How many calories would you say is a fairly good daily workout?

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queequeg99

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I don't quite agree with this. You burn more calories if you have more muscle mass, so it's quite beneficial to condition those muscles as well.

He should be able to do both. If he works out at a gym, he can begin each workout with some cardio and then transition to weights. I typically run outside (the machines drive me insane), come back to the gym, and do some circuit training on the free weights for another 1/2 hour or so. I also look for reasons to get off my ass and do things. When I need to go downtown, I walk instead of taking the street car. When I get a sandwich at work, I typically walk an extra mile to get to the store. Small things like that add up really quickly.

Massive calorie cutting is difficult and, unless the few calories you do ingest are very high quality (i.e. no empty sugar calories) and are relatively spaced out throughout the day, you'll find yourself really dragging as the day progresses. So be careful.

On April 11, I weighed almost 230 lbs (I'm 6 ft tall). I started running a few miles a day, following by the circuit training. My total workout was about an hour when I began. Mon-Fri, my breakfasts were a couple of apples and a cup of low fat yogurt spaced out over a couple of hours. Lunch was a six inch Subway sandwich.

I was a bit more relaxed for dinner because we like to have a sit-down dinner with our kids. But my wife is a dietitian and was more than willing to change our menu to something that had a relatively high protein/carb ratio and was relatively low fat. Take your time with larger meals. Drinking lots of water helps control portion size. If I ever really get hungry between meals, a cup of skim milk and a small handful of walnuts and almonds will almost always tide me over until the next meal. I found that if my little snack didn't have some fats or protein, I would be hungry 30 minutes later.

This isn't a starvation diet by any means. But it does offer me a very set routine which isn't hard to stick to. For me, creating that sort of routine was essential (and still is).

On weekends I would relax a bit as well. We could occasionally eat out on Saturday night (the only night I allowed myself to consume any alcohol for a few months).

It's mid September now and I am in the mid-high 180s and I'm now in maintenance mode. I do cardio for about 90 minutes a day without really thinking about it (mostly swimming but occasionally cycling). I developed a nasty shin splint so my running/circuit training has taken a hit. I still try to do some strength training a couple of times a week but that probably won't start up full time until I can run again.

Best of all, as long as I don't get too crazy, I can have a few IPAs on non-work nights without any worries.
 

Kyteland

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2.7mph? are you ...walking? is that even working out?

You have to start somewhere. If you're out of shape you don't just start running marathons. If it's a good workout for him then that's exactly what he needs to be doing until he can ramp it up a bit.
 

darkxshade

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I don't quite agree with this. You burn more calories if you have more muscle mass, so it's quite beneficial to condition those muscles as well.


You lose weight faster on cardio only because your body is not sparing any muscle due to lack of resistance training.

Last summer, I did moderate cardio... about 20 miles a week and due to a few injuries took 2 months off from lifting... I dropped to 155 from 170.

This summer, I'm training for a marathon running upwards of 50 miles a week and doing resistance training on top of that. I eat roughly the same amount of calories if not less... guess what, I'm still 170 lbs. I am leaner though.
 

Pantlegz

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Weight loss is a pretty simple formula: Cal in<=Cal out.

Not even close... For some people it may be more correct that for others but either way macro ratios make a huge difference for most people. I happen to be VERY carb sensitive and eating too many regardless of the caloric intake will put my body in a fat storage mode and there's no amount of working-out to counteract this. Most anyone can eat a caloric surplus and lose weight as long as they control their carb intake. A perfect example of this would be keto style diets, while this isn't for everyone and it is a pretty extreme example of cal in < cal out being too simple for most people.
 

Locut0s

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Yeah I've been talking with another person on these forums about changing my diet. Basically the last time(s) I've lost the weight I've done so mainly with portion control and cutting out the snacking. Otherwise I've maintained a back to so-so diet. I want to slowly transition this to a healthy diet but it will be hard and I'll have to do it over a long period. I know I can loose the weight without making major changes besides portion control and snacking as I've done it before. This isn't to say I'll be healthier necessarily but I'll look a lot better and be a lot happier which is 8/10ths of my problem already.

People on this subforum may not know but I have SERIOUS problems with depression and anxiety (like not suicidal but not too too far off). If you are curious you can read about it hereand here. I'm going to get help for that but a large portion of the reason for losing the weight is for my mental well being. The health aspect of it I'll take on more slowly.
 

M0oG0oGaiPan

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just consider it a lifelong change. ease into it and it'll be easier to stick to. might be a good idea to write out a shopping list beforehand and stick to it so you don't start grabbing hohos or something. Eat out less and cook some meals ahead of time. Food scale might be helpful because you can get an idea of what portion sizes should look like. Or you can look up an image on google. http://www.wisegeek.com/what-does-200-calories-look-like.htm
 

Locut0s

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just consider it a lifelong change. ease into it and it'll be easier to stick to. might be a good idea to write out a shopping list beforehand and stick to it so you don't start grabbing hohos or something. Eat out less and cook some meals ahead of time. Food scale might be helpful because you can get an idea of what portion sizes should look like. Or you can look up an image on google. http://www.wisegeek.com/what-does-200-calories-look-like.htm

HoHos Hmm? I've heard of these legendary snacks but as a Canadian I have yet to try one. I'm sure you can get them here but they aren't as common. Off to scarf down a whole box of Hohos. :twisted:
 
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Not even close... For some people it may be more correct that for others but either way macro ratios make a huge difference for most people. I happen to be VERY carb sensitive and eating too many regardless of the caloric intake will put my body in a fat storage mode and there's no amount of working-out to counteract this. Most anyone can eat a caloric surplus and lose weight as long as they control their carb intake. A perfect example of this would be keto style diets, while this isn't for everyone and it is a pretty extreme example of cal in < cal out being too simple for most people.

