Hopefully those all the oldsters getting ready to die so we can reopen the movie theaters and golf courses. Memaw and Pawpa need to get out of the way of profits and the stock market.at the 10K mark now and the day isnt over.
Dude Atreus is like that other poster who only posted his opinion with no links and nothing to back up his outlandish opinioon, until he was called out and told to post links or quit posting, to which he wuit posting in that other thread! That is what Atreus is doing! Because he knows there are no links that support his premise!I don’t have to offer you anything. You’re making the claim, you back it up.
Are you saying that Obama’s response was similarly incompetent because he didn’t implement social distancing and should have? Just trying to make sure I’m getting the basis for your claims. Are there any other things you think he should have done or not done?
It’s not important what I think he did, you’re making the claim, not me.
I don’t have to offer you anything. You’re making the claim, you back it up.
Are you saying that Obama’s response was similarly incompetent because he didn’t implement social distancing and should have? Just trying to make sure I’m getting the basis for your claims. Are there any other things you think he should have done or not done?
Thats is the point...you would literally have to scout the web and you would find notrhing!I don't think Obama's response was incompetent in handling the outbreak. As far as I can tell he left the heavy lifting to the CDC, as well he should've. But if I were a hopeless partisan, I could scour the web for actions which I could interpret in the worst possible light, under the pretext of calling him incompetent.
I made no claim at the outset. I asked a question, whether Obama was responsible for the cost of the swine flu outbreak, since Trump was allegedly responsible for the C19 outbreak.
If your answer is no, then you need to say why. But you've avoided answering that directly.
I don't think Obama's response was incompetent in handling the outbreak. As far as I can tell he left the heavy lifting to the CDC, as well he should've. But if I were a hopeless partisan, I could scour the web for actions which I could interpret in the worst possible light, under the pretext of calling him incompetent.
I made no claim at the outset. I asked a question, whether Obama was responsible for the cost of the swine flu outbreak, since Trump was allegedly responsible for the C19 outbreak.
If your answer is no, then you need to say why. But you've avoided answering that directly.
Haha I’m very aware of what he’s trying to do. Basically he’s seeking to undermine criticism of Trump’s incompetence by insinuating it is due to partisanship and not that Trump has done anything wrong.Dude Atreus is like that other poster who only posted his opinion with no links and nothing to back up his outlandish opinioon, until he was called out and told to post links or quit posting, to which he wuit posting in that other thread! That is what Atreus is doing! Because he knows there are no links that support his premise!
...because of exactly what I just said. You're avoiding the question by asking for specifics you should offer me, not I you. If Obama is not to blame for 60 million infected by swine flu, but Trump is to blame for the 60,000 infected from C19, I'd like to know why that is.
Do you think Obama's response to swine flu was adequate, given the fact that 60 million Americans were infected and 10,000+ died? Why did Obama or other segments of government not implement social distancing as has happened under Trump, for example?
I'm not sure, as I don't recall much of what he did at all beyond declaring a national emergency in October 2009. What do you think he did?
I would love to answer this question but I need information from you first. I’ve asked you over and over and you just keep refusing. This is because you never actually wanted an answer to begin with, of course.
You have been aske to support your position with facts and links .......you fail to do so!...because of exactly what I just said. You're avoiding the question by asking for specifics you should offer me, not I you. If Obama is not to blame for 60 million infected by swine flu, but Trump is to blame for the 60,000 infected from C19, I'd like to know why that is.
Do you think Obama's response to swine flu was adequate, given the fact that 60 million Americans were infected and 10,000+ died? Why did Obama or other segments of government not implement social distancing as has happened under Trump, for example?
I'm not sure, as I don't recall much of what he did at all beyond declaring a national emergency in October 2009. What do you think he did?
I'm sorry but it's not incumbent upon me to make your case. If your answer is no, tell me why.
I'm sorry but it's not incumbent upon me to make your case. If your answer is no, tell me why.
nice try...you can`t reason with a child.....We’ve already made the case about trumps incompetence, you are the one that responded, “but Obama”. So it’s you that needs to show that Trumps response has been similar to Obama’s.
I remember when Obama called H1N1 the Republican hoax, claimed it was just like the common cold, and made plans to dump money into saving corporations not based in the US, all the while encouraging millions of loyal followers to go about their lives as usual. This was a right after he got done gutting government agencies for 3 years.
Oh, We all remember.
We’ve already made the case about trumps incompetence, you are the one that responded, “but Obama”. So it’s you that needs to show that Trumps response has been similar to Obama’s.
We’ve already made the case about trumps incompetence, you are the one that responded, “but Obama”. So it’s you that needs to show that Trumps response has been similar to Obama’s.
Your lack of reading comprehension is showing, probably a symptom of more serious cognitive functions.Was Obama responsible for the 10,000+ deaths which occurred during the swine flu outbreak?
Of course not.
Exactly. Atreus21 made the 'but Obama' argument and is now trying to demand everyone else disprove his argument, which is not how rational and logical discussion works.
You make a claim, you back it up.
It's no longer " indifference and incompetence".
Now Trump is actively calling for people to die.
I’m willing to accept his claim if he can support it. Obama’s response could have been incompetent and the media could have simply brushed it under the rug but he’s going to have to bring some evidence to the table. The fact that he has admitted that he wasn’t even aware of what Obama’s response was doesn’t give me high hopes though.
No, it wouldn't need to. The office that was responsible to prepare for a pandemic would still be in place, filled with competent people, plus the fact Obama (and every other president for that matter) would have listened to the knowledgeable experts and heeded their advise., But no, we have this sick fuck that thinks this is all a plot to cause him to loose the election.Given certain folks’ infatuation with all things Clinton and Obama, you bet your ass this thread would exist with a much more “Benghazi” tone.
Prove it or STFU!I remember when Obama called H1N1 the Republican hoax, claimed it was just like the common cold, and made plans to dump money into saving corporations not based in the US, all the while encouraging millions of loyal followers to go about their lives as usual. This was a right after he got done gutting government agencies for 3 years.
Oh, We all remember.
I remember when Obama called H1N1 the Republican hoax, claimed it was just like the common cold, and made plans to dump money into saving corporations not based in the US, all the while encouraging millions of loyal followers to go about their lives as usual. This was a right after he got done gutting government agencies for 3 years.
Oh, We all remember.