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eng2d2

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As for the Wifi, just buy a router and connect it to your modem, or as an AP to your gateway. Spectrum can't keep you from using your wifi-connected devices.

As for "spectrum control everything", I guess you're talking about regional cable franchise agreements?

Thank you this is what I did the day I picked up their modem and trying to make it work with my router. Apparently their modem puts restriction on which router to use. Its annoying and at the same time clever to maximize their profit.

Control as in equipment control. You have to register your modem with them. Also regional control.

Anyone know what rate they charge corporate for internet?

I was only getting 35mbps provided by work but enough for me. Now with my paid internet they gave me 200 mbps.
 
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eng2d2

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I can't bring myself to go above my FIOS 75/75 triple play for $150 because while the gigabit monthly rates are low, they are only promo rates. I'm well into a decade of service so no more deals for us. Once the 2-yr promo ends on any new plan, the package will easily go above $200/mo. so I'm sticking with this.



You're lucky you had it this long. I WFH everyday and they stopped paying for us well over a decade ago because having high speed internet at home beyond DSL was the norm already so we should already be paying for it ourselves. They used to reimburse up to $50/mo. - that was pretty sweet.

Yes it was a nice 10 years run until mergers and aquisition. I was grandfathered in and I guess other telecommuters starts demanding the same privelege like we have. I believe they stop offering internet to new hires 3 years ago.

Maybe after my one year is up I might just drive somewhere that has free wifi. There is a lot of free wifi within 2 miles from my house or I can try something else.
 

Ajay

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Jan 8, 2001
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This makes no sense to me. If one ISP has a call/service center in your area that negates any requirement for the local franchise authority to instill competition?
It’s a small city, so it’s a significant number of jobs - no local pol will give permission for the most obvious player to install fiber and associated equipment
 

ElFenix

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i'm facing the wrong way for VZW 5G internet - at $70 for 300 Mbps unlimited, it would have been ~$20 cheaper for a higher tier of service than what i've got with comcast.
 

Ajay

Lifer
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My negotiations with Xfinity did not go so well best of luck.
So long as I get a US representative, I’m all set. If I get someone from India or Vietnam (?) - I just give up and call later.
 

skyking

Lifer
Nov 21, 2001
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I don't think this guy was in India or Vietnam he sounded more Hispanic. Afterward I did a survey and that triggered a call from somebody in the US asking about their performance. I told them that the customer service representative was fine he just didn't have any good news for me. From what I gathered in that discussion, they don't have anything better to offer me right now.
I contacted their competition, a local small cable company that we used have. I got a quote of 150 / 20 and 60 channels of cable via their app in the Amazon Fire stick for $105 out the door. I'm stuck with cable of some sort because of reasons
we're going to go check out how it works at their office tonight. It beats the hell out of $172 from Xfinity including phone. I'm just going to swap over to ooma some other ip phone.
 

balloonshark

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Jun 5, 2008
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I heard others talking about a $15 a month rate hike for suddenlink/altice customers. If that holds true for my area that will put me at over $100 a month for 100/15 which is $25 higher than my budgeted electric bill in an all electric apt. I will be forced to downgrade to 50Mbps which will means I will no longer have unlimited bandwidth since they force you to bump up to 100Mbps to get unlimited. This will be a sad day considering I've been connecting to computers before the internet was even popular. The only other ISP is dsl.
 
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It’s a small city, so it’s a significant number of jobs - no local pol will give permission for the most obvious player to install fiber and associated equipment
When the Feds decided they didn't want the headache that would be by regulating the cable industry from a broadband and television perspective, the sent the regulation down to the states, and within each state they are licensed operators by your local county authority. The county franchise operator issues a license (5, 7 even 10 years at length), but I have yet to hear of a county prohibiting more than one cable operator from existing in said county. This isn't a city-level thing, but a county-level thing.
 

VirtualLarry

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I can't bring myself to go above my FIOS 75/75 triple play for $150 because while the gigabit monthly rates are low, they are only promo rates. I
Search "Verizon Mix and Match FIOS". They have a new pricing policy, they're getting rid of bundles and introductory rates, also "Fees". Do some searching about it.
 

VirtualLarry

No Lifer
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i still have 2 FAR unopened modem from staples.
Probably 4x4 and 8x4 DOCSIS 3.0 modems. Not even usable anymore on Comcast. (Well, possibly the 8x4 might, if were on Essentials or Performance Starter, which is 15/2.)
 

