How many of you would be panicking if...

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: J0hnny
I'm subject to random drug tests everyday!

I personally think it's a good thing and keeps us honest!

They could also conduct random searches on your residence, automobile, and financial accounts to keep you honest as well if you really want to live like that. :roll:

my feelings exactly. I don't do drugs myself (for many reasons), but I don't think that the workplace is the right place to enforce it. It shouldn't be considered a problem until it's actually a problem.

 

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: Insane3D
I love the prevalence of the "if you have nothing to hide, what's the problem" attitude....seems to be the way this country is going..

Doesn't communism start that way?

 

[dguy6789]

Originally posted by: gigapet
here is a scenario I'd like you pro testers to comment on....

You work for xyz corp you get your 2 weeks vaca per year. you are a top employee performance wise. On your two week vaca you travel to holland. while in holland you indulge in some space cake and a joint........all legal. You return to the states and on your first day back you are asked to pee in a cup. They find prescence of THC in your urine and subsequently fire you.

It is there right to do so as the employer.

I would be perfectly fine with it. The company has rules. If you want to stay with that company, you follow the rules. No where you go, nor any circumstances you are in should change how the company rules affect you nor how you view the company rules.

Careful, possible grammar nightmare: Most people who do not do drugs, do not do them not because of the fact that it is illegal, but that they are just plain unhealthy in the first place.

The argument can be made that there are much worse things than a joint, but think of it this way; The less things one does that is unhealthy, the healthier they will be.

 

[j00fek]

Originally posted by: IGBT
..nothing new. People in the transportation..law enforcement/fire dept have been operating under zero tolerance rules for 20+years. Drug testing is becoming very cheap and insurance companies are requiring pre-employment/random/post accident testing in the work place. There's a drug test in EVERYBODY's future.

i dont think so

 

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: Argo
Haven't touched a drug since college so I won't care.

you also don't have anything illegal in your home so it'd be fine for them to do random searches there too?

Personally guilty or not my privacy is more important than my current job. If they wer epaying me 6 or 7 figures I'd reconsider my privacy policy.

So apparantly in your opinion the degree of the privacy violation (drug test vs home search) is irrelevant to whether you would allow it, but the amount they pay you is relevant... hrmmm...

Give me liberty, or give me money!

Exactly. They aren't paying me enough to violate my principles.

If your principles have a price, can I interest you in a career in politics?

 

[Skunkwourk]

I just took one, I thought they'd make me pee in a cup, but they cut some of my hair instead...

 

[j00fek]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: Argo
Haven't touched a drug since college so I won't care.

you also don't have anything illegal in your home so it'd be fine for them to do random searches there too?

Personally guilty or not my privacy is more important than my current job. If they wer epaying me 6 or 7 figures I'd reconsider my privacy policy.

So apparantly in your opinion the degree of the privacy violation (drug test vs home search) is irrelevant to whether you would allow it, but the amount they pay you is relevant... hrmmm...

Give me liberty, or give me money!

Exactly. They aren't paying me enough to violate my principles.

If your principles have a price, can I interest you in a career in politics?

LOL

 

[j00fek]

Originally posted by: Eghck
I just took one, I thought they'd make me pee in a cup, but they cut some of my hair instead...

that is the basis of new procedures today. no more pee just hair, they can tell what you have done for the past 1-2yrs with this method.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: j00fek

Originally posted by: Eghck
I just took one, I thought they'd make me pee in a cup, but they cut some of my hair instead...

that is the basis of new procedures today. no more pee just hair, they can tell what you have done for the past 1-2yrs with this method.

So again is it ok for them to not hire someone who smoked pot legally 2 years ago when they were studying in holland?

 

[BatmanNate]

Originally posted by: j00fek

Originally posted by: Eghck
I just took one, I thought they'd make me pee in a cup, but they cut some of my hair instead...

that is the basis of new procedures today. no more pee just hair, they can tell what you have done for the past 1-2yrs with this method.

What if you're bald, or if you shave your head?

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: Argo
Haven't touched a drug since college so I won't care.

you also don't have anything illegal in your home so it'd be fine for them to do random searches there too?