I don't disagree, but are there studies showing this?
 

tedrodai

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As far as dieting goes, a suggestion would be to try adjusting to get more calories each day from protein and fat as opposed to mainly carbs (aim for close to maybe 30%/30%/30%, with the last 10% in protein or carbs). It's one of the easier ways to control how much you eat, because eating lots of carbs/sugars makes you get hungry again much more quickly (it also seems to make my hunger more intense). Besides, meat tastes good (and nuts, and some other protein heavy stuffs).

As far as your exercise goes, don't sweat the "you should be doing this instead" type responses. The suggestions aren't necessarily bad, but take as just that...suggestions.

Don't worry about your exercise in terms of calories--think about it in terms of progress, especially since you're aiming for the mental benefits. You want to try going for slightly more time or distance or speed or incline than you did in a previous workout. You can try to progress each day, or space it out a little more, but do try to slowly do more. Don't get stuck doing the exact same level of intensity every single time.
 

JimKiler

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I don't quite agree with this. You burn more calories if you have more muscle mass, so it's quite beneficial to condition those muscles as well.

I to also do resistance because I feel better that doing just cardio does not give me. It is only one study and with all studies take it with a grain of salt.

As far as dieting goes, a suggestion would be to try adjusting to get more calories each day from protein and fat as opposed to mainly carbs (aim for close to maybe 30%/30%/30%, with the last 10% in protein or carbs). It's one of the easier ways to control how much you eat, because eating lots of carbs/sugars makes you get hungry again much more quickly (it also seems to make my hunger more intense). Besides, meat tastes good (and nuts, and some other protein heavy stuffs).

As far as your exercise goes, don't sweat the "you should be doing this instead" type responses. The suggestions aren't necessarily bad, but take as just that...suggestions.

Don't worry about your exercise in terms of calories--think about it in terms of progress, especially since you're aiming for the mental benefits. You want to try going for slightly more time or distance or speed or incline than you did in a previous workout. You can try to progress each day, or space it out a little more, but do try to slowly do more. Don't get stuck doing the exact same level of intensity every single time.

Good point, he should be able to add a tenth of a MPH every day for a while and still be able to workout, i.e. day 1 2.7 MPH, day 2 2.8 MPH, day 3 2.9 MPH, etc.
 

ArchAngel777

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A ten degree incline changes everything. IIRC, each incline degree is about 10% more effort. I'd be looking to speed up the walk to around 3.5mph and decrease the incline to about 6-8 degrees. Then work up from there. No reason to walk much faster than 3.8 - 4.0, that is exessive stress on the hip joints. Once you hit the 4 mph range, you'd want to start jogging as it is biomechanically more efficient. IMO once you have worked up to a 10 degree incline @ 4mph you have pretty much hit the limit on walking. Sure, you could go past it, but that is going to tear up your hips and calves. You'd be better off running at that point.

FWIW, I feel that Incline Walking is some of the best exercise one can do to create an additional calorie deficit while not exhausting themselves. It is very easy on the CNS. You'd want to combine this with heavy resistance training though, which is hard on the CNS.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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No way in hell that happens.

One of the main reason people keep failing their diets, is because they set unrealistic standards for themselves.

You can't go from 3000 to 1600, and expect to be able to keep it up. There's no way it will work.

1600 calories isn't that bad as long as he has a plan for when he wants to stabilize his weight. 3000 is way too much for someone who is only doing very light exercise.
 

Pantlegz

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Wyndru

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2.7mph? are you ...walking? is that even working out?

That seems low, I thought even regular walking was more like 4-5 mph. I do a slow jog when I work out and it's ~10mph.

Actually, I just looked it up...the average walking speed is 3-3.5, so I guess it is normal speed for walking. I never knew that.
 

ArchAngel777

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That seems low, I thought even regular walking was more like 4-5 mph. I do a slow jog when I work out and it's ~10mph.

Actually, I just looked it up...the average walking speed is 3-3.5, so I guess it is normal speed for walking. I never knew that.

You do a slow jog at a 6 minute mile pace? Lol, where do you guys come up with this stuff? I can't make this stuff up.
 

Wyndru

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You do a slow jog at a 6 minute mile pace? Lol, where do you guys come up with this stuff? I can't make this stuff up.

It's what the machine says (norditrack elliptical), it doesn't seem like a fast pace to me. Maybe it's not considered jogging, but it certainly doesn't seem fast to me. I usually do that pace for 30 mins, 4-5 miles and I sweat, but I don't get that winded or anything. If I ran for that long I'd have a heart attack. Maybe ellipticals calculate mph differently though IDK.
 

tedrodai

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It's what the machine says (norditrack elliptical), it doesn't seem like a fast pace to me...Maybe ellipticals calculate mph differently though IDK.

Yeah, the pace on your elliptical does not translate to walking/running. 4mph is pretty speedy walking...I can't stand it personally lol. I naturally want to break into a jog before I hit 4mph.
 

Cstefan

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For the love of god add a full body weight routine twice a week to start! >
 
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