How much do you have in your savings account?

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zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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How do you know? My guess is there are several 1%ers in this thread. If he's not a 1%er, maybe he's a prepper. Or maybe it helps him sleep better at night. Regardless, it's not significant. We're talking $50k, not even six figures.

well, I'm pretty sure he doesn't need that $55k to buy guns, legos and cars, like our OP!
 
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StinkyPinky

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Jul 6, 2002
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I actually have about -3k (it lets me overdraft). But that's only short term as I'm selling my house and will make a good 200k profit from that.
 

ImpulsE69

Lifer
Jan 8, 2010
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I keep most of my money in savings as well as have money automatically set aside every paycheck into it. Sure it only draws like .45% (hell maybe its .045% but it equates to about $20-30 a month that I wouldn't be getting in my checking.
 
Nov 8, 2012
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I'm all about dat tax advantage these days. Savings accounts mean nothing to me. I would rather max out the following:
2x 401ks (2 * 18,000) = 36k
2x ROTH IRA's (2 * 5,500) = $11k
1x HSA $6.75k

That said, I do have about 6 months of expenses or so in Savings just in case. It yields 0.95% Interest, so it's not horrible. By the end of the year I'm getting at least a few hundred or so out of it.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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WTF kind of emergency to you envision that requires $55k in cash? Many investments are very liquid. There's just no reason to let that kind of cash sit idle.

OK. You never can tell. I'm diversified pretty well and I don't worry about it too much.
 
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55k really isn't that much overall... At the same time, I can kinda sympathize with you in that it is decent amount - It's the reason we have healthcare and car insurance.... So you don't have to pay in full if you total your car or break your leg.

That said, I do keep around a decent chunk of change for reasons such as emergencies, job loss, and because my wife wants a new car... and I hate enslaving myself in loans. Not that loans are bad in general....
 
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i've heard kids can be expensive

Have I drunkenly posted that I have a kid on the way? Because I do

I already started buying baby shit because it was a good deal... I already have a stockpile of diapers and shit from awesome coupon deals.

Fuckin ey, gotta start saving fort the little shit's college fund to make sure he has tons of advantages over everyone else. All so that he becomes spoiled and becomes a depressed heroin addict like my sister.
 

brianmanahan

Lifer
Sep 2, 2006
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Have I drunkenly posted that I have a kid on the way? Because I do

some of us just happen to read other forums saw a familiar name and did a double take. congratulations!

don't worry, by the time he's 16 i'm sure they'll have something way better than heroin.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
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How do you know? My guess is there are several 1%ers in this thread. If he's not a 1%er, maybe he's a prepper. Or maybe it helps him sleep better at night. Regardless, it's not significant. We're talking $50k, not even six figures.

I've got six figures in my savings account. Still looking for a good investment.
 
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Imp

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WTF kind of emergency to you envision that requires $55k in cash? Many investments are very liquid. There's just no reason to let that kind of cash sit idle.

Someone has obviously not accidentally flushed a kilo "accidentally" before.
 

ViviTheMage

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Dec 12, 2002
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That is horrible. I have about 55K in my regular savings account as an emergency fund. And deposit to it once a month.

Why not put it somewhere where it can build? That's a decent chunk of cash to have liquid.

I have about 17k cash though, just sold some stuff and paid off the wifes car.
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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Also, if you do an average job gambling, the house cleans up. If you do an average job in stocks, you clean up. Not quite the same. Stocks can be gambling. But just buying an S&P500 fund and holding it for many years is just about the safest bet there is.

Rental properties as passive income is great (mostly because of fantastic tax breaks in real estate). But it often isn't worth the headache or effort until you get four properties. Start with a 4-plex apartment or something similar. If you can't afford that, then I wouldn't recommend rental properties.

Understood and thanks for the financial insight as always. The bit about the savings account rates was just about understanding what people were talking about, not that it will net them a lot more. You can get still 1% at many places so I wasn't sure why people were saying 0.1%. http://www.bankrate.com/funnel/savi...c_id=home_smart-spending_bank-rates_globalnav
 
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rh71

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Have I drunkenly posted that I have a kid on the way? Because I do

I already started buying baby shit because it was a good deal... I already have a stockpile of diapers and shit from awesome coupon deals.

Unless you guys are without family & friends, you will get a ton of baby-related stuff as gifts. No need to freak out about it all.
 

nathanddrews

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"It's not how much you earn, it's how much you spend." is the wisest phrase anyone ever said to me in regard to living comfortably. I've tried to live by that and with a couple exceptions been successful. I still have more debt than I would like, but it's stuff like mortgages and not big screen TVs and cell phones. Likewise, I would like to take more risks with investments, but it's like a deep RPG to really get into it and stay on top of it.

