Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: zanejohnson
it's funny how the hard drugs are out so quick, when harmless drugs like pot can stay for up to 4 months if your a very heavy user. i have a friend who was a very heavy pot smoker, i mean like a joint every hour or so, sometimes up to 10-15 joints a day, when he had to quit he actually had withdrawal symptoms that were alot like opiate withdrawal, i myself have never been a HEAVY pot user, at my heaviest times i would smoke 3 or 4 joints in a day, and i never had physical withdrawal, there were definitely psychological withdrawal, but other than some hot and cold flashes it wasnt physical at all... opiates have terrible physical withdrawal symptoms as well as psychological....
Just wanted to point out that a drug is not harmless if it gives you physical and/or psychological withdrawal issues. Additionally current clinical research, most of it done in Europe and Australia, point to some very serious harmful consequences of smoking pot.
It appears that the chart previously linked is probably pretty accurate. One comment I would add is that based on some material I came across in the past, that very heavy pot users can have it in their system for months after quitting; probably talking more about those that have been smoking since the first Woodstock, though. The half-life of a drug, though, is not the only factor. A lot of the pharmacokinetics will depend on lipid solubility, metabolism, and will likely follow a quadratic curve.
Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: zanejohnson
it's funny how the hard drugs are out so quick, when harmless drugs like pot can stay for up to 4 months if your a very heavy user. i have a friend who was a very heavy pot smoker, i mean like a joint every hour or so, sometimes up to 10-15 joints a day, when he had to quit he actually had withdrawal symptoms that were alot like opiate withdrawal, i myself have never been a HEAVY pot user, at my heaviest times i would smoke 3 or 4 joints in a day, and i never had physical withdrawal, there were definitely psychological withdrawal, but other than some hot and cold flashes it wasnt physical at all... opiates have terrible physical withdrawal symptoms as well as psychological....
Just wanted to point out that a drug is not harmless if it gives you physical and/or psychological withdrawal issues. Additionally current clinical research, most of it done in Europe and Australia, point to some very serious harmful consequences of smoking pot.
It appears that the chart previously linked is probably pretty accurate. One comment I would add is that based on some material I came across in the past, that very heavy pot users can have it in their system for months after quitting; probably talking more about those that have been smoking since the first Woodstock, though. The half-life of a drug, though, is not the only factor. A lot of the pharmacokinetics will depend on lipid solubility, metabolism, and will likely follow a quadratic curve.
Originally posted by: zanejohnson
Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: zanejohnson
it's funny how the hard drugs are out so quick, when harmless drugs like pot can stay for up to 4 months if your a very heavy user. i have a friend who was a very heavy pot smoker, i mean like a joint every hour or so, sometimes up to 10-15 joints a day, when he had to quit he actually had withdrawal symptoms that were alot like opiate withdrawal, i myself have never been a HEAVY pot user, at my heaviest times i would smoke 3 or 4 joints in a day, and i never had physical withdrawal, there were definitely psychological withdrawal, but other than some hot and cold flashes it wasnt physical at all... opiates have terrible physical withdrawal symptoms as well as psychological....
Just wanted to point out that a drug is not harmless if it gives you physical and/or psychological withdrawal issues. Additionally current clinical research, most of it done in Europe and Australia, point to some very serious harmful consequences of smoking pot.
It appears that the chart previously linked is probably pretty accurate. One comment I would add is that based on some material I came across in the past, that very heavy pot users can have it in their system for months after quitting; probably talking more about those that have been smoking since the first Woodstock, though. The half-life of a drug, though, is not the only factor. A lot of the pharmacokinetics will depend on lipid solubility, metabolism, and will likely follow a quadratic curve.
well i'll say this much, pot is lot better for you, and has alot less harmful effects than alcohol, and tobacco.
Originally posted by: Battousai001
Thanks for all the replies. I was quite surprised on the answers as the replies assumed the drugs I was talking about are illegal drugs, actually the drugs/medicine I was talking about are legal prescription drugs. But again thanks for the replies, those were interesting and I learned some new things like hair samples can contain traces of drugs.
Originally posted by: zanejohnson
if your gonna put an illegal substance in your body, the safest for you is marijuana...
shit it's actually safer than alot of legal substances... like acetiminophen (tylenol), a large enough dose, ~6-8 grams of it will cause your liver to stop functioning.... no amount of pot will cause this, the lethal dose of marijuana is an amount that is so outrageous it would be impossible to injest enough to get there... there is no way you can OD on marijuana. try saying that for alcohol or tobacco...you cant.
8 Grams is quite enough to cause fatal liver failure.Originally posted by: Acanthus
8 grams of tylenol is 8 extra strength pills... bullshit.
