How many Americans deaths will Trump be directly responsible for due to COVID-45

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alien42

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I call BS on that. Washington's Governor as of yesterday says we are running out of tests, so more lies from the lying Chump and his circus clowns.. er I mean Trump and his administration. (I do not count the doctor's and scientists that the Chump's try to ignore)

of course it's BS, as is most of the daily update/shitshow.

besides the overall supply problem with testing and equipment is that the federal government isn't managing the supplies that we currently have, based on localized need. the military/national guard should be transporting equipment to where it is needed and that isn't happening.

i can't really say i am surprised as the anti-fed, pro-state party has preached this for decades.
 
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Bitek

Lifer
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Trump said the other day it's possible 100,000 will end up dying in the US from this. But, without his swift action and keen mind on how to deal with this pandamic. The number could have been a million. He saved possibly 900k lives!

I guess he also saved several billion people today by not launching a nuclear war. All hail Dear Leader!
 

Bitek

Lifer
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with 4.5 hours left in the day in the US (EST), we might reach 1,000 deaths just today.

i now have absolutely no doubt that when this pandemic is over, we will have the highest death count in the world, by a long shot.

make America great again my ass.

If this thing rips through India it's going to a bloodbath. That death toll will be in the millions.
 
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HomerJS

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Jan 20, 2020. What is the significance of this date? Answer to follow with commentary.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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In fact, I have it on good authority that "I take no responsibility for all of the deaths tomorrow" was what Eisenhower said to inspire the allied forces under his command on the eve of D-Day. What a leader!
The flip side is that you didn’t have politically tribalistic Americans Monday morning quarterbacking and blaming FDR for not proactively having two American divisions positioned on the French border immediately after Hitler coming to power. You didn’t have politically tribalistic Americans immediately blaming FDR for American deaths in Hawaii in the wake of Pearl Harbor. In the wake of 9/11, the country rallied around President Bush.

In the wake of those events, investigations were held and lessons were learned, with some blame eventually fell on the sitting President, and changes were made based on what we learned in those mistakes.
 

sportage

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Just noticed US deaths have exceeded 4000 and infected nearing 200,000.
yet our SOB governor refuses to order an stay at home order.
All of these Republican governors putting states in jeopardy should be criminally prosecuted when this is over.
 

Atari2600

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Damn that virus for its elaborate decoys, deceptions and suppression of any intelligence we had on its movements.

How could poor Donald be expected to fight against a foe that is obviously far more intelligent than him?
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
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The flip side is that you didn’t have politically tribalistic Americans Monday morning quarterbacking and blaming FDR for not proactively having two American divisions positioned on the French border immediately after Hitler coming to power. You didn’t have politically tribalistic Americans immediately blaming FDR for American deaths in Hawaii in the wake of Pearl Harbor. In the wake of 9/11, the country rallied around President Bush.

In the wake of those events, investigations were held and lessons were learned, with some blame eventually fell on the sitting President, and changes were made based on what we learned in those mistakes.
The flip side FDR didn't lie to the American people on a daily basis. FDR didn't show he could not be trusted on a daily basis. Makes it a little easier to rally around a President.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Jan 20, 2020. What is the significance of this date? Answer to follow with commentary.
The first recorded cases of COVID-19 in the United States and South Korea.

For your own enlightenment look where we are now.

Even today the federal government refuses to take charge of supply lines of medical equipment and PPEs. Instead Trump is accusing hospital workers of stealing it when we have shortages.
 
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Starbuck1975

Lifer
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The flip side FDR didn't lie to the American people on a daily basis. FDR didn't show he could not be trusted on a daily basis. Makes it a little easier to rally around a President.
Trump is unquestionably a divisive leader. There in lies the problem. Roughly 40% of the country believed Trump to be a messiah and another 40% will hate him no matter what.

Governor Cuomo is a good contrast. While he may sound presidential, and therefore easy to rally around, the death toll in NYC is more directly related to budgetary decisions made at the state and city level years before Trump even considered running for President.
 
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How are all these people still getting the virus? Besides work and now my once a week grocery store trip where I am very cautious I stay the f home. Why won't these dipshits take this seriously so we don't have a NY scenario across the country?
 
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Just noticed US deaths have exceeded 4000 and infected nearing 200,000.
yet our SOB governor refuses to order an stay at home order.
All of these Republican governors putting states in jeopardy should be criminally prosecuted when this is over.
Yeah I don't know WTF this is about. Texas just declared a statewide shelter in place order yesterday. Luckily for me my county and counties nearby did this weeks ago. Really making me consider voting democrat. Dollars over lives.
 
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Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
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How are all these people still getting the virus? Besides work and now my once a week grocery store trip where I am very cautious I stay the f home. Why won't these dipshits take this seriously so we don't have a NY scenario across the country?

This virus is insanely contagious, way more contagious than the flu. Incidence of the flu has plummeted since the social distancing began, CV keeps going because it's that much more contagious. Both my brother and sister are leaving the house every day and going to a work place, not everyone's job can be done remotely, not all human contact can be prevented.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Yeah I don't know WTF this is about. Texas just declared a statewide shelter in place order yesterday. Luckily for me my county and counties nearby did this weeks ago. Really making me consider voting democrat. Dollars over lives.

I’m curious, which family member(s) or friend(s), have tested positive for covid-19?
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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How are all these people still getting the virus? Besides work and now my once a week grocery store trip where I am very cautious I stay the f home. Why won't these dipshits take this seriously so we don't have a NY scenario across the country?
You know why. You just refuse to admit it.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Trump is unquestionably a divisive leader. There in lies the problem. Roughly 40% of the country believed Trump to be a messiah and another 40% will hate him no matter what.

Governor Cuomo is a good contrast. While he may sound presidential, and therefore easy to rally around, the death toll in NYC is more directly related to budgetary decisions made at the state and city level years before Trump even considered running for President.
Is using the phrase "divisive leader" your way agreeing or disagreeing when I said
The flip side FDR didn't lie to the American people on a daily basis. FDR didn't show he could not be trusted on a daily basis. Makes it a little easier to rally around a President.

How can a solution be found when there is no agreement on the problem?
 
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