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Martin

Lifer
Jan 15, 2000
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I'd never work for a company that required this, as it speaks volumes about the corporate culture and the type of poeple that work there. :thumbsdown:
 

gigapet

Lifer
Aug 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
Originally posted by: gigapet
smells like we have a hippocrite in the room.

Hypocrite? You can't call everyone who fights for Goodness in the world a hypocrite just because they're human and can't live 100% to their own principles.

Your signature (in case you change it):
Originally posted by: gigapet
The greatest thought, the Supreme Being
The greatest power, love
The greatest weakness, lack of faith
The greatest certainty, change
The greatest sickness, fear
The greatest danger, ignorance
The greatest force, truth
The greatest good, peace
The greatest enemy: pride, hate, ego
The greatest victory, self control
Does anyone else see how this conflicts with such a pessimistic and shallow view of the world? Love is not ruled by money. Faith is not governed by money. Money is susceptible to change (bankruptcy, stock market crashes, etc.). Money, in excess, causes fear of future need. (You get dependent on it.) Money funds wars, causes the rich to boast, and helps people satisfy desires that they probably shouldn't be satisfying.

Tell me again how "Cash Rules Everything Around [you]." Tell me again how the pending death of all of humanity has ANYTHING to do with what I want out of my own life. Tell me how you are not a sinner.

I hope you live to see that great force of truth.

wow man you have issues, serious ones.
 

HombrePequeno

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Mar 7, 2001
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I really wouldn't care if a company asked me to do drug tests every now and again. If you don't like it, simply don't work for that company. If it was up to me, however, I wouldn't do drug tests (at least not for non-addictive substances). If they're doing a good job and toke up once in a while or take some mushroom, why should I give a sh!t? All I care about is performance. If you're drug use doesn't affect that, fine; if it does, you're gone.
 

Udel

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Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: gigapet
Don't be all high and mighty. Everyone has there price. Everyone.

You really have a sad outlook on life.

Reality is often times sad. Sorry you wish to ignore the facts of life. Cash Rules Everything Around Me.

You'll die one day. I hope you realize before then that even cash can't save you from it. Cash is only a noise you use to cover your ears from the ineffable but inescapable truth that we really have no clue about this whole thing we call life.
:thumbsup: Well said.
 

kevinthenerd

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Jun 27, 2002
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Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
I really wouldn't care if a company asked me to do drug tests every now and again. If you don't like it, simply don't work for that company. If it was up to me, however, I wouldn't do drug tests (at least not for non-addictive substances). If they're doing a good job and toke up once in a while or take some mushroom, why should I give a sh!t? All I care about is performance. If you're drug use doesn't affect that, fine; if it does, you're gone.

What sucks is that the major corporations all require it, and they control a good percentage of the "good" jobs (whatever "good" may mean to you).
 

HombrePequeno

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Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
I really wouldn't care if a company asked me to do drug tests every now and again. If you don't like it, simply don't work for that company. If it was up to me, however, I wouldn't do drug tests (at least not for non-addictive substances). If they're doing a good job and toke up once in a while or take some mushroom, why should I give a sh!t? All I care about is performance. If you're drug use doesn't affect that, fine; if it does, you're gone.

What sucks is that the major corporations all require it, and they control a good percentage of the "good" jobs (whatever "good" may mean to you).

Well if that's the case, go to work for yourself if you care that much about drugs. You have more freedom being your own boss anyhow.
 

Robor

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Oct 9, 1999
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I don't use so it wouldn't affect me directly but that doesn't make it right.

On one side you've got the employer. Should they have the right to say you can or can not do illegal drugs outside the workplace?

On the other side you've got the employee. Should they be subject to testing and possible termination of employement if their illegal drug use doesn't affect their work?

I took a test before I was hired at my current company but AFAIK they don't test randomly after hiring. Where I used to work there was a programmer who liked to use the herb once in a while. She never came in impared and it didn't affect her work. Well, 3 years into employment she got her number pulled for a test and she knew she would fail so she quit 'out of principle'. She lost a good job and the company lost a good programmer. Who won there?
 

Squisher

Lifer
Aug 17, 2000
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I can only be tested if someone determines me to be impaired or if I'm hurt at work.

What people do at home shouldn't be the subject of an employer's review.

 

blckgrffn

Diamond Member
May 1, 2003
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Defence industry companies see drugs as a portal for extortion, I guess that would apply to any business that has very sensitive information. They need to know if you could be a security weakness.

It is different than kidnapping your little ones or phoning you threats, as you could contact the police about that. You wouldn't be likely to call the cops if your dealer was threatining you, I don't think. Of course, I don't really know how that kind of situation would go...

Of course, I don't/haven't/won't do drugs, so it isn't a problem for me
 

TGS

Golden Member
May 3, 2005
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Depends on the industry, I wouldn't support a random drug test unless it was thought to be the root cause of a work related problem.

 

tranceport

Diamond Member
Aug 8, 2000
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I'll do a urine test but not blood.. Don't like needles. I consider it physical harm and would fight the company for me not to have to take a blood test unless they can get the blood without injuring me.
 
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