Ajay

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When the Feds decided they didn't want the headache that would be by regulating the cable industry from a broadband and television perspective, the sent the regulation down to the states, and within each state they are licensed operators by your local county authority. The county franchise operator issues a license (5, 7 even 10 years at length), but I have yet to hear of a county prohibiting more than one cable operator from existing in said county. This isn't a city-level thing, but a county-level thing.
City or county, all I could find out is that it was being blocked by local politicians. This city provides most of the jobs in the county by a wide margin.
 

VirtualLarry

No Lifer
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I heard others talking about a $15 a month rate hike for suddenlink/altice customers. If that holds true for my area that will put me at over $100 a month for 100/15 which is $25 higher than my budgeted electric bill in an all electric apt. I will be forced to downgrade to 50Mbps which will means I will no longer have unlimited bandwidth since they force you to bump up to 100Mbps to get unlimited. This will be a sad day considering I've been connecting to computers before the internet was even popular. The only other ISP is dsl.
That's really interesting. May I ask, are you in "rural" area, or metro/suburb area?

They (politicians and policymakers), take about the "digital divide", and shrinking it, and all of that. MOST of time time, they're talking about rural broadband, and hand-in-hand, gov't subsidies for development and deployment.

What's interesting to me, in your case, and I doubt that's unique, is that there is a growing "digital divide" among even the "digerati", the "Haves", in terms of internet service, CAUSED by greedy ISP profit-taking, and ever-increasing rate hikes, and the constant threat of caps.Edit: And lack of competition in terms of choice of ISPs in many areas of the country.

I'm very luck where I'm at, I can get VZ FIOS and Comcast.
 

VirtualLarry

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Thank you this is what I did the day I picked up their modem and trying to make it work with my router. Apparently their modem puts restriction on which router to use. Its annoying and at the same time clever to maximize their profit.

Control as in equipment control. You have to register your modem with them. Also regional control.

Anyone know what rate they charge corporate for internet?

I was only getting 35mbps provided by work but enough for me. Now with my paid internet they gave me 200 mbps.
I still don't get this. Do they allow usage of customer-owned routers AT ALL in conjunction with their modems? (I thought that doing so was a federal requirement, at this point, much like "CableCards".)

If they do, and I feel that they certainly SHOULD, then they CANNOT stop or control what router you choose to use with their equipment (assuming standard ethernet connectivity, etc.), nor can they block or prevent you from using YOUR OWN wifi.

If they've tried to tell you otherwise, I feel that either they are BS'ing you, or you're misunderstanding.

I do believe that Spectrum provides their "modems" (actually, "Gateways", in most cases), as INCLUDED in your ISP rates, and thus DOES NOT provide a discount for using your own, and they may charge a surcharge for using the wifi included on their gateway devices. Both of those factors, IN NO WAY prevent you from buying your own Wifi router and connecting it to their gateway (or modem - and if they allow you to use a real only-modem, not a gateway, which is a modem/router/AP, then if you plan to use your own router, I would go that route).
 

Red Squirrel

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That's one thing I do find annoying with lot of ISPs now is they practically force you to use their modem/router becauce they are combos now. So you end up with double NAT which is annoying. For my particular ISP though I was able to find enough technical info online that explained how it worked, and it was enough for me to figure out how to not use their router. For my case the way it works is the internet comes on it's own vlan out of the ONT. So I just plug my firewall straight into it, and set the WAN port to use that vlan. When I had TV service I could not get it to work though. Basically the TV vlan had some QOS stuff on it which I did not know how to setup well or didn't have the right equipment to do so. The TV would work then cut out. Then I found more info where someone wrote a custom firmware for an Asus router and if you install that firmware and use that router instead, it essentially let you split the internet and TV and the internet port was a passive internet so you did not need to do a double NAT, while the other ports worked for TV. Now I don't have TV anymore so I just plug straight to the ONT with proper vlan setup in pfsense.
 

eng2d2

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I still don't get this. Do they allow usage of customer-owned routers AT ALL in conjunction with their modems? (I thought that doing so was a federal requirement, at this point, much like "CableCards".)

If they do, and I feel that they certainly SHOULD, then they CANNOT stop or control what router you choose to use with their equipment (assuming standard ethernet connectivity, etc.), nor can they block or prevent you from using YOUR OWN wifi.

If they've tried to tell you otherwise, I feel that either they are BS'ing you, or you're misunderstanding.

I do believe that Spectrum provides their "modems" (actually, "Gateways", in most cases), as INCLUDED in your ISP rates, and thus DOES NOT provide a discount for using your own, and they may charge a surcharge for using the wifi included on their gateway devices. Both of those factors, IN NO WAY prevent you from buying your own Wifi router and connecting it to their gateway (or modem - and if they allow you to use a real only-modem, not a gateway, which is a modem/router/AP, then if you plan to use your own router, I would go that route).

