How many are getting an Apple watch?

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WelshBloke

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Jan 12, 2005
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Most people do find it ugly haven't you been paying attention to the forums today? It's not a good looking watch. The Moto360 looks much better than Apple's design no matter how you slice it. Android Wear didn't take off because smart watches are not popular in the first place. Apple isn't going to change that, not at $1000 a pop for the ones that have bands worth using.
TBH all of the smartwatchs look pretty fugly, not just this one. (admittedly some look less fugly than others)


I guess thats what's going to happen if you have to have a big battery and a touch screen interface.
 

AznAnarchy99

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Dec 6, 2004
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Yeah, I like the smart watch idea but there is always a flaw with them thus far. Square and ugly or a black strip at the bottom of a round screen. I have a citizen watch, nothing special but it looks like a Mercedes next to these smart watch designs. As a bonus it charges off of light so no battery to deal with.

Actually this leads me to something else. These watches should also be water resistant to submerge and swim with. Something I appreciate my watch for when I do wear it. I can tell the time without grabbing my phone.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/9/8176049/apple-watch-edition-vs-rolex-benjamin-clymer-interview
 

poofyhairguy

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Nov 20, 2005
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Watches IMO are for fashion.

They were. With a smartwatch suddenly that timepiece gets really functional. Android Wear is the biggest upgrade to my smartphone since 3G or flash on the camera. I use mine almost every hour of every day, it is the perfect extension of my smartphone.

With that said, it is hard to explain why it is so awesome. Once you use it cooking or grocery shopping or commuting does it really shine.

That is why I have high hopes for the Apple watch as a fashion Trojan Horse for the segment. Because it will be a status symbol.
 

Commodus

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Oct 9, 2004
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Most people do find it ugly haven't you been paying attention to the forums today? It's not a good looking watch. The Moto360 looks much better than Apple's design no matter how you slice it. Android Wear didn't take off because smart watches are not popular in the first place. Apple isn't going to change that, not at $1000 a pop for the ones that have bands worth using.

I'm not going to trust a forum full of techies to decide what's fashionable. Remember, this is the same crowd that likes to boast about light-up PC case windows, and can't imagine why anyone would care about things like aesthetics or ease of use. The real test is whether or not normal, non-tech people (or at least, genuinely fashion-conscious tech people) like the Watch. There's no guarantee that they will, but a forum like this definitely isn't a valid straw poll.

And when it comes to Android Wear... smartwatch popularity is a factor, but I'd add that most Android Wear watches so far are a bit embarrassing. The original G Watch? The Gear Live? Smartwatch 3? Even the G Watch R comes across as LG phone engineers trying to imagine what a conventional watch looks like. It wasn't until this year that we saw some particularly nice ones, and the pricing isn't available for those yet.

Also, for ref: plenty of Apple Watch wristbands look good under $1,000. Not that they're cheap, but a $649 model with a classic buckle or Milanese loop is pretty spiffy in my opinion.
 

Raduque

Lifer
Aug 22, 2004
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I've only seen a few smart watches in the wild, other than my Motorola 360, and every one has been a square one. I think most were the G Watch when it went on fire sale for $130 a while back.

I'm really waiting for the Hauwei Watch pricing to come out. It looks very very nice. Most people already have some kind of "What is that? That's so cool! Only $250! Wow, I thought it would be about $500!" reaction to my M360.

I will be selling my 360 (or gifting it to an Android using family member) when the Hauwei Watch comes out. The only issue I have with the HW is it's not inductive charging, it uses pogo pins. I'm uncertain it's going to have the same kind of water resistence as the Motorola 360.
 

ponyo

Lifer
Feb 14, 2002
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iWatch will be a good test of Apple marketing. People say Apple fans will buy any crap with Apple logo. I don't think that's true. Will Apple be able to maintain the sales momentum after the initial wave of gotta have it first early adaptors?

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the negative impression of the iWatch from the forum members here. We correctly predicted success and failures of multiple devices the past couple years. The only miss I can remember is the original iPad. We were all wrong on that and made fun of it but quickly changed our opinion once we tried it.
 