Personally guilty or not my privacy is more important than my current job. If they wer epaying me 6 or 7 figures I'd reconsider my privacy policy.

So apparantly in your opinion the degree of the privacy violation (drug test vs home search) is irrelevant to whether you would allow it, but the amount they pay you is relevant... hrmmm...

Give me liberty, or give me money!

Exactly. They aren't paying me enough to violate my principles.

If your principles have a price, can I interest you in a career in politics?

Don't be all high and mighty. Everyone has there price. Everyone.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: Insane3D
I love the prevalence of the "if you have nothing to hide, what's the problem" attitude....seems to be the way this country is going..

Doesn't communism start that way?

According to the originator (Karl Marx) communism originates when the "proletariat" overthrow the "bourgesoise" and establish a dictatorship of the proletariat. However the "if you have nothing to hide whats the problem" attitude might be a good start on the road to totalitarianism.

 

[Udel]

Originally posted by: j00fek

Originally posted by: Eghck
I just took one, I thought they'd make me pee in a cup, but they cut some of my hair instead...

that is the basis of new procedures today. no more pee just hair, they can tell what you have done for the past 1-2yrs with this method.

Well thats good. If you smoked a joint in your life, you are wholly unfit to work anyway. Its illegal for a reason guys!

 

[Udel]

Originally posted by: BatmanNate

Originally posted by: j00fek

Originally posted by: Eghck
I just took one, I thought they'd make me pee in a cup, but they cut some of my hair instead...

that is the basis of new procedures today. no more pee just hair, they can tell what you have done for the past 1-2yrs with this method.

What if you're bald, or if you shave your head?

Arm hair, no kidding either.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: Udel

Originally posted by: j00fek

Originally posted by: Eghck
I just took one, I thought they'd make me pee in a cup, but they cut some of my hair instead...

that is the basis of new procedures today. no more pee just hair, they can tell what you have done for the past 1-2yrs with this method.

Well thats good. If you smoked a joint in your life, your wholly unfit to work anyway. Its illegal for a reason guys!

sarcasm?

 

[Old Hippie]

I really don't see what these companies hope to accomplish.

They hope to lower their insurance premiums by instituting a drug testing policy.

 

[JDrake]

I'd have to call up my sober friend :Q

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: Old Hippie

I really don't see what these companies hope to accomplish.

They hope to lower their insurance premiums by instituting a drug testing policy.

and who is in colluding with insurance companies to offer this premium discount. hmmmmmmmm I wonder..... The companies that sell these drug testing products!

Don't get it twisted folks this is just another big money issue. Drug testing I believe is a billion dollar industry.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: gigapet
Don't be all high and mighty. Everyone has there price. Everyone.

You really have a sad outlook on life.

 

[Dr. Detroit]

bring it, whatever they want. Blood, urine, hair, spinal fluid........

 

[40Hands]

Jobs should be performance based not based on a chemical that can be found in your body months after you use it. Shame on you propaganda programmed bitches who support the war on personal freedom.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: gigapet
Don't be all high and mighty. Everyone has there price. Everyone.

You really have a sad outlook on life.

Reality is often times sad. Sorry you wish to ignore the facts of life. Cash Rules Everything Around Me.

 

[Udel]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: Old Hippie

I really don't see what these companies hope to accomplish.

They hope to lower their insurance premiums by instituting a drug testing policy.

and who is in colluding with insurance companies to offer this premium discount. hmmmmmmmm I wonder..... The companies that sell these drug testing products!

Don't get it twisted folks this is just another big money issue. Drug testing I believe is a billion dollar industry.

:thumbsup:

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Fmr12B
bring it, whatever they want. Blood, urine, hair, spinal fluid........

Don't leave out semen. And hey, if they need to take one of my kidneys out to test it, more power to them.

 

[BatmanNate]

The 'Nothing to hide, nothing to fear' mentality that's so pervasive in this thread really sheds some light on the state of affairs in this country. It's all fine and good until you realize the people who define what is right and wrong by law start having drastically different ideas that you, and you start having things to hide like the books you read, your voting record, your sexual identitiy, etcetera. Where does it end?