Anyone hear of Dave Ramsey? I think he's bigger in more Christian/Conservative circles - as those are the people that talk about him the most - but he's a practical financial wizard. His view is based entirely upon really basic, simple principles that we all take for granted day in and day out. This is coming across as a plug, but it's not. I haven't bought any of his books or taken any of his free courses, but a lot of my friends and family quote him often. I've heard interviews and he seems really decent and down to earth dude. It's obvious that he's helped a lot of people avoid the common financial pitfalls. To me, most of his stuff is just common sense that just isn't that common.

Anyway, we try to keep enough in savings as an emergency fund, to cover ~6 months of unemployment/injury (in addition to short and long term disability insurance that we have). We treat it as verboten and never touch it, except to slowly add to it over time. Then we have something we refer to as a "super secret savings account", which is just another savings account that we pretend doesn't exist and dump money into bi-weekly. Then at the end of the year, we use it to offset tax withholdings by putting all or most of it into an IRA of some kind. Unfortunately due to some recent BS tax code changes, you can actually get penalized for keeping too much of your own money throughout the year (WTF). We also purposely divert ~10% of each of our paychecks into a mix of deferred comp accounts, Roth IRAs, traditional IRAs, and other pension-related accounts. So before we can spend it, we've already squirreled it away. That's really the key - at least for us. Our final take-home never looks like very much, but it is theoretically all spending cash.
 
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"It's not how much you earn, it's how much you spend." is the wisest phrase anyone ever said to me in regard to living comfortably. I've tried to live by that and with a couple exceptions been successful. I still have more debt than I would like, but it's stuff like mortgages and not big screen TVs and cell phones. Likewise, I would like to take more risks with investments, but it's like a deep RPG to really get into it and stay on top of it.

Overall very good quote. Everyone in the US has to play the game of "Keeping up with Jones". Neighbor got a new car? YOU NEED a new car.

I live INCREDIBLY modestly with my spouse's income our overall house payment is about 5% of our income. Albeit, I don't care for my neighborhood that much - but I consider it a stepping stone since it's our first home. We plan to pay this house off and move that down the line to our next home which we will put the value of the current home into the next.

Most people I know and work with that are around my age are starting off with homes in the $250 - $350k range, all of which are much closer to 25-35% of their income. It's also their first home, so they are also pretty oblivious to what home ownership will entail with other costs such as repairs, replacement, upkeep, taxes, etc...

Anyone hear of Dave Ramsey? I think he's bigger in more Christian/Conservative circles - as those are the people that talk about him the most - but he's a practical financial wizard. His view is based entirely upon really basic, simple principles that we all take for granted day in and day out. This is coming across as a plug, but it's not. I haven't bought any of his books or taken any of his free courses, but a lot of my friends and family quote him often. I've heard interviews and he seems really decent and down to earth dude. It's obvious that he's helped a lot of people avoid the common financial pitfalls. To me, most of his stuff is just common sense that just isn't that common.

Anyway, we try to keep enough in savings as an emergency fund, to cover ~6 months of unemployment/injury (in addition to short and long term disability insurance that we have). We treat it as verboten and never touch it, except to slowly add to it over time. Then we have something we refer to as a "super secret savings account", which is just another savings account that we pretend doesn't exist and dump money into bi-weekly. Then at the end of the year, we use it to offset tax withholdings by putting all or most of it into an IRA of some kind. Unfortunately due to some recent BS tax code changes, you can actually get penalized for keeping too much of your own money throughout the year (WTF). We also purposely divert ~10% of each of our paychecks into a mix of deferred comp accounts, Roth IRAs, traditional IRAs, and other pension-related accounts. So before we can spend it, we've already squirreled it away. That's really the key - at least for us. Our final take-home never looks like very much, but it is theoretically all spending cash.

Dave Ramsey is great if you want to learn absolutely nothing about what you're doing and just live life being a mindless drone.

He teaches things like "snowballing" methodology of paying off debt... basically, pay the lowest amount of debt first, then the next lowest, etc... Nevermind that you're throwing money away because you're too stupid to realize that REGARDLESS of the AMOUNT of debt. You ALWAYS pay off the one with the highest interest.

But hey, whatever works. I still find it sad and pathetic that instead of having people LEARN they would rather just turn them into mindless drones that obeys anything someone says. Not actually learning why or how you would do something.

Also, I hope you're REALLY looking at the tax laws correctly:
1) I'm not sure what you mean by "penalized for keeping too much of your own money throughout the year"... Unless you're simply referring to our progressive tax structure of moving up to the next income bracket.
2) You mention contributing to an IRA and ROTH IRA. There are pretty severe income limits on Traditional (Before tax) IRA's - hope you aren't over that threshold.
 