Eug

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Mar 11, 2000
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Actually even for the original iPad some of us felt it would be successful, albeit not as quickly adopted as it was. I did think the original iPad's hardware was inadequate, and that proved to be true. I bought the iPad 2, which had much, much better specs.

In contrast, I just can't see why I'd want to get an Apple Watch. The previews are totally uninteresting.
 

Commodus

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I've only seen a few smart watches in the wild, other than my Motorola 360, and every one has been a square one. I think most were the G Watch when it went on fire sale for $130 a while back.

I'm really waiting for the Hauwei Watch pricing to come out. It looks very very nice. Most people already have some kind of "What is that? That's so cool! Only $250! Wow, I thought it would be about $500!" reaction to my M360.

I will be selling my 360 (or gifting it to an Android using family member) when the Hauwei Watch comes out. The only issue I have with the HW is it's not inductive charging, it uses pogo pins. I'm uncertain it's going to have the same kind of water resistence as the Motorola 360.

I'd check Huawei's pricing before jumping in. A lot of people seem to have the notion that upscale Android Wear watches like this will only be mildly more expensive than a Moto 360 or G Watch R. Er, not necessarily. You could easily be looking at $500-plus for Huawei's gear (at least, in certain trim levels) or the LG Watch Urbane.
 

Exophase

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No way am I buying a glorified phone peripheral that costs more than my unlocked phone did.

Maybe around $100 I'd start to consider it.
 

Midwayman

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No way am I buying a glorified phone peripheral that costs more than my unlocked phone did.

Maybe around $100 I'd start to consider it.

FWIW a halfway descent build quality quartz watch usually costs more than that.
 

poofyhairguy

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I'd check Huawei's pricing before jumping in. A lot of people seem to have the notion that upscale Android Wear watches like this will only be mildly more expensive than a Moto 360 or G Watch R. Er, not necessarily. You could easily be looking at $500-plus for Huawei's gear (at least, in certain trim levels) or the LG Watch Urbane.
Which makes sense. We are still gen 1 with Wear.

When we get gen 2, with frankly more appropriate chips instead of left over stuff, it should open up more. Right now the category is very risky. That is why a HTC is doing VR instead.
 

holden j caufield

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They should make a wireless charging qi watch or charge it wirelessly off of the phone itself should be an option for the user.
 
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Zodiark1593

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I have to agree that they are disconnected with the target market but strongly disagree with your last statement.

There is no possible situation where it is acceptable during a work meeting / class / meal / driving a car / social event to dig into your pocket, look at your crotch, smile, then dig into your pocket again and resume whatever you were doing before your leg vibrated. The phone experience will NEVER truely work socially. It is always a strong disturbance to you and those around you.

The only real solution is to make the interaction seamless, such as with a wearable. A 5 inch or 6 inch screen just is always going to be a social disturbance. And with an aging population (needs larger text) wanting more and more utility (needs more content per screen), we aren't going back to 4 inch screens. And we ceratainly aren't going to phones with the 3 inch or less screens that would be needed to make emails, texts, notifications, etc. seamless.

The problem though is with smartwatches requiring phones. Now you need a $500 watch AND a $500 phone. You need to carry two chargers around with you (unless Apple makes their next iPhone charge with a magnet too). You need to carry two bulky devices to the gym or while running that half-marathon discussed by Apple. Requiring the phone pretty much destroys the utility of the smartwatch. The negatives now outweigh the positives.

Give me a smartwatch with just enough brains to display notifications, and just enough battery life to turn on wi-fi once a minute for a brief moment to get new notifications. That is it. Nothing else. That would be a killer smartwatch. One item to carry with you. One item to charge. One quick glance to your wrist will let you know that your next meeting has been moved and no one else will be disturbed by you getting this notification. Email, texts, meeting updates, heart rate monitoring, etc, all just a quick socially-acceptable glance away.
I wouldn't mind a dumb terminal concept for watches. Normally just tells time, but connects to your smartphone via Bluetooth, and when in active use the phone in your pocket renders a specialized low-res UI, streams it to your smartwatch, and receives touch commands from the watch. The smartwatch itself wouldn't need much more than an ARM11 (or a Cortex-M), video decode, and Bluetooth hardware.