Originally posted by: Mark R
8 Grams is quite enough to cause fatal liver failure.Originally posted by: Acanthus
8 grams of tylenol is 8 extra strength pills... bullshit.
Acetaminophen is deceptively dangerous in OD, as at the recommended dosage it is virtually 100% safe.
OD of acetaminophen is particularly dangerous in people who regularly drink alcohol (more than 4 drinks a week), and there are regular deaths of students and other young people from 'alcohol-acetaminophen syndrome'.
Originally posted by: zanejohnson
and i highly doubt there's a pill sold OTC that has a gram of APAP, that's 1000mg....
they usually have 200-400mg, i think midol actually has the most apap of all medications sold with apap.
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: zanejohnson
and i highly doubt there's a pill sold OTC that has a gram of APAP, that's 1000mg....
they usually have 200-400mg, i think midol actually has the most apap of all medications sold with apap.
All extra strength tylenol pills are 500mg and you take 2 at a time.
APAP/Codeine pills are 1000mg.
Also, lung cancer still sucks.
Woops: pot-smoking-not-linked-to-lung-cancerOriginally posted by: Acanthus
Also, lung cancer still sucks.
Originally posted by: BrownTown
Just theoretically speaking the drug NEVER fully leaves your system, even after 5 half lives there is still 1/32 as much as you started with. So its gonna take a long time before every single molecule is gone, but if you are talking about drug testing then you can look it up in a dozen places, its all a factor of the half life of the drug, and the accuracy of the test being used. Apparently with hair you can get many drugs for up to 90 days, but most employers use urine samples which are usually only a few days for most things, and a few weeks for pot.
Originally posted by: Battousai001
I would like to ask how long will a chemical/drug clears out or be totally eliminated from the body? I have read that it usually takes five half-lives of a drug before it gets eliminated out of the the body, is this true? but what if somebody is taking the drug for long periods like months is the computation of five half-lives for each dose taken still applies?
Originally posted by: kstu
Woops: pot-smoking-not-linked-to-lung-cancerOriginally posted by: Acanthus
Also, lung cancer still sucks.
Anything else you'd like to add?
And you've done a marvelous job providing links to said studies. :roll: Care to back up your statement? I'm not trying to bash you, really. I'm genuinely interested in reading about the subject and I would readily retract my statement if you can provide proof.Originally posted by: Acanthus
A bunch of potheads linking to the same UCLA study is not > all of the other studies ever produced on the topic.Originally posted by: kstu
Woops: pot-smoking-not-linked-to-lung-cancerOriginally posted by: Acanthus
Also, lung cancer still sucks.
Anything else you'd like to add?
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: zanejohnson
and i highly doubt there's a pill sold OTC that has a gram of APAP, that's 1000mg....
they usually have 200-400mg, i think midol actually has the most apap of all medications sold with apap.
All extra strength tylenol pills are 500mg and you take 2 at a time.
APAP/Codeine pills are 1000mg.
Also, lung cancer still sucks.
Originally posted by: zanejohnson
Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: zanejohnson
it's funny how the hard drugs are out so quick, when harmless drugs like pot can stay for up to 4 months if your a very heavy user. i have a friend who was a very heavy pot smoker, i mean like a joint every hour or so, sometimes up to 10-15 joints a day, when he had to quit he actually had withdrawal symptoms that were alot like opiate withdrawal, i myself have never been a HEAVY pot user, at my heaviest times i would smoke 3 or 4 joints in a day, and i never had physical withdrawal, there were definitely psychological withdrawal, but other than some hot and cold flashes it wasnt physical at all... opiates have terrible physical withdrawal symptoms as well as psychological....
Just wanted to point out that a drug is not harmless if it gives you physical and/or psychological withdrawal issues. Additionally current clinical research, most of it done in Europe and Australia, point to some very serious harmful consequences of smoking pot.
It appears that the chart previously linked is probably pretty accurate. One comment I would add is that based on some material I came across in the past, that very heavy pot users can have it in their system for months after quitting; probably talking more about those that have been smoking since the first Woodstock, though. The half-life of a drug, though, is not the only factor. A lot of the pharmacokinetics will depend on lipid solubility, metabolism, and will likely follow a quadratic curve.
well i'll say this much, pot is lot better for you, and has alot less harmful effects than alcohol, and tobacco.
Originally posted by: kstu
Woops: pot-smoking-not-linked-to-lung-cancerOriginally posted by: Acanthus
Also, lung cancer still sucks.
Anything else you'd like to add?
?We know that there are as many or more carcinogens and co-carcinogens in marijuana smoke as in cigarettes,? researcher Donald Tashkin, MD, of UCLA?s David Geffen School of Medicine tells WebMD.