How much does your solar roof cost?

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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$68,000 dollars for a solar roof.... No.

I paid $75,000 for the house 24 years ago.
 

local

Golden Member
Jun 28, 2011
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$70k install with a net loss of $6k after 30 years. Not gonna happen. But I fully support the people who do this as it brings the price down faster for us poor people and it is pretty cool tech.
 
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I'm bewildered by the questions of square footage and stories. First, what does square footage have on the matter and how is that going to affect price if that square footage is on one floor or three? Next, if my lot of sloped and I have a daylight or walk-out basement do I count it as a floor or not? Will, $38.4K and this doesn't include the costs of buying out the HOA board, altering the covenants to allow for a solar roof, etc.
 
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Feneant2

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In Canada we can't use the calculator, the only option on the site is
Place Your Order for $1,330
But it doesn't say what you are ordering, it just says to enter your info and they bill you 1330$ ...
 

dud

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Feb 18, 2001
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$62,600 including $7K for a Powerwall. "Net" benefit of about $9K over 30 years ... making a LOT of assumptions about cost per kWhr, ect.

No way Elon ...
 

JackBurton

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Hmmm, mines not bad, ~$54K with 2 battery backups. Sounds like a better deal than buying a $55K car which will depreciate to close to $0 after 15 years. Not to mention it would cut fuel cost if you owned a Tesla (Model 3?).
 

steppinthrax

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Jul 17, 2006
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I have roughly a 3K sq foot home and they are quoting around 50K to install and you get a return of 8K in around 30 years. Hell no and Fuck You.

I've already priced traditional solar panels with inverted/wiring everything for around 18K. Based on my electrical needs I will come within 15% of netzero, more likely less with a new heat pump. This is a DIY kit, you install the tracks, lock the panels and do the wiring to the inverter. The power company installs a free netzero meter. I would pay a bill in the winter and get a credit in the summer. The system would pay itself off in 8 years or so (conservatively).

Other issue I have is the cosmetics. These are designed to look like roofing shingles, so how do you cut them, LOL??? Ok so you lay these directly on top of your existing shingles or do these replace your shingles. Otherwise, you'd need to plan the layout so that it blends in with the pattern of your existing shingles. My point is the product should be designed so that I can tear my old shingles off, lay some new tar paper and nail these down like shingles. I should be able to cut them around my plumbing boots. So I have solar coverage end-to-end.

That would make it a little more worth it, because when some people go solar, they realize they need to replace their roof since the shingles are going bad. This would then save several thousand dollars???
 

PricklyPete

Lifer
Sep 17, 2002
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52k with 9k being made in 30 years.

I wouldn't consider this right now, but there is a good chance that we will be popping the top of our house in the next 5 years. At that point I would seriously consider. I am interested to hear about longevity of the system from early adopters. We have some crazy hail here...and I wouldn't want to put in a system that is going to require constant maintenance.
 

dud

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Feb 18, 2001
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Hmmm, mines not bad, ~$54K with 2 battery backups. Sounds like a better deal than buying a $55K car which will depreciate to close to $0 after 15 years. Not to mention it would cut fuel cost if you owned a Tesla (Model 3?).



Wha?

Where did you come up with the idea of comparing a car with a residential solar power generation system? How do you plan to get around ... drive your solar system? Anyone who spends $54K on a vehicle deserves (or hopefully can afford) that rapid depreciation. I must be poor because I've spent $63K on the last four (4) vehicles that I've purchased back to 1994.
 

steppinthrax

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Jul 17, 2006
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Wha?

Where did you come up with the idea of comparing a car with a residential solar power generation system? How do you plan to get around ... drive your solar system? Anyone who spends $54K on a vehicle deserves (or hopefully can afford) that rapid depreciation. I must be poor because I've spent $63K on the last four (4) vehicles that I've purchased back to 1994.

Cars depreciate over time. Example a 1995 Bentley was worth around 110K in today's money in 1995, now you can get one in great condition for around 3K. Especially if you are spending 55K on a car, it's likely luxury, It drops value like a bitch. If you want to get around, you can with a ford tarus. A solar roof will offer a ROI, a car generally dosen't.
 

NoCreativity

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Feb 28, 2008
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I'm bewildered by the questions of square footage and stories. First, what does square footage have on the matter and how is that going to affect price if that square footage is on one floor or three? Next, if my lot of sloped and I have a daylight or walk-out basement do I count it as a floor or not? Will, $38.4K and this doesn't include the costs of buying out the HOA board, altering the covenants to allow for a solar roof, etc.

If I have a 2000 sq ft house that is one floor the roof is substantially larger than two story 2000 sq ft house. They are obviously making an assumption on how much labor and material it takes to roof per sq ft of house.

$79.5K with a $16.9k return after 30 years.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Still too much money. Take the difference in cost between a traditional roof and this, invest it in Tesla. Profit.
 
