How many are getting an Apple watch?

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Midwayman

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The one i'd want is absurdly expensive. Base price is about my limit on a wearable with how fast they'll go obsolete. Should have picked up one of the $88 android watches this xmas.
 

bigboxes

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Not that I'm in the market for one right now, but any watch out there has to free from platform association. That is the manufacturer has to make sure there is support for Android, Windows Phone and iOS. I'm sick of niche products where you are told how, where and what you can use said product for. No thanks to closed ecosystems. Also, wireless charging with a universal wired charging method (microUSB or USB 3.1 type C).
 
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cmdrdredd

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I'll just wait for the android wear app instead. There's a rumor that Google is looking into bringing android wear to iOS.
 

Commodus

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I just don't see how the Apple Watch is that much better than what we already have on the market? It's not like it even looks better than what we already have.

A few things Apple is counting on:

Materials and design. There are a couple of reasonably nice-looking smartwatches out there right now, and more on the way (Moto 360, Watch Urbane, Huawei Watch), but a lot of smartwatches merely make vague gestures toward quality rather than following up. Some geeks are blanching at the prices, but they forget: polished stainless steel costs money. Gold costs money. Soft leather costs money. Apple's aiming at the people who wouldn't be caught dead wearing an eyesore like the Sony Smartwatch 3 (in standard trim, anyway) or Samsung Gear S.

Apps, apps, apps. Ever tried to use apps on an Android Wear or Pebble watch? To be blunt, it's a pain in the ass. They're buried away and seldom sophisticated. Apple, meanwhile, is making them a core part of the experience. They're much easier to find and get much more attention than they seem to get elsewhere, both in capability and discovery. Apple will have a dedicated store for watch-friendly apps, for example -- Google is mostly hoping you'll find Android Wear content by dumb luck.

Input. People forget how important this is. Android Wear is inherently limited by its dependence on basic touch for almost everything -- you can't have contextual menus, and it's a pain to scroll through large lists. Apple seems to have solved those with Force Touch and the crown. You can have genuinely broad interface features and long lists without cluttering things up.
 

WelshBloke

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A few things Apple is counting on:

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Some geeks are blanching at the prices, but they forget: polished stainless steel costs money. Gold costs money. Soft leather costs money.

It's not so much 'blanching at' more like 'laughing at'.

A grand or so of gold adds $10000 to the price?

I laugh at them for asking it and I'll laugh harder at anyone paying for it.

I think I know what they are counting on there...
 

cmdrdredd

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A few things Apple is counting on:

Materials and design. There are a couple of reasonably nice-looking smartwatches out there right now, and more on the way (Moto 360, Watch Urbane, Huawei Watch), but a lot of smartwatches merely make vague gestures toward quality rather than following up. Some geeks are blanching at the prices, but they forget: polished stainless steel costs money. Gold costs money. Soft leather costs money. Apple's aiming at the people who wouldn't be caught dead wearing an eyesore like the Sony Smartwatch 3 (in standard trim, anyway) or Samsung Gear S.

Apps, apps, apps. Ever tried to use apps on an Android Wear or Pebble watch? To be blunt, it's a pain in the ass. They're buried away and seldom sophisticated. Apple, meanwhile, is making them a core part of the experience. They're much easier to find and get much more attention than they seem to get elsewhere, both in capability and discovery. Apple will have a dedicated store for watch-friendly apps, for example -- Google is mostly hoping you'll find Android Wear content by dumb luck.

Input. People forget how important this is. Android Wear is inherently limited by its dependence on basic touch for almost everything -- you can't have contextual menus, and it's a pain to scroll through large lists. Apple seems to have solved those with Force Touch and the crown. You can have genuinely broad interface features and long lists without cluttering things up.

Apple watches STILL look ugly even in gold. They didn't do anything differently, just offered some exotic fancy sounding bracelet and coated it with gold so they can charge $17k for it. It's still square.

No matter what else Apple claims they are trying to do, your other points will always be ignored because they charge too much for an ugly watch that can't last more than a day. People willing to spend that much on a watch will have a Rolex or Breitling. People who are looking for a smart watch probably aren't going to be willing to spend what Apple is asking.
 
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lifeblood

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Did people really think apple can wave its magic wand and sprinkle some pixie dust and have week long battery life?

A week? No. More than a day? Maybe even two days? Not this year and probably not next year, but hopefully after that. I am frequently nowhere near a power outlet for extended periods so I need it to last more than 18 hours. I'm in no hurry to get a smartwatch, so I'll just sit and watch and wait.

Also, if a company says it has an 18 hour life than it usually means it has a 16-17 battery life when its new but which drops to 12 hours in a few months.
 

Radeon962

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Absolutely zero desire for a smart watch at this point.

Had a Moto 360 for a day and really see no use for it at this point.

Cool technology but no need for it.

Luckily I picked it up cheap from Swappa and then just resold it.

I'm running an iPhone 6 Plus right now but have no desire to hey the iWatch.
 

WelshBloke

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A week? No. More than a day? Maybe even two days? Not this year and probably not next year, but hopefully after that. I am frequently nowhere near a power outlet for extended periods so I need it to last more than 18 hours. I'm in no hurry to get a smartwatch, so I'll just sit and watch and wait.

Also, if a company says it has an 18 hour life than it usually means it has a 16-17 battery life when its new but which drops to 12 hours in a few months.

It has to be linked to an iphone so if you are away from a socket for extended periods then it's not for you.
 

Imported

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Apple watches STILL look ugly even in gold. They didn't do anything differently, just offered some exotic fancy sounding bracelet and coated it with gold so they can charge $17k for it. It's still square.

