How many of us are cord cutters? What streaming sources do you use?

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TwiceOver

Lifer
Dec 20, 2002
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Netflix $9.99
Hulu (Am on a free month before cancel currently)
Amazon Prime $8.35
Slacker Radio $9.99
Spotify Premium (free)
Internet 60/10 $32.87

$61.25. Which is better than the $225 + Amazon Prime + Netflix that I was paying 2 years ago. We don't miss it one bit. When the Hulu free month ends we'll be adding HBO for a while. I wanted to dump Slacker by my wife doesn't like Spotify so she uses Slacker and I use Spotify Premium.
 

Artdeco

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Netflix $9.99
Hulu (Am on a free month before cancel currently)
Amazon Prime $8.35
Slacker Radio $9.99
Spotify Premium (free)
Internet 60/10 $32.87

$61.25. Which is better than the $225 + Amazon Prime + Netflix that I was paying 2 years ago. We don't miss it one bit. When the Hulu free month ends we'll be adding HBO for a while. I wanted to dump Slacker by my wife doesn't like Spotify so she uses Slacker and I use Spotify Premium.

How are you getting Spotify Premium for free?
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Im using netflix and amazon prime.
I tried Hulu plus, but really never used it.

The woman subscribes to some thing called crunchy rolls, I believe its mostly animation

My internet service is probably overpriced, but where I live the options are ATT or Comcast, and they more or less barely try to compete and both give substandard service. Currently I have Uverse but eventually I will get pissed off of frustrated by their annoyance level and switch to Comcast until I am too annoyed by them ... I feel like one of those chickens at the chicken farm where they have the chicken in a much too small cage.
 
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I'd love one of the new Tivos, but DAYUM they're expensive...especially if you want multiroom viewing. You can easily drop $800 on a 4 TV setup

Yeah it can be. I got the TiVO Roamio OTA with lifetime sub for $250 a bit over a year ago i think when it was on sale. Just recently bought a TiVO mini for my projector room. Its being shipped as i type.
 

Yakk

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May 28, 2016
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Cut cable almost 5 years ago now. Still have Netflix, watch it a bit, bit not much anymore either. So I guess I've pretty much cut out TV watching altogether.
 

Darwin333

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Dec 11, 2006
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I don't consider my internet or Amazon prime as costs to cutting the cord. I had both back when I had cable TV and didn't figure them into my TV costs then. I got Amazon prime for the free 2 day shipping and would still have it if they had zero free streaming and I'd have the internet if I watched zero TV on it.

With those two out of the equation, I pay about $20/month. I sometimes get the cheap cox package for the football season and then cancel at the end of it as there is no reliable way to stream ESPN or most of the sports channels yet. I would gladly pay ESPN and a few other sports channels the entirety of my cable bill during those months to allow me to stream but they never will. Their deals with the cable companies are to lucrative.
 
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I don't consider my internet or Amazon prime as costs to cutting the cord. I had both back when I had cable TV and didn't figure them into my TV costs then. I got Amazon prime for the free 2 day shipping and would still have it if they had zero free streaming and I'd have the internet if I watched zero TV on it.

With those two out of the equation, I pay about $20/month. I sometimes get the cheap cox package for the football season and then cancel at the end of it as there is no reliable way to stream ESPN or most of the sports channels yet. I would gladly pay ESPN and a few other sports channels the entirety of my cable bill during those months to allow me to stream but they never will. Their deals with the cable companies are to lucrative.
SlingTV. $20 for ESPN/ESPN 2 and a bunch of others.
 

Mai72

Lifer
Sep 12, 2012
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I don't know why we can't have cheaper internet. $65-70 per month seems high.

In South Korea I was paying $20 a month. Just high speed and it was fast. In Thailand, I was paying $15 a month and that was pretty decent.

The downside to both is heavy government intervention. Porn sites are blocked. Say anything negative about the Thai government on a social media site you could find yourself in jail.

Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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Has anyone tried the TWC app? For $10 you get basic cable and can use any streaming device/Smart TV as a cable box, but it's unclear what channels you get through the app for $10.

Also, what are your thoughts on the new PSVue service?
 

TXHokie

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Nov 16, 1999
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Cut the cord many years ago with my Windows MC computer as my 4 channel free OTA DVR that's also my music/photos/home video server fully backed up to cloud.
$54/mo for FIOS 25/25. Netflix and Prime round out the streaming options.

I need to move to Kodi but just haven't had the time. I miss sports and am eyeing the Sling/ESPN add on for $14/mo with T-Mobile.
 