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IronWing

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Jul 20, 2001
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He teaches things like "snowballing" methodology of paying off debt... basically, pay the lowest amount of debt first, then the next lowest, etc... Nevermind that you're throwing money away because you're too stupid to realize that REGARDLESS of the AMOUNT of debt. You ALWAYS pay off the one with the highest interest.
Where snowballing can help is for folks who are in jobs with unpredictable income. Paying off smaller debts and eliminating minimum payments allows for more flexibility in managing the bigger debts should income take a dive. The cost is paying more interest.
 

dud

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Feb 18, 2001
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A lot.

That's a depressing chart -- 81% are living paycheck to paycheck.



I don't read the chart that way. Let me explain ... having too much money in the bank can be a bad thing. It is a losing proposition as you are losing money to inflation, falling farther behind every year. Don't get me wrong. I probably have too much in the bank myself but other than putting it in your mattress ... where else do you put it? I would much rather invest it but we all need an emergency fund, right?

An old friend of mine used to work as a bank manager. She told me that 90% of their customers appear to live p-to-p.
 

nathanddrews

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Dave Ramsey is great if you want to learn absolutely nothing about what you're doing and just live life being a mindless drone.

He teaches things like "snowballing" methodology of paying off debt... basically, pay the lowest amount of debt first, then the next lowest, etc... Nevermind that you're throwing money away because you're too stupid to realize that REGARDLESS of the AMOUNT of debt. You ALWAYS pay off the one with the highest interest.

But hey, whatever works. I still find it sad and pathetic that instead of having people LEARN they would rather just turn them into mindless drones that obeys anything someone says. Not actually learning why or how you would do something.
I think Ramsey's goal with the snowball method is just to get people excited about paying off debt. It feels good to pay it off, so paying off the smaller one, even if ultimately loses a bit of money teaches the reward of being debt-free being happiness rather than simple debt ratio. As I understand it, it is more of a stepping stone into a deeper financial understanding. Obviously anyone that just follows a set of rules blindly is going to regret it. "Follow this guide step by step and you'll be rich!" isn't the core of his message, but people will take away what suits them.

Also, I hope you're REALLY looking at the tax laws correctly:
1) I'm not sure what you mean by "penalized for keeping too much of your own money throughout the year"... Unless you're simply referring to our progressive tax structure of moving up to the next income bracket.
2) You mention contributing to an IRA and ROTH IRA. There are pretty severe income limits on Traditional (Before tax) IRA's - hope you aren't over that threshold.
For what it's worth, the issue only came up once in 2012 or 2013 and hasn't been an issue since. I don't recall specifics, unfortunately.
 

dullard

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Overall very good quote. Everyone in the US has to play the game of "Keeping up with Jones". Neighbor got a new car? YOU NEED a new car.
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Dave Ramsey is great if you want to learn absolutely nothing about what you're doing and just live life being a mindless drone.
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2) You mention contributing to an IRA and ROTH IRA. There are pretty severe income limits on Traditional (Before tax) IRA's - hope you aren't over that threshold.
My favorite quote is a slight variant on it: "I can buy anything I want, any time I want, because I don't." I like that more because it shows the freedom and power you get from restraint. Rather than just preaching the restraint part. But the overall idea is the same.

Dave Ramsey is great for those who are poor, lost, and want to be middle class. His ideas are horrible for those who are middle class and want to become wealthy. So, he has a certain point and a reason for existing. His ideas can greatly help those who know nothing about finances. I just don't like that his methods are basically shackles that prevent you from doing what is mathematically best to actually become wealthy. Dave Ramsey basically puts a ceiling on your growth. When you are in the gutter, a ceiling might be the least of your worries though.

For those in the know, as long as you file form 8606 and don't keep much (preferably none) in the traditional IRA, you can always contribute to a non-tax-deferred IRA and convert it to a Roth IRA regardless of your income.
 

Tweak155

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Sep 23, 2003
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Over $10k... I don't have a savings account for any tangible advantage, just a mental setting. I already max out 401k, Roth IRA and HSA. I still have more I can invest but I'm not a big risk taker and having specifically a savings account gives me an account that I mentally note that I'm not allowed to draw from so I still save some more.

Every so often I withdraw from it to put towards my mortgage to at least net me the savings on interest. No risk guarantee return on investment, although low.

And now I have a kid on the way so I'll keep some in there to see how that plays out... and then if everything goes smooth I'll probably just chip more in to my mortgage. I will likely set up some sort of education fund although I have not done a lot of research as to the best options, but I don't expect that to stop us from still being able to save.
 

Exterous

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Jun 20, 2006
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some of us just happen to read other forums saw a familiar name and did a double take. congratulations!

don't worry, by the time he's 16 i'm sure they'll have something way better than heroin.

Yeah better watch out brianmanahan - he likes to stalk people across forums
 
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