No matter what else Apple claims they are trying to do, your other points will always be ignored because they charge too much for an ugly watch that can't last more than a day. People willing to spend that much on a watch will have a Rolex or Breitling. People who are looking for a smart watch probably aren't going to be willing to spend what Apple is asking.

It looks uglier in gold.. and bolded truth. I'd rather have a Rolex/Breitling/Omega/IWC/etc. on my wrist than a $10k Apple Watch.
 

ponyo

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No interest.

I'll wait and see. I'm pretty sure you're not going to see Apple Watch 2 next year. I expect Apple to release a new watch every 2-3 years and not yearly cycle like the iPhone and iPad.

:biggrin: at the gold watch price. Shows money can't buy taste.
 

touchstone

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if i had an iphone i would totally get the sports version, would be great to have all the features they showed and it would encourage me to run and go to the gym more. but i don't have an iphone... i do have an ipad though. I wonder if you can pair the watch with an ipad?
 

HN

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if i had an iphone i would totally get the sports version, would be great to have all the features they showed and it would encourage me to run and go to the gym more. but i don't have an iphone... i do have an ipad though. I wonder if you can pair the watch with an ipad?

i imagine it could. but then what are you gonna do? strap the ipad to you like capt. america's shield when you go out running or lifting weights, bro?
 

AznAnarchy99

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Watches IMO are for fashion. Smart Watches are not that for me. If I had the money I would get a Rolex or a Piquet.
 

Imp

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It's still a watch (i.e. strap on a wrist) and battery life hasn't reached at least a few weeks, so, not for me.
 

Mopetar

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definitely be interesting to look back on this thread 1 quarter/1 year after release to see how foretelling this might be.

It won't be.

This crowd is not representative of the general market so trying to use this to judge interest or demand is pointless. Many of us have stated that we have no interest in (smart) watches at all and even fewer are interested in luxury models on top of that.

I'm not even sure what the predictions are for sales, but I imagine that Apple will do well because it's Apple. They put more thought into what they're making than most and it seems like they're definitely hedging on part of the sales appeal as having a status symbol whereas other companies seemingly just focused on the technological aspect.

They might only sell a million watches, but when a lot of them are $1000 - $10000 sales, that turns into a sizable chunk of money in a hurry.
 

Commodus

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Apple watches STILL look ugly even in gold. They didn't do anything differently, just offered some exotic fancy sounding bracelet and coated it with gold so they can charge $17k for it. It's still square.

No matter what else Apple claims they are trying to do, your other points will always be ignored because they charge too much for an ugly watch that can't last more than a day. People willing to spend that much on a watch will have a Rolex or Breitling. People who are looking for a smart watch probably aren't going to be willing to spend what Apple is asking.

You're making a couple of sketchy assumptions here: first, that most people would find it ugly, and next that people looking for a smartwatch wouldn't spend what Apple is asking.

Some of the best-known watches (like the Cartier Tank) are square, and I think it has a certain minimalist appeal. Certainly beats most of what's out there for smartwatches right now. As for price? Well, if pricing were the big factor, the market would be flooded with Pebbles and Android Wear devices... but it's not (720,000 Android Wear watches in 9 months, 1m Pebbles in a year). As much as some folks may loathe to admit it, Apple will probably sell more watches in one weekend than some of its larger competitors have managed in their entire histories.

I do agree that Apple faces an uphill battle courting the super-luxury crowd, but I suspect it'll find enough of them for a small-quantity product like this. When you can afford to drop $10,000 on any watch, you probably don't mind replacing or supplementing what you have (this is my weekend watch, this is my formal occasion watch...).
 

mmntech

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The Apple Watch is one of the first Apple products in a long time that I genuinely have zero interest in. I wouldn't pay $350 for it. Certainly not $10,000 for the gold one. You can buy a very nice Rolex or Cartier watch for that, and it's going to last you a hell of a lot longer.
 

cmdrdredd

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Dec 12, 2001
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Watches IMO are for fashion. Smart Watches are not that for me. If I had the money I would get a Rolex or a Piquet.

Yeah, I like the smart watch idea but there is always a flaw with them thus far. Square and ugly or a black strip at the bottom of a round screen. I have a citizen watch, nothing special but it looks like a Mercedes next to these smart watch designs. As a bonus it charges off of light so no battery to deal with.

Actually this leads me to something else. These watches should also be water resistant to submerge and swim with. Something I appreciate my watch for when I do wear it. I can tell the time without grabbing my phone.
 

cmdrdredd

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You're making a couple of sketchy assumptions here: first, that most people would find it ugly, and next that people looking for a smartwatch wouldn't spend what Apple is asking.

Some of the best-known watches (like the Cartier Tank) are square, and I think it has a certain minimalist appeal. Certainly beats most of what's out there for smartwatches right now. As for price? Well, if pricing were the big factor, the market would be flooded with Pebbles and Android Wear devices... but it's not (720,000 Android Wear watches in 9 months, 1m Pebbles in a year). As much as some folks may loathe to admit it, Apple will probably sell more watches in one weekend than some of its larger competitors have managed in their entire histories.

I do agree that Apple faces an uphill battle courting the super-luxury crowd, but I suspect it'll find enough of them for a small-quantity product like this. When you can afford to drop $10,000 on any watch, you probably don't mind replacing or supplementing what you have (this is my weekend watch, this is my formal occasion watch...).

Most people do find it ugly haven't you been paying attention to the forums today? It's not a good looking watch. The Moto360 looks much better than Apple's design no matter how you slice it. Android Wear didn't take off because smart watches are not popular in the first place. Apple isn't going to change that, not at $1000 a pop for the ones that have bands worth using.
 
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