Fritzo

Lifer
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OK, so what's the most economical solution for a OTA DVR then? I'd like to be able to record 3-4 shows at the same time, then use streaming services for other content. I'd be willing to build a PC to do this, or even a Raspberry Pi if do-able. Any suggestions?
 

vi edit

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Oct 28, 1999
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OK, so what's the most economical solution for a OTA DVR then? I'd like to be able to record 3-4 shows at the same time, then use streaming services for other content. I'd be willing to build a PC to do this, or even a Raspberry Pi if do-able. Any suggestions?

There's economical, and then there's functional. Especially when you are talking multi-stream recording. They tend to be on opposite spectrums. It's very, very hard to beat the pure simplicity of Tivo. A roamio OTA with lifetime subscription will run you $400. Buy it outright like that and there is no monthly costs. The recently added commercial skip is a gift from the DVR gods. We jokingly refer to it in my house as "Give it the D". When you get to a commercial break on a recording you just hit the "D" button and it jumps right to the start after the break. So awesome. Good luck getting that ease of use and simple integration with any PC based solution.
 

poofyhairguy

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OK, so what's the most economical solution for a OTA DVR then? I'd like to be able to record 3-4 shows at the same time, then use streaming services for other content. I'd be willing to build a PC to do this, or even a Raspberry Pi if do-able. Any suggestions?

Probably MythTV plus whatever cheap hardware you have lying around plus a pile of HDHomeruns.

A Pi 2 or 3 can be a frontend via Kodi (aka a client for this OTA DVR), but it doesn't have the CPU power or the storage to properly record TV and strip commercials.
 
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poofyhairguy

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The recently added commercial skip is a gift from the DVR gods. We jokingly refer to it in my house as "Give it the D". When you get to a commercial break on a recording you just hit the "D" button and it jumps right to the start after the break. So awesome. Good luck getting that ease of use and simple integration with any PC based solution.

My "PC based solution" automatically rips out the commercials as the content is being recorded and then it's ready to play through the same Kodi interface that delivers my entire media library. Can't get easier than that, it just took me god knows how long to set it up.
 

vi edit

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My "PC based solution" automatically rips out the commercials as the content is being recorded and then it's ready to play through the same Kodi interface that delivers my entire media library. Can't get easier than that, it just took me god knows how long to set it up.

Out of curiosity, explain the workflow to me for this under your setup. I want clicks and how you do device input.

1) Start a season pass for a new show
2) Start watching a recorded show, and turn up the volume on your TV
3) Delete a show
 

slag

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Dec 14, 2000
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Amazon Prime
Hulu Plus
Netflix
Sling TV
Internet is paid for by my wife's company
I vary on what I watch. Sometimes its Sling TV for the cooking shows and HGTV. Sometimes, like now, its Netflix for Orange is the new Black, other times, Hulu Plus has more recent programming. Generally its only late at night or weekend mornings when I'm in bed or during the winter.

I also pay for a VPN.
 

Jeffg010

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I don't know why you keep asking about internet costs. I'd say for nearly all of us, we'd have internet regardless of streaming services or not... which means it's a sunk cost and isn't necessary for this comparison.

I use:
-Netflix (just raised to $10/month)
-PlayStation Vue ($45/month)

I also have Amazon Prime, but don't use it for streaming so I don't count it for that. PlayStation Vue IMO was a game changer, and while it's not a perfect solution it's pretty damned awesome. It's nearly everything I wanted on cable (minus NFL network) that streams on up to 5 devices for close to or cheaper than a comparable cable package. They just released their Roku app, which means regardless of whether I'm at my gf's apartment or my own house I have access to the same channels. I'm also not under contract, so can stop it at any time if I'm not using it without punishment... and then restart it without having to schedule an installation.

I want to know bottom line cost and that would include internet. If you watch the streaming from prime then it is a cost to have it. Also all the extra boxes and fire sticks ect are a cost too. When I had Comcast it was $109 everything but the 2 movie channels and also included the DVR box and internet. Tell me how I can get all that for $109 by cutting the cord.

Also telling me I can't watch all that is not the point. The point of it was that I had access to it when ever I wanted for $109
 

dullard

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Also telling me I can't watch all that is not the point. The point of it was that I had access to it when ever I wanted for $109
You have a choice:
a) $109/month (and rising) for access to everything or
b) As low as $0/month for access to almost everything.

If you truly want everything, you have to pay for everything. But for most of us, we don't actually need everything. And I personally find having just the shows that I want the instant that I want it on any device that I want it for $14.99/month (internet) is good enough especially considering I'd be paying that $14.99/month anyways for internet. Yes, there are other shows that I don't have access to. But after a couple months, you don't miss that and you really don't miss scrolling through hundreds of channels that you'll never watch either.
 

nakedfrog

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Apr 3, 2001
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You have a choice:
a) $109/month (and rising) for access to everything or
b) As low as $0/month for access to almost everything.

