdrawal, i myself have never been a HEAVY pot user, at my heaviest times i would smoke 3 or 4 joints in a day, and i never had physical withdrawal, there were definitely psychological withdrawal, but other than some hot and cold flashes it wasnt physical at all... opiates have terrible physical withdrawal symptoms as well as psychological....

Just wanted to point out that a drug is not harmless if it gives you physical and/or psychological withdrawal issues. Additionally current clinical research, most of it done in Europe and Australia, point to some very serious harmful consequences of smoking pot.

It appears that the chart previously linked is probably pretty accurate. One comment I would add is that based on some material I came across in the past, that very heavy pot users can have it in their system for months after quitting; probably talking more about those that have been smoking since the first Woodstock, though. The half-life of a drug, though, is not the only factor. A lot of the pharmacokinetics will depend on lipid solubility, metabolism, and will likely follow a quadratic curve.

well i'll say this much, pot is lot better for you, and has alot less harmful effects than alcohol, and tobacco.

not better for you, just not as dangerous as others. if you want to see the long term effects of pot, go backstage at any concert and look at the crew. most pretty much breathe pot. i did that job for 13 years, watched a lot of poundage get smoked. there were lots of other harder drugs too, but i doubt most of those guys are around much anymore, they usually end up dead pretty early in life. this is the same thing i did with my oldest daughter when she turned 11 and we had our first conversation about drugs in her schools. i took her backstage at a show (thanks to my old bosses and friends) and showed her the long term effects of that lifestyle. i hope she makes the right decision in life about that stuff.
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: kstu
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Also, lung cancer still sucks.
Woops: pot-smoking-not-linked-to-lung-cancer

Anything else you'd like to add?

ill add this quote...


?We know that there are as many or more carcinogens and co-carcinogens in marijuana smoke as in cigarettes,? researcher Donald Tashkin, MD, of UCLA?s David Geffen School of Medicine tells WebMD.

regardless of whether they found any link, the possibility is still there. unless you think THC is this anti cancer agent, brought to earth by the spaghetti monster to cure us all of the lung cancer. all studies are biased one way or the other, im not going to be naive and say this one is true. im also not going to say that pot contributes to lung cancer as much as cigs either. just that neither side has proven their point well enough yet.
 
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