How many Americans deaths will Trump be directly responsible for due to COVID-45

[pmv]

Point taken. Suppose I have always looked at the flu as both unavoidable and untreatable. When I was a kid, becoming sick was just a periodic fact of life. Not something to be acted on. That sentiment sticks with me.

Do we know if people have better outcomes if they seek treatment for viruses like the flu and COVID-19?
I have never imagined going to the hospital for a virus.

Of course people with viral meningitis or pneumonia or any number of viral-caused diseases do better if they can be cared for in hospital than if they can't. Depending on the hospital, anyway! I guess there have been some hospitals in history that _reduced_ your survival chances, back when they didn't really understand how diseases worked. It's about dealing with secondary-effects rather than curing the disease, I guess, though.

What changed the situation of course was large-scale vaccination. It might be that this bug becomes endemic and will circulate periodically until we have a vaccine for it.

 

[Muse]

Trump's mission is to disrupt, weaken, undermine the United States of America, make no mistake.

Fake news

OK, let's have the uncensored version:

Trump's Moscow driven mission is to disrupt, weaken, undermine the United States of America, make no mistake.

 

[Muse]

That's why Putin backed him, isn't it? I hope nobody here thinks it was for the MAGA.

That's exactly right. It's a lot easier and cheaper than building $100,000,000 fighter jets.

 

[Jhhnn]

That's exactly right. It's a lot easier and cheaper than building $100,000,000 fighter jets.

Like throwing poisoned meatballs to a hungry dog.

 

[Jaskalas]

I found the answer I was looking for, this seems to be a really good read on the subject.

Containment, if it cannot stop the disease, is meant to address the rate it spreads. To keep it low enough for there to be beds for those who need them. I thought it was pointless, but apparently Wuhan had a higher death rate due to an overwhelmed medical system. The article explains it all, and logically lays out effective actions that can be taken. I cannot disagree with it.

My apologies for the earlier posts.

 

[DarthKyrie]

That's exactly right. It's a lot easier and cheaper than building $100,000,000 fighter jets.

Like throwing poisoned meatballs to a hungry dog.

This is exactly why I say that the United States lost the Cold War, even with the collapse of the USSR.

 

[cytg111]

I found the answer I was looking for, this seems to be a really good read on the subject.

Containment, if it cannot stop the disease, is meant to address the rate it spreads. To keep it low enough for there to be beds for those who need them. I thought it was pointless, but apparently Wuhan had a higher death rate due to an overwhelmed medical system. The article explains it all, and logically lays out effective actions that can be taken. I cannot disagree with it.

My apologies for the earlier posts.

Well done.

 

[Amused]

I found the answer I was looking for, this seems to be a really good read on the subject.

Containment, if it cannot stop the disease, is meant to address the rate it spreads. To keep it low enough for there to be beds for those who need them. I thought it was pointless, but apparently Wuhan had a higher death rate due to an overwhelmed medical system. The article explains it all, and logically lays out effective actions that can be taken. I cannot disagree with it.

My apologies for the earlier posts.

Being able to correct when faced with new information is commendable.

 

[K1052]

Based on the stories coming out of DC seems like the admin is increasingly pointing fingers at Azar. I'd presume that would be the first head to roll as things worsen.

Pence is set up for the fall if it really goes to shit not that it will matter.

 

[zinfamous]

can we just give Trump a pair of goggles and a roll of paper towels and ask him to charge off into Washington state to defeat COVID-19 once and forever, thus saving the United States of America and becoming the greatest hero this country has ever known?

What if we tell him that the virus has been located on a golf course?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Looks like WA is upping their total number of deaths to 5 as of this moment.

 

[hal2kilo]

Looks like WA is upping their total number of deaths to 5 as of this moment.

It's a pretty dynamic situation with going through all the patients in the nursing home showing symptoms of some kind of respiratory issues. I guess there's finally no issues with having enough testing kits. I'm sure all kinds of contact tracing from that home is taking place.

 

[MtnMan]

Now that it is clear that all Trump wants to do is contradict the medical experts as he downplays the threat, those that have voted in the poll, that it was setup so that you may change your vote.

It is becoming more and more clear that this pig headed incompetent moron is going to cause the death of many Americans through is stupidity and lying.

