How much GOD loves Us!

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: rise

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: rise

Originally posted by: manowar821
when original thought fails me, i quote others.

I could go on for hours with my own material, but that would bore people and accomplish nothing. I'd rather just copy pasta and then I'd feel better about wasting 2 minutes on you than 2 hours busting out my own lecture.

Enjoy your high horse, though!

bah, you took that all wrong. i was applauding your ability to copy and pasta.

Ooh, my bad.

 

[rise]

Originally posted by: manowar821
Ooh, my bad.

still friends? lol

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
this thread is terrible

I'll try and spice it up.

Did anyone notice all the black people they used to portray evil and temptation? I mean if it wasn't for the one white girl (although she was fat...)

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: rise

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
I think this is worth repeating

Originally posted by: Maleficus
It's good to see the tolerant left out in force.

Learn difference between tolerance and pandering. Sorry, but some of us don't feel the need to pander to the erroneous beliefs of others. But keep playing that victim card, it seems to be working for you.

seems you have no idea of what tolerance is, otherwise you would have passed on this thread. but it's good to see tolerant people, such as yourself, declaring other's beliefs "erroneous".

dark days indeed.

Where's your tolerance for my intolerance? We could do this dance all day.

You have a warped view of what tolerance is. Or am I being intolerant of your erroneous definition? Oh wait I called your definition erroneous! Oh shit, I'm being intolerant! Now I'm being intolerant of myself! Help, help! I'm being oppressed!

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: Rogodin2
Nietzsche destroyed god in 1886 without much trouble.

Rogo

Yeah, except he was wrong. God isn't dead. God is irrelevant.

 

[Sunner]

I don't get it.
Don't know if someone explained it between the flaming, but what was that?
Looked like a christian(and somewhat creepy) music video to me...did I miss anything?

 

[Darwin333]

Originally posted by: rise

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
I think this is worth repeating

Originally posted by: Maleficus
It's good to see the tolerant left out in force.

Learn difference between tolerance and pandering. Sorry, but some of us don't feel the need to pander to the erroneous beliefs of others. But keep playing that victim card, it seems to be working for you.

seems you have no idea of what tolerance is, otherwise you would have passed on this thread. but it's good to see tolerant people, such as yourself, declaring other's beliefs "erroneous".

dark days indeed.

Oh the irony.

After thousands of years of religions being violently intolerant of people not of their religion, from forcing people to convert at the tip of a sword to burning so call heretics and witches, the religious folks are now calling people who verbally oppose religion with logic and ration "intolerant".

And you have the nerve to say these are the "dark days".

Get back to me when atheists start burning people at the stake, hindering science, or threatening people with death if the don't give up their religious beliefs.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Darwin333

Oh the irony.

After thousands of years of religions being violently intolerant of people not of their religion, from forcing people to convert at the tip of a sword to burning so call heretics and witches, the religious folks are now calling people who verbally oppose religion with logic and ration "intolerant".

And you have the nerve to say these are the "dark days".

Get back to me when atheists start burning people at the stake, hindering science, or threatening people with death if the don't give up their religious beliefs.

And that post pretty much sums up the arguement.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Darwin333

Oh the irony.

After thousands of years of religions being violently intolerant of people not of their religion, from forcing people to convert at the tip of a sword to burning so call heretics and witches, the religious folks are now calling people who verbally oppose religion with logic and ration "intolerant".

And you have the nerve to say these are the "dark days".

Get back to me when atheists start burning people at the stake, hindering science, or threatening people with death if the don't give up their religious beliefs.

And that post pretty much sums up the arguement.

you're both witches!!1!

 

[Zolty]

Does anyone know where I can buy bulk god on the internets

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: GuideBot
god... tube? GODtube? :Q

hahahah.. exactly what I was thinking. hahaha

 

[Ruptga]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: Rogodin2
Nietzsche destroyed god in 1886 without much trouble.

Rogo

Yeah, except he was wrong. God isn't dead. God is irrelevant.

That's exactly what Nietzsche was saying

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Zolty
Does anyone know where I can buy bulk god on the internets

/me has an alternator sized godtube...

 

[Ruptga]

Ok, for reference, this is being tolerant/respectful while not necessarily agreeing at all

Originally posted by: ZzZGuy
Hey, if it makes you a better person I'm all for it, as long as you don't try and cram it down my throat. If it makes you a worse person I will go out of my way to bring you down. I don't see anything wrong with this, not my cup of tea so it's not on my bookmark list. As for religious rhetoric (good or bad), you'll only listen if you already believe, a video clip isn't going to make people do a 180.

And this is being a troll that contributes nothing

Originally posted by: Darwin333

Originally posted by: MillionaireNextDoor
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Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Doctors are the reason she is still alive,

In the Bible, God is known to work through people. How can you be certain that God didn't send or work through the doctors?

I can't be certain that a blue-green leprechaun riding a pink unicorn with purple polka dots and a lime green three legged dog named lucky aren't trotting around through outer space but I can reasonably say they aren't up there.

You don't have to like us, just be civil. The vast majority of the human population beleives in a god of some kind, there is a reason for this. How about you try to learn why and show them the error of their ways instetad of just agitating people.

 

[NanoStuff]

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
The vast majority of the human population beleives in a god of some kind, there is a reason for this.

The vast majority of the human population is also stupid, coincidence?

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
How about you try to learn why and show them the error of their ways.

People have been doing that since the beginning of your blind faith. Few listen, and those that do don't understand. You can't teach a dog to speak.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: MillionaireNextDoor

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
if god loved my gf he wouldn't have given her polymyositis, fibromyalgia, arthritis, and a host of other diseases before the age of 9.


bastard.

