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[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Twista
Okay, took it out there in the snow. much better with all the weight back there. I can actually take off without the ass swerving badly. Yes, i did some testing and if i take off in the snow with alittle gas the ass end still goes nuts. But with the weight i can take off like normal and ALL is well.

Well you still need to learn how to drive. I'm not slamming you, but you should be EASILY able to control the power with the clutch and gas. Heck you could hold 1/2 throttle and still EASILY take off, at the expense of your clutch.

Something is very wrong if your ass is swerving. If when taking off you realize you have too much power and the wheels are slipping then depress the clutch somewhat to take power away from the drivetrain/wheels.

What year? Do you have traction control? Maybe spend a couple weekends in a snow covered parking lot to practice. Not only is it some of the most fun you will ever have, you'll learn a lot. Of course if you have summer tires or other tires that are not meant to be used in the snow no amount of skill can overcome hard snowpacked rubber on snow - it's like driving on ice. No traction whatsoever.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Twista
Okay, took it out there in the snow. much better with all the weight back there. I can actually take off without the ass swerving badly. Yes, i did some testing and if i take off in the snow with alittle gas the ass end still goes nuts. But with the weight i can take off like normal and ALL is well.

Well you still need to learn how to drive. I'm not slamming you, but you should be EASILY able to control the power with the clutch and gas. Heck you could hold 1/2 throttle and still EASILY take off, at the expense of your clutch.

Something is very wrong if your ass is swerving. If when taking off you realize you have too much power and the wheels are slipping then depress the clutch somewhat to take power away from the drivetrain/wheels.

What year? Do you have traction control? Maybe spend a couple weekends in a snow covered parking lot to practice. Not only is it some of the most fun you will ever have, you'll learn a lot.

thats what i did. my dad took em to a K-mart parking lot in the winter and i drove a 1990 acura integra. i

 

[Twista]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Twista
Okay, took it out there in the snow. much better with all the weight back there. I can actually take off without the ass swerving badly. Yes, i did some testing and if i take off in the snow with alittle gas the ass end still goes nuts. But with the weight i can take off like normal and ALL is well.

Well you still need to learn how to drive. I'm not slamming you, but you should be EASILY able to control the power with the clutch and gas. Heck you could hold 1/2 throttle and still EASILY take off, at the expense of your clutch.

Something is very wrong if your ass is swerving. If when taking off you realize you have too much power and the wheels are slipping then depress the clutch somewhat to take power away from the drivetrain/wheels.

What year? Do you have traction control? Maybe spend a couple weekends in a snow covered parking lot to practice. Not only is it some of the most fun you will ever have, you'll learn a lot. Of course if you have summer tires or other tires that are not meant to be used in the snow no amount of skill can overcome hard snowpacked rubber on snow - it's like driving on ice. No traction whatsoever.

Not very fun when your stuck on the main street trying to push the clutch in than push it back out taking away power from your drivetrain. I mean you shouldn't have to do that. Thats why so many people have a daily driver when they have a light RWD car. No, the car doesnt have Traction control which only came as an option on 1999+ year mustangs.

Thanks for the reply though.


:/ Sorry waggy but a acura integra and a v8 mustang is a big difference in snow/slush.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Twista
Okay, took it out there in the snow. much better with all the weight back there. I can actually take off without the ass swerving badly. Yes, i did some testing and if i take off in the snow with alittle gas the ass end still goes nuts. But with the weight i can take off like normal and ALL is well.

Well you still need to learn how to drive. I'm not slamming you, but you should be EASILY able to control the power with the clutch and gas. Heck you could hold 1/2 throttle and still EASILY take off, at the expense of your clutch.

Something is very wrong if your ass is swerving. If when taking off you realize you have too much power and the wheels are slipping then depress the clutch somewhat to take power away from the drivetrain/wheels.

What year? Do you have traction control? Maybe spend a couple weekends in a snow covered parking lot to practice. Not only is it some of the most fun you will ever have, you'll learn a lot.

thats what i did. my dad took em to a K-mart parking lot in the winter and i drove a 1990 acura integra. i

I think every driver should take their car to a snow covered parking lot and drive around at 50 Mph throwing it all over the place purposefully throwing it into a spin or slide and hard braking just to get accustomed to it.

I'm serious. After a few sessions you'll get the idea and be MUCH better prepared than most. Hell, it's what me and my buddies did when teenagers for fun on saturday night. good times, good times.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Twista

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Twista
Okay, took it out there in the snow. much better with all the weight back there. I can actually take off without the ass swerving badly. Yes, i did some testing and if i take off in the snow with alittle gas the ass end still goes nuts. But with the weight i can take off like normal and ALL is well.