 

[Homerboy]

Looks like WA is upping their total number of deaths to 5 as of this moment.

it's up to 9 now I think. And all but 1 were from that nursing home. Those people in the nursing home are in trouble. Elderly exposed to the virus for weeks and weeks are not going to fair all that well. If I recall, the case in NC is from a person who visited that nursing home ONCE and then flew back to NC. So there's a carrier spreading it literally across the country unknowingly.

My wife is addicted to the coverage of this thing. She's sends me updates all day long any time there's breaking news.

 

[alien42]

it's up to 9 now I think. And all but 1 were from that nursing home. Those people in the nursing home are in trouble. Elderly exposed to the virus for weeks and weeks are not going to fair all that well. If I recall, the case in NC is from a person who visited that nursing home ONCE and then flew back to NC. So there's a carrier spreading it literally across the country unknowingly.

My wife is addicted to the coverage of this thing. She's sends me updates all day long any time there's breaking news.

It's 10 in WA, 1 in CA

 

[Jaskalas]

Now that it is clear that all Trump wants to do is contradict the medical experts as he downplays the threat, those that have voted in the poll, that it was setup so that you may change your vote.

It is becoming more and more clear that this pig headed incompetent moron is going to cause the death of many Americans through is stupidity and lying.

It's not Trump's fault per say... and let me explain. Who was dumb enough to vote for him, to endorse him, to pave the way for him to not only get elected but to survive impeachment for his crimes against our nation?

We need to draw a firing line around "moderate" Republicans, the Bushies, and hound them over the science, the gross incompetence, and their own fault for allowing it to happen. How DARE they endorse and support Trump!? They should be publicly shamed over it, and this is an opportunity to club them over the head with this situation.

 

[snoopy7548]

It's not Trump's fault per say... and let me explain. Who was dumb enough to vote for him, to endorse him, to pave the way for him to not only get elected but to survive impeachment for his crimes against our nation?

We need to draw a firing line around "moderate" Republicans, the Bushies, and hound them over the science, the gross incompetence, and their own fault for allowing it to happen. How DARE they endorse and support Trump!? They should be publicly shamed over it, and this is an opportunity to club them over the head with this situation.

Yep. At some point it's the parents' responsibility to stop their kid from breaking everything in the store.

 

[UNCjigga]

LOL, Johns Hopkins and the Gates Foundation ran a simulation back in October of what would happen during a novel Coronavirus pandemic event. They called it Event 201 (on average there are 200 small scale epidemics across the globe annually—this was a simulation of The Big One.) Fascinating stuff. Their main focus was highlighting areas where government cooperation, NGOs and public-private partnerships would be needed to contain the threat.

Final outcome was 65 million deaths across the globe during this simulation.

The Internet discovered this and there are now all kinds of Jade Helm level conspiracies and people claiming that we’ll see 65 million dead before the year is out. No, this was not a prediction or a planned release of a virus. Calm the fuck down people!

That said, still a fascinating read.

Event 201 | Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security

The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY.

www.centerforhealthsecurity.org

 

[DigDog]

as long as the virus doesn't hit some impoverished FREEDOM area where they have no COMMUNIST medical insurance and you wind up with a ton of contagious people not going to hospital,
you gonna be fine.

 

[Atreus21]

I predict fewer than the yearly death toll from the flu.

 

[cliftonite]

I predict fewer than the yearly death toll from the flu.

That would be nice.

 

[Muse]

My wife is addicted to the coverage of this thing. She's sends me updates all day long any time there's breaking news.

Is she canny? I was getting pretty addicted to coverage of covid-19. If I didn't have other things to do, I still would be. The last week or so the info's blown up. It's hard to keep track now. Only maybe 10 days ago it was so much more limited. Seems like it's going to get wildly complicated pretty shortly.

 

[dawp]

Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz wears gas mask during vote to address new coronavirus

As the House voted on a $8.3 billion emergency measure to fund the administration's response to the coronavirus, Rep. Matt Gaetz wore a gas mask onto the floor.

abcnews.go.com

ya know, I don't think a gas mask is designed to prevent a virus from infecting someone. what a buffoon.

 

[woolfe9998]

Just saw a video of Trump asking an expert why they can't just use an ordinary flu vaccine for coronavirus. What an embarrassment...

 

[snoopy7548]

Just saw a video of Trump asking an expert why they can't just use an ordinary flu vaccine for coronavirus. What an embarrassment...

What a dumb question. Of course they can't use the flu vaccine for the Coronavirus; it would cause autism.