They have both solar and non-solar tiles that look identical. So, you cut the non-solar tiles when you need to go around some obstruction. Tesla estimates a maximum of 70% coverage of the solar tiles.
While you can place these on an old building (Tesla will tear off your old roof as part of the install), I think their main target market is new homes in areas that don't typically use shingles (slate and tile) which are already high cost ($40k+) installs. This way you can design the house to have a roof that is oriented to the proper direction of the sun.
It won't, unless they are using some multi-junction space aged solar panels. Much of the cost is in the solar panel packaging. It has some special impact resistant glass on top. The underlying solar cell is probably just a typical Mono-Crystalline cell.
After 30 years of use the solar panel will be depleted and will need replacement. That's roughly around the same time as a roofing shingle. LOL. So there is little difference. You pay 50K for a 10K roof upgrade that will give you around 8K back ROI.
Well, the tiles themselves have an 'infinite warranty', aka until the house collapses or until Tesla isn't a company anymore. So it's more like you pay 50k for a roof that gives you an 8k ROI and you never think about your roof again as an added bonus.
But yes the cell replacement is a valid point. Maybe they'll provide a prorated swap program in 30 years? Or maybe I won't care by then because new stuff will be available?
I don't care about the warranty. As a matter of fact If they offer this w/o the warranty and cheaper I would also take it. I"ve done plenty of research to find that very little goes wrong with solar cells. The inverters would go before the cell and the inverters are also pretty reliable. The battery is just bullshit and I would not want it, it's a LiPoly cell that just charge/discharge. You'd want to grid-tie the system and cell the power back to the company. So your power company would be the battery. They are just using that "infinite warranty" bullshit to get people hooked.
If a tree falls on your roof, your property insurance would take care of the cost likely. My point is that the cost is simply too high for the justification. I've already priced a 18K TRADITIONAL system that has a much quicker ROI, a ROI after 8 years, problem is that it dosen't come out to netzero. This system may come out to netzero, but solar panel efficiency would go up right after you purchase this system. I'm curious what type of solar panels they are using.
I believe solar panel efficiency right now is 15 - 18%. LG sells an expensive panel that has a 25% efficiency. There is kinda like a Moores Law for solar panel efficiency. I think in 5 years or so we will see 30% efficiency for typical price as a 15% now.
They will probably be a solar panel fabric available after 30 years LOL. Or shit, maybe GAP (Home Depot) will have shingles that you just nail to your roof like asphalt shingles that have built in inverters in each shingle. The price would be so cheap that no one cares.
You're 100% right on all of the above, but Tesla is marketing this as 'The Apple Solution', as in, an easy, pretty, cradle-to-grave solution for people that know nothing about solar, power storage, or probably even ROI in general.
You can make more, faster from an investment of a home-grown solution if you do the research, plan it right, and get some nice high-quality cells, etc. Or you can just give Tesla 60k to put tiles on your million dollar house and not worry about it. It's identical to Apple's approach to everything.
LOL, we are assuming everyone in ATOT has a million dollar house and a 100K Tesla.
Well, I make a high salary (excess of 6-figures) and live in a large home and I will climb up on my roof, install my solar cells and laugh at my neighbor who spends 60K on something that I spent 18K on.
Yeah, I was being facetious on purpose. Basically in my head I'm thinking of homeowners in southwestern CA buying these installs up in droves. I laugh every time I see someone buy/use an Apple computer as well, but Apple still has more scratch than anyone in the business. This will sell, and well, all while being shitcanned by nerds saying 'you can do it cheeeaaappeerrrr' just like I've been hollering at everyone I know with computers for the last two decades.
In Canada we can't use the calculator, the only option on the site is
Place Your Order for $1,330
But it doesn't say what you are ordering, it just says to enter your info and they bill you 1330$ ...
Something is not right, $98k for solar panel system and $73k net earned over 30yr.
You're 100% right on all of the above, but Tesla is marketing this as 'The Apple Solution', as in, an easy, pretty, cradle-to-grave solution for people that know nothing about solar, power storage, or probably even ROI in general.
If the warranty is transferable. LolWouldn't having a solar roof with a lifetime warranty add value to your house though?
One of the things that I was surprised by the last time I had my roof replaced was the software they had at their disposal to know exactly how my roof was created in terms of square footage and every dormer, etc., on it. This wasn't something they needed to measure, but apparently had very detailed visual data I could only guessed came from some thing like a Bird's Eye view. They even know that the front of my home was two stories and three on the back (daylight/walkout basement).if you want to crudely estimate the surface of the roof you divide the area by the number of stories.
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One of the things that I was surprised by the last time I had my roof replaced was the software they had at their disposal to know exactly how my roof was created in terms of square footage and every dormer, etc., on it. This wasn't something they needed to measure, but apparently had very detailed visual data I could only guessed came from some thing like a Bird's Eye view. They even know that the front of my home was two stories and three on the back (daylight/walkout basement).
I would think that Tesla was smart enough to have access to this kind of software/data to simple get a very accurate measure, orientation and type of roof design and place that into an automated workflow on their website. But maybe they are more focused on rockets and cars.
Only one home there is a real house. The rest are computer generated images. It makes sense considering that the other tiles say "coming soon".Every house in the pictures also owns a Tesla. I doubt its marketing.
It won't, unless they are using some multi-junction space aged solar panels. Much of the cost is in the solar panel packaging. It has some special impact resistant glass on top. The underlying solar cell is probably just a typical Mono-Crystalline cell.
After 30 years of use the solar panel will be depleted and will need replacement. That's roughly around the same time as a roofing shingle. LOL. So there is little difference. You pay 50K for a 10K roof upgrade that will give you around 8K back ROI.
Solar cells are very redundant, you can use a pair of scissors to cut a cell away and it will still generate electricity. I would have liked them to incorporate that type of ability. Just that you would need multiple cell terminals, if you cut the entire thing in half. 70% roof coverage is not very much. End to End minus plumbing boots/skylights should be much much more than 70%....
LOL, we are assuming everyone in ATOT has a million dollar house and a 100K Tesla.
Well, I make a high salary (excess of 6-figures) and live in a large home and I will climb up on my roof, install my solar cells and laugh at my neighbor who spends 60K on something that I spent 18K on.