If you truly want everything, you have to pay for everything. But for most of us, we don't actually need everything. And I personally find having just the shows that I want the instant that I want it on any device that I want it for $14.99/month (internet) is good enough especially considering I'd be paying that $14.99/month anyways for internet. Yes, there are other shows that I don't have access to. But after a couple months, you don't miss that and you really don't miss scrolling through hundreds of channels that you'll never watch either.
Yep. I did a trial run of a couple months before I actually cancelled my satellite service, where I'd turn on one of my other devices if I wanted to watch something, and a lot of my TV viewing really was just background noise.
 

poofyhairguy

Lifer
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Out of curiosity, explain the workflow to me for this under your setup. I want clicks and how you do device input.

Sure thing, with the caveat:

I wasn't trying to say what works for me works best for everyone, and I wasn't really advocating my method. Just wanted to point out a singular advantage for a PC based setup.

I do it all via Kodi because I like having everything accessible in Kodi via a remote-my entire media library (recorded content and disk rips), my entire collection of retrogames launched via preconfigured emulators, and Steam Big Picture. Well that and building/configuring HTPCs is probably my primary hobby (like board games for you if I may). I get not everyone wants all that or the time commitment to get there, I probably spent 10 hours this year just configuring Kodi settings alone (but now it upscales better than a Oppo player thanks to that time).

Now, to your questions (based on my OTA setup with a NextPVR backend and Kodi frontends):

1) Start a season pass for a new show

I find the show I want to record in the TV guide of the Kodi Live TV menu (all done via a remote in a ten foot interface), I hit a certain (menu) button on my Harmony remote that is pretty much the equivelent of a right click, and then I select 'add timer' option in the contextual menu that pops up. Then I can chose the 'Repeating (Guide)' option in the next menu that pops up via the remote's select button and I am done. For one off recording, that is done via a single red button press on the remote either in the guide or while watching the channel.

Once shows are recorded a program called Comskip automatically rips out the commercials (based on all kinds of machine learning logic) and then transfers the fixed up copy to my media server where it is added to the massive media library I already have in Kodi along with the correct fanart and episode information. Therefore as shows record they are added to my big library seamlessly (so if season 1 is Blu Ray rips and a show is on season 4 right now as recording come they go in the same TV folder as the season 1 rips), and there is no artificial division between "recorded shows" and "shows I ripped that are just in Plex" for example.

2) Start watching a recorded show, and turn up the volume on your TV

That is all handled by a Harmony remote, which I would recommend no matter your source for OTA. With a Harmony remote you program in a macro for each activity button where each button on the remote in that activity can control different devices when that button is pressed.

So if I hit the "Kodi" activity button the Harmony automatically changes the inputs to my Kodi box (turning on the TV and receiver if needed) and then all the buttons related to navigating the interface (up, down, enter, record, etc.) on the remote give the correct commands to Kodi, while the volume and mute buttons directly control my AV receiver. The Kodi commands are received via a FLIRC IR dongle that I have programmed.

To directly answer your question, I hit the macro button and Kodi comes on. I find the TV show in a highly skinned beautiful ten foot interface that is best of class (and searchable by name, actor, year, genre, etc.) and I select the TV show and play it (much like Netflix's interface but prettier). The watched status for each show (like did I watch it, or how far I got into it Netflix style) is saved in a MySQL database synced across my house so I can start a show in the livingroom and finish it in the kitchen. One of the Kodi menu options allows me to easily see new shows added to the library recently, which is where I usually start.

Honestly I am kinda wondering how you manage this sort of thing without a Harmony quite frankly, Tivo or not. My family can't handle the whole "this remote does this" mental gymnastics so I have bought Harmonies (and programmed them) for every single member of my family (even the ones without a Kodi setup). Best money and time I ever spent.

3) Delete a show

I don't really. I am a digital hoarder with over 50TBs of storage space. Deleting content makes me feel icky inside so I save everything and add more HDs to the array when I need them. Without digital information I would be one of those crazy people living in a pile of newspapers because I have a hoarder's instinct.

But the same contextual menu that allows me to set up a repeating recording "timer" has a "Delete" option I have never used so I will guess that is the way to do it. Or I could use a media manager program to automatically delete a part of my library if its untouched for a certain amount of time (just typing that kinda hurt).

Hope I sufficiently answered your questions.
 
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IGBT

Lifer
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ROKU..lots of free content plus netflix. They are adding more to it all the time.
 
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