Well you still need to learn how to drive. I'm not slamming you, but you should be EASILY able to control the power with the clutch and gas. Heck you could hold 1/2 throttle and still EASILY take off, at the expense of your clutch.

Something is very wrong if your ass is swerving. If when taking off you realize you have too much power and the wheels are slipping then depress the clutch somewhat to take power away from the drivetrain/wheels.

What year? Do you have traction control? Maybe spend a couple weekends in a snow covered parking lot to practice. Not only is it some of the most fun you will ever have, you'll learn a lot. Of course if you have summer tires or other tires that are not meant to be used in the snow no amount of skill can overcome hard snowpacked rubber on snow - it's like driving on ice. No traction whatsoever.

Not very fun when your stuck on the main street trying to push the clutch in than push it back out taking away power from your drivetrain. I mean you shouldn't have to do that. Thats why so many people have a daily driver when they have a light RWD car. No, the car doesnt have Traction control which only came as an option on 1999+ year mustangs.

Thanks for the reply though.


:/ Sorry waggy but a acura integra and a v8 mustang is a big difference in snow/slush.

its not a that big a diffrence when you are learning how to control the clutch.

i went from a honda Accord to a mustang gt. it took me a week to get used to the power diffrence. i rarly had a problem in the winter.

 

[Twista]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Twista
Okay, took it out there in the snow. much better with all the weight back there. I can actually take off without the ass swerving badly. Yes, i did some testing and if i take off in the snow with alittle gas the ass end still goes nuts. But with the weight i can take off like normal and ALL is well.

Well you still need to learn how to drive. I'm not slamming you, but you should be EASILY able to control the power with the clutch and gas. Heck you could hold 1/2 throttle and still EASILY take off, at the expense of your clutch.

Something is very wrong if your ass is swerving. If when taking off you realize you have too much power and the wheels are slipping then depress the clutch somewhat to take power away from the drivetrain/wheels.

What year? Do you have traction control? Maybe spend a couple weekends in a snow covered parking lot to practice. Not only is it some of the most fun you will ever have, you'll learn a lot.

thats what i did. my dad took em to a K-mart parking lot in the winter and i drove a 1990 acura integra. i

I think every driver should take their car to a snow covered parking lot and drive around at 50 Mph throwing it all over the place purposefully throwing it into a spin or slide and hard braking just to get accustomed to it.

I'm serious. After a few sessions you'll get the idea and be MUCH better prepared than most. Hell, it's what me and my buddies did when teenagers for fun on saturday night. good times, good times.

Alot of youngin (17-25) still do this for fun on the 1st snow day.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Twista
Not very fun when your stuck on the main street trying to push the clutch in than push it back out taking away power from your drivetrain. I mean you shouldn't have to do that. Thats why so many people have a daily driver when they have a light RWD car. No, the car doesnt have Traction control which only came as an option on 1999+ year mustangs.

Thanks for the reply though.


:/ Sorry waggy but a acura integra and a v8 mustang is a big difference in snow/slush.

Learn to feather the throttle then. It really does sound like you need tires better suited to snow if it's that bad. If you're going up a hill then I can understand, but not of flat ground.

Do go practice on a parking lot. There truly is a point where you just don't have enough traction and the weight can help, but it has to be some pretty bad tires to get where your traction is that slick.

 

[LennyZ]

Adding extra weight to aid traction is a dumb idea due to the fact it makes STOPPING harder due to the extra weight on ice and snow.

I would rather be able to stop sooner.

 

[Twista]

My tires are perfect for dry/wet (rain) weather, but once you add stuff with layers than add SLUSH.. the traction is cut in half.



Also, wider tires are bad for snow and i dont have the stock size also so yes my wide tires play a factor with all this sliding also. I was just looking for something to help add weight which would make my driving experience easy when i have to drive the car.

pics of tires- http://img.photobucket.com/alb...newjwheelstiresz/2.jpg

If she was stock with skinny stock tires or even skinner tires i bet all this advice you guys giving would be right on point with winter driving. Its good advice, but once you start changing little things on the car and adding power and changing wheels it gets tuff to drive it during bad weather.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Twista
My tires are perfect for dry/wet (rain) weather, but once you add stuff with layers than add SLUSH.. the traction is cut in half.



Also, wider tires are bad for snow and i dont have the stock size also so yes my wide tires play a factor with all this sliding also. I was just looking for something to help add weight which would make my driving experience easy when i have to drive the car.

pics of tires- http://img.photobucket.com/alb...newjwheelstiresz/2.jpg

Sorry bud, it's your tires. Not much you can do. Post the model.