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IronWing

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Jul 20, 2001
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We are going to need a new roof in the next five-ten years. Our current roof is almost fifty years old and wasn't well built to begin with. A solar roof might make sense as we would be replacing the roof anyway. So far, every time we've run the numbers on solar, it's a money loser for us. I like the idea of solar but I don't like throwing money away.
 

dud

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Feb 18, 2001
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Cars depreciate over time. Example a 1995 Bentley was worth around 110K in today's money in 1995, now you can get one in great condition for around 3K. Especially if you are spending 55K on a car, it's likely luxury, It drops value like a bitch. If you want to get around, you can with a ford tarus. A solar roof will offer a ROI, a car generally dosen't.



Thank you for proving my point.
 

madoka

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Jun 22, 2004
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Interesting. . . Tesla radically changed the calculator from yesterday. Before it assumed that your house was always one story, so if you had a 3000 sq. foot house, you needed roughly a 3000 sq. foot roof. Now it asks you how many stories. My new estimate went down to $78,600.
 

gorb

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Feb 25, 2011
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$49,600 Value of energy
-$52,200 Cost of roof
-$7,000 Cost of Powerwall battery
+$15,400 Tax credit


$5,800
Net earned over 30 years
 

Murloc

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I'm bewildered by the questions of square footage and stories. First, what does square footage have on the matter and how is that going to affect price if that square footage is on one floor or three? Next, if my lot of sloped and I have a daylight or walk-out basement do I count it as a floor or not? Will, $38.4K and this doesn't include the costs of buying out the HOA board, altering the covenants to allow for a solar roof, etc.
if you want to crudely estimate the surface of the roof you divide the area by the number of stories.
 

Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Feb 14, 2004
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I'm bewildered by the questions of square footage and stories. First, what does square footage have on the matter and how is that going to affect price if that square footage is on one floor or three? Next, if my lot of sloped and I have a daylight or walk-out basement do I count it as a floor or not? Will, $38.4K and this doesn't include the costs of buying out the HOA board, altering the covenants to allow for a solar roof, etc.

My guess is that the more floors you have, the more power you need for heating, cooling, and other systems & appliances.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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$54,600 for my property in SC, $8,300 over 30 years. Hypothetically I could probably get away with charging more than market value on rent because of it, if the tenants are saving $100-200/mo in electricity costs (A/C is FU expensive down there). If I cranked another $100 out of them, that's good for another $36k over that same timeframe, bringing the total net earned of the project to around $44k. Better than a kick in the teeth.

If hypothetically I did this where I am now (further north), I'd do 100% coverage and lean very heavily on some BTC mining. Let the sun make me some extra free moneys.
 

dullard

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May 21, 2001
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Other issue I have is the cosmetics. These are designed to look like roofing shingles, so how do you cut them, LOL??? Ok so you lay these directly on top of your existing shingles or do these replace your shingles. Otherwise, you'd need to plan the layout so that it blends in with the pattern of your existing shingles. My point is the product should be designed so that I can tear my old shingles off, lay some new tar paper and nail these down like shingles. I should be able to cut them around my plumbing boots. So I have solar coverage end-to-end.

That would make it a little more worth it, because when some people go solar, they realize they need to replace their roof since the shingles are going bad. This would then save several thousand dollars???
They have both solar and non-solar tiles that look identical. So, you cut the non-solar tiles when you need to go around some obstruction. Tesla estimates a maximum of 70% coverage of the solar tiles.

While you can place these on an old building (Tesla will tear off your old roof as part of the install), I think their main target market is new homes in areas that don't typically use shingles (slate and tile) which are already high cost ($40k+) installs. This way you can design the house to have a roof that is oriented to the proper direction of the sun.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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They have both solar and non-solar tiles that look identical. So, you cut the non-solar tiles when you need to go around some obstruction. Tesla estimates a maximum of 70% coverage of the solar tiles.

While you can place these on an old building (Tesla will tear off your old roof as part of the install), I think their main target market is new homes in areas that don't typically use shingles (slate and tile) which are already high cost ($40k+) installs. This way you can design the house to have a roof that is oriented to the proper direction of the sun.

This is exactly what I'd do. If I were building a new house today, I'd get these installed without a second thought, as I'd want a no-shit long term roof (outlast me if possible) and if that's gonna cost me, might as well get something out of it.

Plus I wouldn't want to look silly and be that last holdout in the neighborhood that doesn't generate his own electricity in 30 years' time 'to save money'.
 

steppinthrax

Diamond Member
Jul 17, 2006
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This is exactly what I'd do. If I were building a new house today, I'd get these installed without a second thought, as I'd want a no-shit long term roof (outlast me if possible) and if that's gonna cost me, might as well get something out of it.

Plus I wouldn't want to look silly and be that last holdout in the neighborhood that doesn't generate his own electricity in 30 years' time 'to save money'.

It won't, unless they are using some multi-junction space aged solar panels. Much of the cost is in the solar panel packaging. It has some special impact resistant glass on top. The underlying solar cell is probably just a typical Mono-Crystalline cell.

After 30 years of use the solar panel will be depleted and will need replacement. That's roughly around the same time as a roofing shingle. LOL. So there is little difference. You pay 50K for a 10K roof upgrade that will give you around 8K back ROI.
 
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