How many Americans deaths will Trump be directly responsible for due to COVID-45

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You have insanely low expectations and standards. Only explanation possible for thinking Donny is doing a good job here. Some of us expect competence but I guess you don’t.
So no actual content here. You should have just typed bla bla bla...It would have saved you some time
 
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Misjuding???? WTF!!!!! Ignoring all professionals from Doctor's to Scientists, advisers, allies, etc is not misjudging Calling it a hoax is not misjudging. Flat out lying is not misjudging. Pull your head out Trumps ass! And if you don't have it up his ass, pull it out of the ground and catch up to the real truth of what's happening. Honestly, your interpretation is like looking at the goofy mirrors at the carnival that distorts the image into something it's not.

Not sure where you are getting he is recovering nicely?? Oh wait.. you are talking about the polls.. tell you what, when you see daylight again.. go research Presidential polling numbers during a crisis. You will find that History has proven that even bad President's number improve, but they are short lived. They will tank when the shock of the crisis goes away.
What day did Fauci or Birx tell him to completely shut off the country?


And in response to that last part,Trump 2020 bitches! Your senile corrupt candidate couldn't fill a Starbucks with people. Now he's going to unseat Trump. lol
 

repoman0

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So no actual content here. You should have just typed bla bla bla...It would have saved you some time

Hordes of brain dead Trump supporters think the virus is a hoax because of his comments. Enough said. Because of his comments in his retarded rambling press conferences that you love so much, it will spread further and wider than it would have with a potato as president. Like I said, your expectations for competence are lower than a potato and therefore your opinion is of no value.
 

JSt0rm

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Hordes of brain dead Trump supporters think the virus is a hoax because of his comments. Enough said. Because of his comments in his retarded rambling press conferences that you love so much, it will spread further and wider than it would have with a potato as president. Like I said, your expectations for competence are lower than a potato and therefore your opinion is of no value.

fuck it. Let the chuds die in larger numbers. Let the red states fail from bad policy. This thing is the perfect Achilles heel for everything conservative.
 
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VRAMdemon

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A lot of Trump's followers don't expect the President to be a leader. They've been told repeatedly that the government doesn't do anything, or at least not anything good, so why should it be lead by him or anybody? They only expect him to be a figurehead. Which would be fine (at least, less unfine) if the Presidency were in fact solely a figurehead position. Unfortunately for all of us who have to live in reality, however, it's not. They seem to want someone who will be President for just the parts of the country that like him.

The governor of Michigan, when he does invoke her name, he refers to her as "Half-Whitmer". Trump - “I say, ‘Mike (Pence) … don’t call the woman in Michigan,” “You know what I say? If they don’t treat you right, don’t call.” “All I want them to do — very simple — I want them to be appreciative.”

Trump’s partisan temper tantrums on governors threaten to pull apart the country precisely when it needs to come together. And you can trace them directly to his hurt feelings. If Trump perceives someone to be critical of him or even his policies, he uses a flamethrower in response. His followers LOVE that bully ass dumb shit. He is a BABY in a suit. Now is not the time to be a child, Mr. President. Now is the time to put away childish antics. Be a man. I know it's almost impossible for you to do so. You can begin by respecting this woman. Her name is Gretchen Whitmer. The people of Michigen don’t need presidential name-calling. They don’t need disrespect. They don’t need the most powerful person in the nation, whom the state of MIchigan helped elect to his job. Refusing to return the governor’s calls and acting like a pouting child waiting to be asked nicely before he shares his life saving toys. What a total POS
 
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NWRMidnight

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By actions. Navy ships are deployed. The feds built a 2900 bed temporary hospital in NY in 3 days. Many American companies are making PPE and ventilators. Testing is increasing exponentially every day.

I'm so glad Trump took the bs narrative away from the corrupt media by having his press conferences.
Obviously you don't understand exponential math. The virus demonstrates exponential math. Manufacturing is not in any shape or form exponential. It will take 100 days to get 100,000 ventilators (1 manufactured ventilator does not create 2, then 4, etc). 100 days will be to late, we needed them 2 weeks ago. The rest of your statement is pure lies and trolling
 
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HomerJS

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He was late on the seriousness true.
Never once trashed medical workers. In fact he had been very complimentary. So that's complete bs.
He said specifically he wasn't making charges against the specific hospital but asked the reporter yesterday to look into it themselves concerning why a hospital went from needing 10k to 300k masks and still needing more. So complete bs again.

And last but not least of your bs he said they sent 4k ventilators to NY and they weren't using them. Regardless they have 4k ventilators that were sent by the fed gov.
I will quote him he said masks are "going out the back door". That is an accusation of theft and who would be the suspects?

Medical workers. They are the ones maintaining their hospitals supplies of masks.

Anything else you need?

BTW - Heathcare workers figured out they are being trashed...
 
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Obviously you don't understand exponential math. The virus demonstrates exponential math. Manufacturing is not in any shape or form exponential. It will take 100 days to get 100,000 ventilators (1 manufactured ventilator does not create 2, then 4, etc). 100 days will be to late, we needed them 2 weeks ago. The rest of your statement is pure lies and trolling
So you're saying that Obama administration should have left a bigger stockpile of ventilators? Or that the day the first case was reported in Wuhan in December he should have shut down Ford or GM so they could start making ventilators?
 

HomerJS

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Oh so he misjudged the severity and that's all you can keep bringing back up. Its caught a lot of countries off guard.

He's recovered nicely and is kicking ass. Simple as that.
Misjudging is completely different from ignoring the advice of experts.

