How many of you would be panicking if...

[DaiShan]

Well I work for myself, so if I scheduled a drug test, I'd make sure I could pass! j/k

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: Accipiter22

Originally posted by: gigapet
either way my company doesn't pay me enough to keep me around for that kind of invasion of privacy.

I'm fairly certain it's illegal to do that once you're hired in MA, CT also.....what state you in?

CT

 

[Kelemvor]

I'd panic because I don't like needles.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: pclstyle
it's being done

urine/blood @ pharmaceutical company. since they haven't administered any tests past the original pending-employment physical/drug screening, i guess they're taking advantage of the oh-too-comfortable state their employees have fallen into

we have a random drug test policy here... they roll dice all the time and if the last didget of your social is rolled you go pee in the bottle..

they give no warning and once your name is called you dont go back to work till you pee in the cup..

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: Argo
Haven't touched a drug since college so I won't care.

you also don't have anything illegal in your home so it'd be fine for them to do random searches there too?

Personally guilty or not my privacy is more important than my current job. If they wer epaying me 6 or 7 figures I'd reconsider my privacy policy.

No, I don't have anything illegal in my house either, but regardless you're comparing apples to oranges. Plus they're not violating your liberty, since drug testing is optional. The catch is - they can fire you if you don't take it. But that was part of the contract you signed/agreed to when you joined the company. The beauty of free market economy, employer get to make their own rules.

Wow, that must suck working in the US with no worker's rights. Every job i've been in, there's always been easy access to worker's rights information... whether it's pamphlets on the tables, or posters on the wall.

Don't want to take the drug test, don't work there.

Yep, glad i don't. But we know how much better the American workforce is due to these rigorous drug testing.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: Argo
Haven't touched a drug since college so I won't care.

you also don't have anything illegal in your home so it'd be fine for them to do random searches there too?

Personally guilty or not my privacy is more important than my current job. If they wer epaying me 6 or 7 figures I'd reconsider my privacy policy.

So apparantly in your opinion the degree of the privacy violation (drug test vs home search) is irrelevant to whether you would allow it, but the amount they pay you is relevant... hrmmm...

Give me liberty, or give me money!

Exactly. They aren't paying me enough to violate my principles.

No, you have no principles if money is a factor. You just have angst.

Money is always a factor. Cash rules everything around me.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Looney

Yep, glad i don't. But we know how much better the American workforce is due to these rigorous drug testing.

I just enjoy watching the druggies get pwned.

 

[phantom309]

Wouldn't affect me directly, but I doubt I'd be happy working for a company like that. Respect is a two-way street.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Looney

Yep, glad i don't. But we know how much better the American workforce is due to these rigorous drug testing.

I just enjoy watching the druggies get pwned.

:roll:

 

[DaiShan]

Meh I think a lot of you are missing the point. A company can't have a bunch of warehouse workers operating machinery if they do drugs. All it takes is one accident and its a huge insurance pay out. Different jobs require different things. For example, at my last job my employer always maintained the right to randomly test any employee, they never tested anyone in IT, and probably wouldn't unless you really started messing things up.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Ryan
My company doens't do drug tests, thank goodness

If they fired pizza delivery folks for smoking pot, there would be no one left to deliver pizza!

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: Argo
Haven't touched a drug since college so I won't care.

you also don't have anything illegal in your home so it'd be fine for them to do random searches there too?

Personally guilty or not my privacy is more important than my current job. If they wer epaying me 6 or 7 figures I'd reconsider my privacy policy.

No, I don't have anything illegal in my house either, but regardless you're comparing apples to oranges. Plus they're not violating your liberty, since drug testing is optional. The catch is - they can fire you if you don't take it. But that was part of the contract you signed/agreed to when you joined the company. The beauty of free market economy, employer get to make their own rules.

Wow, that must suck working in the US with no worker's rights. Every job i've been in, there's always been easy access to worker's rights information... whether it's pamphlets on the tables, or posters on the wall.

Don't want to take the drug test, don't work there.

Yep, glad i don't. But we know how much better the American workforce is due to these rigorous drug testing.

Beg your pardon?

Productivity
Canadian workers are estimated to be 82% as productive per hour as their American counterparts. [4] Because American workers also tend to work longer hours, the productivity gap per worker becomes even greater. The industries with the largest productivity advantages for the U.S. are the manufacturing (particularly electronics and computer), finance, and service sectors. Industries where Canada is actually more productive than the U.S. are the construction and natural resources sectors.

The productivity gap had been even larger in the 1950s but the difference has been narrowing, aided by the elimination of the smaller market problem through free trade. The gap was still closing somewhat in the 1980s but at a much slower pace than in the 1960s. From 1961 to 1973 labour productivity rose annually by 3.3 percent in Canada and 1.7 percent in the United States. From 1973 to 1995 productivity growth was 1.1% in Canada and 0.8% in the States.[5]

The productivity gap began to widen again in the 1990s, particularly in the manufacturing sector. By 2000, this was called Canada's "Excellence Gap" by the Chief Economist of Canadian Manufacturers & Exporters. [6] As of 2000, the United States had the most productive manufacturing sector of the G7 countries, while Canada placed last.

Link

 

[nakedfrog]

Oh, and I'd probably tell them to save their money because I wouldn't pass... but also that there haven't been a whole lot of times in the six years I've worked for them that I could have. But fortunately, very few of the places around here bother testing programmers.

 

[Kelvrick]

Sabotage!! Its those damn poppy seed bagels and poppy bread they've been bringing in!!

 

[j00fek]

Originally posted by: Ryan
My company doens't do drug tests, thank goodness

:thumbsup:

 

[crownjules]

Originally posted by: bigrash
that's fine with me. i dont do drugs

Neither do I. Just marijuana.

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Ryan
My company doens't do drug tests, thank goodness

If they fired pizza delivery folks for smoking pot, there would be no one left to deliver pizza!

lol - EXACTLY!

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: pclstyle
it's being done

urine/blood @ pharmaceutical company. since they haven't administered any tests past the original pending-employment physical/drug screening, i guess they're taking advantage of the oh-too-comfortable state their employees have fallen into

That gives me a whole afternoon and night to study for it. No sweat!

 

[crownjules]

Ok, so to be more serious.

Drug testing should either be illegal, or at the very least should not be grounds for termination/demotion by a company. It is an invasion of our basic rights as citizens, and the fact that many of you simply welcome this as a good thing sickens me.

Would you stand to allow a company to randomly search your house or person without any reasonable suspicion, and moreover, fire you if they found things of an unsavory nature? How about those porn magazines or the gigs of smut files stored on your computer? Illegally downloaded music, movies, and/or software? You are no less of a menace to society for breaking those laws (porn isn't breaking the law, but's its not very well looked on by many) then the thousands of simply recreational drug users who like to have a little fun once or twice a week.

Job termination should be determined by performance, drugs or no.

Be careful of what freedoms you are so easy to concede to those in positions of power.

 

[blackdogdeek]

10 years ago yes
tomorrow no

 

[pontifex]

my previous employer needs to do that. i bet they'd have to end up firing half the dept.

 

[Jfrag Teh Foul]

No, now please excuse me while I go pay somebody for urine... jk

 

[SaturnX]

I couldn't care less if they sprung one on me, I've got nothing to hide and frankly don't care if a company wants to employ random drug testing.

--Mark

 

[Motek]

bha no one does drugs here...
Nor do I Religion forbids it

 

[Koing]

I don't care.

A guy I know was bricking it though. Got a new job and was pilling it over the weekend and drugs test happened to be first thing at his new job! He got lucky and they only picked 2 people and not everyone.

Koing