Ah yes, the objectivist's myth: that every talented person will rise to wealth and fame, and that poor people who stay poor deserve their misery.
You know damn well that's a lie. The US alone has plenty of wealthy people whose "talent" was being born in the right family, having the right connections or using shady tricks to climb to the top. Do you think the Kardashian sisters were genuinely brilliant business strategists? Hell, there's a certain US President who wouldn't be where he is if if weren't for his rich daddy and his eagerness to cheat contractors.
You need a healthy government framework (including a support system) because real life isn't an Ayn Rand fantasy where everyone gets exactly what they deserve. Talent gets stifled by poorly funded public schools, unaffordable colleges, a lack of local career opportunities and, sometimes, discrimination. Successful people get taken down by layoffs or injuries. It's easy to say "screw you, got mine" when you're a middle-class white man who will never really know what it's like to be denied opportunities because of the conditions you were born into.
Hell, just look at the disparity we've seen between even moderately wealthy people. Take the "affluenza teen" or what's his face (the Stanford Rapist). If they were minorities they get max sentences with no leniency. You change them to poor white people, and they'll get very strict sentences. Wealthy and white, though? Slap on the wrist.
It doesn't matter. Nothing you can say will change their beliefs about this because its not based on reality or anything but what they want to believe. They grew up on the American Fairy Tale and they refuse to see it for what it is. Because they really believe it based on <insert famous person here>, when those are the exceptions far more than the rule. It is slightly amusing how the relatively well off conservatives on here will unify with other conservatives that are actually the people they're talking about, with both not realizing (unless directly confronted with it) that, because they both buy into a belief of what welfare recipients are (poor black women with a bunch of babies with different baby daddies).
Sounds like a urban elite problem to me; maybe you guys should give up a bit more of your money for bread and circuses and stop doing all you can to segregate yourselves and your children from those poor would-be rioters. You can learn a bit from the suburbs where riots of the poors doesn't really happen.
As usual you're just posting bullshit that shows you suck at knowing basic information. Conservatives are consistently the ones pushing for that type of segregation.
Except that most riots in recent history actually take place in suburbs (or smaller cities in more rural regions that would barely count as suburbs in the larger metropolises, but they rarely take place in the areas where urban elites reside):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_the_United_States
Even trying to make that distinction at this point is stupid though. As many suburbs have grown to be massive cities on their own, but even from there its the fringe areas that are exactly what suburbs were better represent the urban blight now that lots of city centers/downtowns have been gentrified. Shit doesn't happen in the suburbs you're talking about (which are more affluent gated/segmented communities) because very little really happens there. They're just places for people to eat and sleep and veg out their empty minds to, between their commutes to and from their work. They are not areas to aspire to, they are areas to aspire to get out of (and that's nothing new, Rush was making that point 35 years ago). I don't know of anyone that dreams of quaint quiet suburbanite life. They just do that as a means to an end, as they try to accrue wealth to do something they actually want to do, or while they're raising their kids. Hell they originally were literally trying to segregate themselves from minorities after civil rights movement started tackling shit like redlining. But then you seem quite on board with that.
Also, you know that the average welfare recipient is white and lives in the suburbs with two kids, right?
Oh and let's not forget that drugs are quite rampant in the suburbs (thanks prescription opioids!). But hey, keep believing that you've found your little pristine, but most of all, white utopia.