I keep high performance tires on my car and they absolutely SUCK in the snow. No amount of skill can overcome poor traction and packed tires. Mine quickly become useless after 30 seconds in the snow. And by useless I mean driving on ice useless. If there is any grade to the road I'm not going anywhere.

-edit-
Looking at your tires those REALLY look like they'd be impossible in the winter from the low-res pick. The toe-in isn't helping either as that is great for dry, it only worsens your grab in snow.

 

[imported_Baloo]

Originally posted by: Twista

Originally posted by: spidey07
Why not a few bags of kitty litter? Topsoil isn't cheap unless you buy bulk. And 50 pounds IS NOT BULK.

i dont think a few bags of kitty litter is enough weight for a light end RWD car =[

Clay based cat litter is much denser than top soil, a few bags of kitty litter would do better than a few bags of topsoil.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Twista

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Twista
Okay, took it out there in the snow. much better with all the weight back there. I can actually take off without the ass swerving badly. Yes, i did some testing and if i take off in the snow with alittle gas the ass end still goes nuts. But with the weight i can take off like normal and ALL is well.

Well you still need to learn how to drive. I'm not slamming you, but you should be EASILY able to control the power with the clutch and gas. Heck you could hold 1/2 throttle and still EASILY take off, at the expense of your clutch.

Something is very wrong if your ass is swerving. If when taking off you realize you have too much power and the wheels are slipping then depress the clutch somewhat to take power away from the drivetrain/wheels.

What year? Do you have traction control? Maybe spend a couple weekends in a snow covered parking lot to practice. Not only is it some of the most fun you will ever have, you'll learn a lot. Of course if you have summer tires or other tires that are not meant to be used in the snow no amount of skill can overcome hard snowpacked rubber on snow - it's like driving on ice. No traction whatsoever.

Not very fun when your stuck on the main street trying to push the clutch in than push it back out taking away power from your drivetrain. I mean you shouldn't have to do that. Thats why so many people have a daily driver when they have a light RWD car. No, the car doesnt have Traction control which only came as an option on 1999+ year mustangs.

Thanks for the reply though.


:/ Sorry waggy but a acura integra and a v8 mustang is a big difference in snow/slush.

A mustang isn't a light car anymore...

Instead of driving it 'hard' in the snow, why not wait for better weather.

Also you shouldn't have to have snow to practice sliding with a V8...on ice you are just going for a ride anyway. Find a wet parking lot and practice with good tires.

 

[Twista]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Twista

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Twista
Okay, took it out there in the snow. much better with all the weight back there. I can actually take off without the ass swerving badly. Yes, i did some testing and if i take off in the snow with alittle gas the ass end still goes nuts. But with the weight i can take off like normal and ALL is well.

Well you still need to learn how to drive. I'm not slamming you, but you should be EASILY able to control the power with the clutch and gas. Heck you could hold 1/2 throttle and still EASILY take off, at the expense of your clutch.

Something is very wrong if your ass is swerving. If when taking off you realize you have too much power and the wheels are slipping then depress the clutch somewhat to take power away from the drivetrain/wheels.

What year? Do you have traction control? Maybe spend a couple weekends in a snow covered parking lot to practice. Not only is it some of the most fun you will ever have, you'll learn a lot. Of course if you have summer tires or other tires that are not meant to be used in the snow no amount of skill can overcome hard snowpacked rubber on snow - it's like driving on ice. No traction whatsoever.

Not very fun when your stuck on the main street trying to push the clutch in than push it back out taking away power from your drivetrain. I mean you shouldn't have to do that. Thats why so many people have a daily driver when they have a light RWD car. No, the car doesnt have Traction control which only came as an option on 1999+ year mustangs.

Thanks for the reply though.


:/ Sorry waggy but a acura integra and a v8 mustang is a big difference in snow/slush.

A mustang isn't a light car anymore...

Instead of driving it 'hard' in the snow, why not wait for better weather.

Also you shouldn't have to have snow to practice sliding with a V8...on ice you are just going for a ride anyway. Find a wet parking lot and practice with good tires.

i didnt mean driving it hard in the snow. Someone mentioned all the weight would suck for gas mileage and i said i drive the car hard so gas mileage already sucks for me.

But anyways, its still snowing out there and i just took her out before the snow plows could get anything. Shes way more tame now with the 240 pounds back there, but still easy to break loose if i try. Howver, like before i can drive @20mph with no problem long as i keep the gas pedal even with no sudden jump. 20mph plus bad streets is good enough for me to travel places in the snow if i "NEED" to.