How many Americans deaths will Trump be directly responsible for due to COVID-45

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balloonshark

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For those of you not taking staying at home seriously, here's something the might make you think twice about living through a bout of Coronavirus.

The other part not mentioned in the article is these people are probably dying without their family around. Nobody wants to go to a hosipital during a pandemic and who's to say they can actually afford to give protection gear to the family members when they are already running low.
 

Maxima1

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The lying is leading to deaths.


"A man has died and his wife is under critical care after the couple, both in their 60s, ingested chloroquine phosphate," one of the anti-malaria drugs that President Trump has mentioned in recent days, according to Banner Health, the hospital system that treated both patients.

 

ElFenix

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It's odd. Washington state seems to have flattened the curve. New York must have had all kinds of cases of people with the virus before they started testing, or they do more testing. I suspect Florida, and Louisiana (NOLA, mardi gras) will be the next bombs to drop.
new york has by far the most robust testing program in the country.
 

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This isn't that odd. Washington outbreak was in a elderly home. Very limited population. NY has to deal with it running wild in a dense city of over 8 million.
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Even if it spreads to seattle it will be nothing like a place such as new york city or chicago... population density and life style. Very few americans live in a dense city and understand that life style is totally different than suburban.

It's odd. Washington state seems to have flattened the curve. New York must have had all kinds of cases of people with the virus before they started testing, or they do more testing. I suspect Florida, and Louisiana (NOLA, mardi gras) will be the next bombs to drop.
 
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41.5k confirmed cases in US, a jump of ~7k in less than a day.
Is trump still being a selfish cvnt about this? Wait, that's a silly question, he NEVER wasn't a selfish cvnt.

Someone compared him to King Cnut (of the "commanding the waves" myth).

A 'king cnut seems a fair descriptor.
 

hal2kilo

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This isn't that odd. Washington outbreak was in a elderly home. Very limited population. NY has to deal with it running wild in a dense city of over 8 million.
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Even if it spreads to seattle it will be nothing like a place such as new york city or chicago... population density and life style. Very few americans live in a dense city and understand that life style is totally different than suburban.
And we were able to contain it early apparently.
Look at the data for WA. Little over 30000 tested, and less than 2000 confirmed cases. I will count our blessings.
 
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TheVrolok

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Holy FUCK. Now he's rambling about how countries with malaria where antimalarials are used have a low incidence of Covid and suggesting this means it works against Covid? That's is insanely stupid and dangerous. Not to mention he's rambling about FDA approval is flat out wrong.
 
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Holy FUCK. Now he's rambling about how countries with malaria where antimalarials are used have a low incidence of Covid and suggesting this means it works against Covid? That's is insanely stupid and dangerous. Not to mention he's rambling about FDA approval is flat out wrong.

One of the signs of intelligence is simply recognizing you aren't an expert at everything and deferring to the experts in those areas. Or you can take the Trump approach and ramble on unintelligibly, in bad faith, and possibly getting people hurt because of your boundless narcissism.
 

esquared

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Holy FUCK. Now he's rambling about how countries with malaria where antimalarials are used have a low incidence of Covid and suggesting this means it works against Covid? That's is insanely stupid and dangerous. Not to mention he's rambling about FDA approval is flat out wrong.
I saw that. This moron needs to be stopped from making these claims. I wish Dr Fauci was there to take questions and refute this very dangerous claim on chloroquine.
Didn't some guy just die in the US from taking chloroquine? Not the deaths in Nigeria, although they could also be referenced in rebuttal to the orange menace's proclamations.

Found it:
 
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hal2kilo

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I saw that. This moron needs to be stopped from making these claims. I wish Dr Fauci was there to take questions and refute this very dangerous claim on chloroquine.
Didn't some guy just die in the US from taking chloroquine? Not the deaths in Nigeria, although they could also be referenced in rebuttal to the orange menace's proclamations.
Day 8 of 15, cool. We're saved in a week.

H'mm. Different guy dressed in Capt. Kangaroo outfit. Did they can the other Surgeon General?
 

NWRMidnight

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This is somewhat misleading. What is happening is new york; realizing the federal govt can't provide kits is paying a private company to test people. This is allowing them to perform 10,000+ tests a night. So what we have are more confirmed cases but not not a rapid ramp up in infection rate (mind you the infection rate is probably accelerating but we don't know that yet due to lack of tests).
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Can we say it again - If trump had just spent a couple of billion of dollars on test kits 6 weeks ago we would likely not be in this mess.

Trump has a lot of flaws but i'm not sure selfish whatever is the problem here. He is just plain stupid. Well he is not totally stupid after all he did get elected but then again i'm always shocked how many people are conned - anyway i'm getting off topic.

We do need strong leadership but i'm not sure we will ever find it while trump is in office. His ego is too large (that is a real problem) to turn things over to others or take advice and his skill level is well - i'm sure we could find someone who would do a worse job somewhere but i'm not sure whom.
Trump's problem is his priority is the himself, stock market, corporations, profits, and then maybe the citizens.
 

NWRMidnight

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It's odd. Washington state seems to have flattened the curve. New York must have had all kinds of cases of people with the virus before they started testing, or they do more testing. I suspect Florida, and Louisiana (NOLA, mardi gras) will be the next bombs to drop.
We haven't flattened anything because the focus has mainly been in 3 counties. Other counties numbers are increasing quickly. Example.. 5 days ago, we had no confirmed cases in Spokane County.. we now have 29 (up from 16 yesterday) , and this is with a partial stay at him rules in place (social distancing rules).. restaurants are pickup/delivery only, no groups larger than 50 people, all schools, entertainment, parks etc closed. has been for a week now. Problem is, there are tons of people ignoring such rules. 300 new cases and 15 more deaths since yesterday state wide. I guess what I am saying is we are about to climb with all other counties getting hit now.
 
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ElFenix

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I watched this in real time and IIRC, he was talking about the elderly Americans.
I think he effed up when he said that and meant to say "aging" Americans instead of Asian. Can't believe I am sticking up for this ignorant ssshole.

since we all need a good laugh:

 
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Mai72

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One of the signs of intelligence is simply recognizing you aren't an expert at everything and deferring to the experts in those areas. Or you can take the Trump approach and ramble on unintelligibly, in bad faith, and possibly getting people hurt because of your boundless narcissism.

It's his ego. He thinks he knows EVERYTHING. Reminds me of a few people I know .
 

cytg111

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well the tweet is his and definitely says asian. further, there was a follow up:


He is right, other countries may ease up on restrictions... when the implemented measures prove to work.. the US is displaying pure bred exponential growth with infections, if Trump lets this thing run wild you'll see the same death toll as in Italy upwards of 10%. Tell me I am wrong...
 
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