When I picked up my modem and installed it, I tried several router and none of it worked. After playing with it for several hours I gave up. I had a feeling that my issue was I wanted the 44.95 special for one year and they made sure that I would pay extra $5 to receive wifi. I guess you can say that they gave me a modem that would only work with their issued router. I googled my issue and found out there are a lot of old post by people who are having the same issue as me. I read of One solution was to get a modem that is compatible with spectrum. I purchased a modem and after registering my modem with spectrum everything worked again like before when I had my company paid internet. I can now use my wifi. They make it difficult for me because I told them that I just need internet to do my work at home. They ask me if I want wifi and I said no but I had the intention of using wifi with my router so I guess thats why the gave me a router with limited function and anything I want extra I have to pay for it.

The special they are running right now is for 49.95/mo for 1 year but around the holidays they were sending out special flyers for 44.95 /mo for 1 year the special expires on dec 31. However, I received a flyer in the mail that advertise for $44.95 and they forgot to put exp. date of dec.31. I argued with them about this flyer and finally they relented. So when I tried my router and it did not work I wasn't about to call them and argue with them about wifi. We agreed to on a 44.95 /month price without wifi. But like you said they cannot stop me from using their or my wifi.

  • Internet Speed: ↓100 Mbps and ↑10 Mbps
  • Connection: Cable
  • Modem included.
  • Data Caps: No Caps
  • Price: $49.99/mo
  • 1-year promo rate. Regular rate is $69.99.
I got this promo for 44.99 for 1 year
 
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balloonshark

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That's really interesting. May I ask, are you in "rural" area, or metro/suburb area?

They (politicians and policymakers), take about the "digital divide", and shrinking it, and all of that. MOST of time time, they're talking about rural broadband, and hand-in-hand, gov't subsidies for development and deployment.

What's interesting to me, in your case, and I doubt that's unique, is that there is a growing "digital divide" among even the "digerati", the "Haves", in terms of internet service, CAUSED by greedy ISP profit-taking, and ever-increasing rate hikes, and the constant threat of caps.Edit: And lack of competition in terms of choice of ISPs in many areas of the country.

I'm very luck where I'm at, I can get VZ FIOS and Comcast.
I live in rural WV in a town of less than 10,000. My internet used to be $30 until Suddenlink did a bunch of "free upgrades" with a cost increase happening every year after each "free upgrade". After Alitce (A french ISP) took over the rate hikes really started to jump. I used to have 50Mbps but they added a 250GB cap so I had to upgrade to 100Mbps just to remove the cap.

Suddenlink has a vitual monopoly in many rural areas across the US. I'm pretty sure this is why Altice bought them out. They also screwed WV over since I'm pretty sure Suddenlink agreed to put in a call center in WV as a favor but last I heard Altice closed it. They also closed my local office and now you have to drive an hour round trip to return any equipment.
 
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rh71

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Search "Verizon Mix and Match FIOS". They have a new pricing policy, they're getting rid of bundles and introductory rates, also "Fees". Do some searching about it.

Thanks, I noticed my contract was up in 2 months and looks like another $20 increase incoming so I started looking for options again. I actually came across that mix & match yesterday before I saw your post, although many reports indicate existing users are having a tough time with switching to it. I decided to use my wife's name as a new customer instead and after going through chat, I'm FINALLY getting off these bundles and doing 200/200 for $40 (promo) and Youtube TV ($50) along with a $2.49 fee and no taxes. Love that last part, and we'll have to see about YT TV. Surprised FIOS is onboard with that at all, but it appears there's no catch and they give a month free.
 

VirtualLarry

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I just checked out the Mix and Match page on My Verizon, I agree with the peeps on DSLR, seems like a thinly-disguised rate hike to those of us on promo bundles. I'm paying $96.99 for Gigabit FIOS Internet and Custom TV, and renting a new "FIOS Home Router" (the G3100), the rental it seems is free with the Gigabit package.

I was hoping to drop the TV portion (I only signed up for a double-play, last time they were offering stuff, because it actually made my Gigabit internet CHEAPER if I took the TV bundle, by a few bucks.)

I figured, Mix and Match, I can finally drop TV online, and won't have to deal with a rep. NOPE. Mix and Match bundle for same/similar services, went up to like $146.99. NO THANKS VERIZON. It would have put me out of contract, however.

And those deals, like $39.99 for 200/200 internet, are only for NEW CUSTOMERS. I was offered 100/100 for $49.99, 200/200 for $49.99, and 400/400 for $59.99, and Gigabit for $89.99, for just the internet portion. Heck, I'm only paying $96.99 (plus taxes and fees, though no RSN fee), for Gigabit FIOS AND TV (of which, I never connected my STB.)
 
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