This idea would keep the watch's SoC very low power to hopefully achieve more than a day of battery life, the battery impact on the phone should be negligible due to the low SoC load, and most importantly, bring prices down.

You know, when I think smartwatches, I'm tempted to think Poke' Gear.
 
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cronos

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I wouldn't mind a dumb terminal concept for watches. Normally just tells time, but connects to your smartphone via Bluetooth, and when in active use the phone in your pocket renders a specialized low-res UI, streams it to your smartwatch, and receives touch commands from the watch. The smartwatch itself wouldn't need much more than an ARM11 (or a Cortex-M), video decode, and Bluetooth hardware.

This idea would keep the watch's SoC very low power to hopefully achieve more than a day of battery life, the battery impact on the phone should be negligible due to the low SoC load, and most importantly, bring prices down.

Exactly. This is why I said above that a proprietary OS might work better for a smartwatch instead of a more 'tethered' solution that is too highly dependent on a certain OS like Android Wear and Apple Watch.
 

lopri

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Jul 27, 2002
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I would totally buy the gold one if it had a different name. Apple Watch "Edition" is a huge turn-off for a product aspiring to be a luxury. I kind of get the thought process behind the naming, but that grosses me out even more.

That "Edition" title is bound to give births to new jokes, starting with an obvious ("xxx edition"). I thought Apple had learned the lesson from the iPhone 5C.

 

openwheel

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Apr 30, 2012
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I will keep wearing my Pepsi and Planet Ocean long after Apple watch become drawer queen garbage.
 

rudeguy

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Dec 27, 2001
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They won't even release the full specs on the thing yet.

What is known so far is 18 hour battery life, retina display and dimensions very similar to the Gear S. I see absolutely no innovation here. Apple might as well have just said "Its a Gear S that works on Apple". Too bad. I was really hoping Apple would push the envelope with features or at least size. But its basically an Android Wear device that works on iPhone and costs twice as much.

Pass.
 

Achtung!

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Just a few facts on the Apple Watch:

  • Most of the internals are made by Samsung and LG.
    1. Display is made by LG.
    2. S1 processor is made by Samsung.
    3. RAM is made by Samsung and SK Hynix.
  • Apple predicts "millions of sales". I highly doubt it will sell that well considering smartwatches are niche.
  • The Apple Watch is way too overpriced for the functionality it offers. No heart rate sensor?

My opinions:
1. Personally I won't buy it
2. I think it looks solid but offers little functionality
3. It's gimmicky.
 

rudeguy

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Dec 27, 2001
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Just a few facts on the Apple Watch:

  • Most of the internals are made by Samsung and LG.
    1. Display is made by LG.
    2. S1 processor is made by Samsung.
    3. RAM is made by Samsung and SK Hynix.
  • Apple predicts "millions of sales". I highly doubt it will sell that well considering smartwatches are niche.
  • The Apple Watch is way too overpriced for the functionality it offers. No heart rate sensor?

My opinions:
1. Personally I won't buy it
2. I think it looks solid but offers little functionality
3. It's gimmicky.

It has a heart rate sensor.

It will still sell millions even if its nothing special and overpriced. Its actually par for the course with Apple. Release a 1st gen product that is feature stripped in order to boost 2nd gen sales.
 

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So the more I read about the iWatch and read through posts over at MacRumors, I'm convinced that the watch part of it isn't even the center piece for Apple. It's nothing but a vehicle for selling ridiculously priced bands to people.
 

AznAnarchy99

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Dec 6, 2004
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So the more I read about the iWatch and read through posts over at MacRumors, I'm convinced that the watch part of it isn't even the center piece for Apple. It's nothing but a vehicle for selling ridiculously priced bands to people.





:wub:
 

Ravynmagi

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I'm passing on this for the usual reasons.

1. Looks ugly.
2. Battery life still not good enough.
3. Not yet convinced this is better experience than pulling my phone out of my pocket.
 

vi edit

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I'm convinced it is a better experience than pulling a phone out, but I'm not convinced it's $350+ for the convenience...less the inconvenience of having to charge daily. But that's not an iWatch unique constraint, that's any major branded wearable up to this point.
 
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