If Fauci gave Trump an option of ignoring it and Trump took it that would be an error in judgment.
 
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I will quote him he said masks are "going out the back door". That is an accusation of theft and who would be the suspects?

Medical workers. They are the ones maintaining their hospitals supplies of masks.

Anything else you need?
We're in a crisis. Sorry if he hurts one particular hospitals feelings. He should be asking where 300k masks went.
 

repoman0

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fuck it. Let the chuds die in larger numbers. Let the red states fail from bad policy. This thing is the perfect Achilles heel for everything conservative.

Yeah I don’t have any sympathy for degenerate chuds at this point but they can still spread it to people who don’t deserve it. These losers who defend the idiot that cost us six weeks, likely hundreds of thousands of deaths and an economic calamity affect everyone. If we could keep it to chuds fucking themselves like they usually do then I really wouldn’t care.
 

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So you're saying that Obama administration should have left a bigger stockpile of ventilators? Or that the day the first case was reported in Wuhan in December he should have shut down Ford or GM so they could start making ventilators?
I suggest you stop and actually educate yourself:


The answer to your last question has already been stated. Pay attention.
 
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alien42

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How? Specifics please.

are you kidding? he initially called the pandemic a democratic and media hoax while saying that we would have zero cases due to the great job he is doing. he said the virus just go away in April like a miracle. the federal government should be taking the lead here, not throwing it to the states to compete with each other, other countries and the federal government themselves. every single press conference he has giving has been filled with lies, every single one. he will not work with governor's who don't praise him. he invoked the Defense Protection Act but didn't actually enforce it for around a week. he is blaming healthcare workers for hoarding PPE.

and that's just getting started, now you provide specifics about the good job he is doing.
 
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Amused

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Yesterday was the first day the exponential growth failed to meet or exceed my estimates meaning growth has SLOWED!!! Remarkably so.

We should have hit 200,000 by yesterday. We missed that by a wide margin.

Case increases seem to have thankfully stalled at the 19-20 thousand a day mark.

We'll see if this trend continues, but maybe, just maybe, this shit IS working in spite of so many dumbasses not social distancing.
 
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HomerJS

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We're in a crisis. Sorry if he hurts one particular hospitals feelings. He should be asking where 300k masks went.
Is there ANY evidence hospital works are stealing masks? You act like this is the first time Trump has made unfounded accusations. He's trying to setup a false narrative when people die due to lack of equipment. "The hospitals took it"

If you wondered by Republicans see the virus from Democrats, it's shit like this.
 

Roger Wilco

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Yesterday was the first day the exponential growth failed to meet or exceed my estimates meaning growth has SLOWED!!! Remarkably so.

We should have hit 200,000 by yesterday. We missed that by a wide margin.

Case increases seem to have thankfully stalled at the 19-20 thousand a day mark.

We'll see if this trend continues, but maybe, just maybe, this shit IS working in spite of so many dumbasses not social distancing.

I believe we already have 30,000 in the last 24 hours.
 

Amused

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I believe we already have 30,000 in the last 24 hours.

Yes, I see the surge of 11,000 new cases this morning.

Another curious question: Is 19-21,000 tests a day currently the limit of daily available tests on average? Has the case count stalled because of test availability and shipments? Is that why we seem to hit the limit midday and then new case reports drop off?

Are they testing as fast as they get new tests in?

I REALLY want it to be slowed for real.

Too soon to hope, I guess.
 
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Atari2600

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We're in a crisis. Sorry if he hurts one particular hospitals feelings. He should be asking where 300k masks went.

Are you serious?

Do:
(1) nurses (outside surgery) or
(2) doctors (outside surgery) or
(3) porters or
(4) maintenance crews or
(5) cleaning staff
normally wear N95 masks day to day when there are no infectious diseases rampant throughout the hospital?
Of course not.

How stupid would you have to be to not realise the use of PPE jumps far beyond normal use when in the middle of fighting an epidemic or pandemic?
 
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NWRMidnight

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Yesterday was the first day the exponential growth failed to meet or exceed my estimates meaning growth has SLOWED!!! Remarkably so.

We should have hit 200,000 by yesterday. We missed that by a wide margin.

Case increases seem to have thankfully stalled at the 19-20 thousand a day mark.

We'll see if this trend continues, but maybe, just maybe, this shit IS working in spite of so many dumbasses not social distancing.

I wish it was true, but all it is showing is we have maxed out our capabilities of testing. Either we are running short of tests (this is happening in Washington State where I live), or we have reached the max processing capacities of being able to process each test for results. Or there is just a delay in areas getting results in. Washington state was updating them every single day, but as of an hour ago, they have not updated for 3 days, as an example.
 

Atari2600

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I wish it was true, but all it is showing is we have maxed out our capabilities of testing. Either we are running short of tests (this is happening in Washington State where I live), or we have reached the max processing capacities of being able to process each test for results. Or there is just a delay in areas getting results in. Washington state was updating them every single day, but as of an hour ago, they have not updated for 3 days, as an example.

If they supplied the number of tests performed alongside the number of cases determined, it'd be very useful information.

Of course, the white house and the orange clown inside of it would not want that information to become public.
 

NWRMidnight

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If they supplied the number of tests performed alongside the number of cases determined, it'd be very useful information.

Of course, the white house and the orange clown inside of it would not want that information to become public.
Washington State shows confirmed cases, deaths, and total tested: https://www.doh.wa.gov/emergencies/coronavirus (now if they would just update the numbers)

I know the CDC doesn't do it, which is shameful.
 
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