Why is it that whenever anything bad happens, we automatically blame God? Have you considered the possibility that God had nothing to do with causing your gf's sickness? On the other hand, have you ever considered the possibility that the only reason why your gf is even still alive, despite all those dreadful diseases, is because of God? I can't say one way or another but those are questions to ponder over before passing any sort of premature judgment.

You can pick 1 of two possible arguments:

1: there is a god
In which case he's a douchebag for giving my GF the shaft. I'm supposed to thank him for saving her AFTER f'n her over? That's like me shooting you in the face and then saving your life, and YOU calling ME a hero

2. there is no god
My gf is horrendously unlucky for being the first person in the west coast/US diagnosed with polymyositis before the age of 9. She is even more unlucky for having the other ailments tacked on. Statistics is not her friend.

 

[tealk]

God uses the broken, as I see everyday!

 

[Darwin333]

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
Ok, for reference, this is being tolerant/respectful while not necessarily agreeing at all

Originally posted by: ZzZGuy
Hey, if it makes you a better person I'm all for it, as long as you don't try and cram it down my throat. If it makes you a worse person I will go out of my way to bring you down. I don't see anything wrong with this, not my cup of tea so it's not on my bookmark list. As for religious rhetoric (good or bad), you'll only listen if you already believe, a video clip isn't going to make people do a 180.

And this is being a troll that contributes nothing

Originally posted by: Darwin333

Originally posted by: MillionaireNextDoor
[

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Doctors are the reason she is still alive,

In the Bible, God is known to work through people. How can you be certain that God didn't send or work through the doctors?

I can't be certain that a blue-green leprechaun riding a pink unicorn with purple polka dots and a lime green three legged dog named lucky aren't trotting around through outer space but I can reasonably say they aren't up there.

You don't have to like us, just be civil. The vast majority of the human population beleives in a god of some kind, there is a reason for this. How about you try to learn why and show them the error of their ways instetad of just agitating people.

I made a valid analogy in response to "How can we be certain God isn't responsible for...."

I am quite civil with religious folk. A hellofa lot more civil than they have been to us historically. Sometimes I do get a bit colorful but I do believe that all of my points are valid. If you have faith no amount of logic, ration, or historical fact will change your mind.

As to your latter sentence religion started out to be a good way to control people and answer questions that where unanswerable. As science answered some of those question religion evolved to answer new questions that are currently unanswerable but in the end its a good way to control a large population.

Why do so many people believe in a god? Quite simply, because they where taught to by their parents. Its no coincidence that 90%+ people believe in the same religion as their parents. Can you really call it "faith" when children are basically programed to have "faith" before they even understand what it is?

Before you say that I am uncivil towards those of faith, I'll let you in on a secret. I pay a nice chunk of change to send my daughter to catholic school. Yes, I am a hypocrite for it but I could not in good conscience send my daughter to the local public schools and there are no private nonreligious schools in my area. Neither my wife or I reinforce the religious education she receives so so far its just another subject to her.

Another point I would like to make is I do not teach my daughter not to believe in God. First of all, she is to young to understand the concept (which is why I believe the church tries to get their teeth into them so early). When she is old enough I will teach her to view her options and to make up her own mind. I see no need to force my beliefs on her as most religious families do their children.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: Darwin333

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
Ok, for reference, this is being tolerant/respectful while not necessarily agreeing at all

Originally posted by: ZzZGuy
Hey, if it makes you a better person I'm all for it, as long as you don't try and cram it down my throat. If it makes you a worse person I will go out of my way to bring you down. I don't see anything wrong with this, not my cup of tea so it's not on my bookmark list. As for religious rhetoric (good or bad), you'll only listen if you already believe, a video clip isn't going to make people do a 180.

And this is being a troll that contributes nothing

Originally posted by: Darwin333

Originally posted by: MillionaireNextDoor
[

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Doctors are the reason she is still alive,

In the Bible, God is known to work through people. How can you be certain that God didn't send or work through the doctors?

I can't be certain that a blue-green leprechaun riding a pink unicorn with purple polka dots and a lime green three legged dog named lucky aren't trotting around through outer space but I can reasonably say they aren't up there.

You don't have to like us, just be civil. The vast majority of the human population beleives in a god of some kind, there is a reason for this. How about you try to learn why and show them the error of their ways instetad of just agitating people.

I made a valid analogy in response to "How can we be certain God isn't responsible for...."

I am quite civil with religious folk. A hellofa lot more civil than they have been to us historically. Sometimes I do get a bit colorful but I do believe that all of my points are valid. If you have faith no amount of logic, ration, or historical fact will change your mind.

As to your latter sentence religion started out to be a good way to control people and answer questions that where unanswerable. As science answered some of those question religion evolved to answer new questions that are currently unanswerable but in the end its a good way to control a large population.

Why do so many people believe in a god? Quite simply, because they where taught to by their parents. Its no coincidence that 90%+ people believe in the same religion as their parents. Can you really call it "faith" when children are basically programed to have "faith" before they even understand what it is?

Before you say that I am uncivil towards those of faith, I'll let you in on a secret. I pay a nice chunk of change to send my daughter to catholic school. Yes, I am a hypocrite for it but I could not in good conscience send my daughter to the local public schools and there are no private nonreligious schools in my area. Neither my wife or I reinforce the religious education she receives so so far its just another subject to her.

Another point I would like to make is I do not teach my daughter not to believe in God. First of all, she is to young to understand the concept (which is why I believe the church tries to get their teeth into them so early). When she is old enough I will teach her to view her options and to make up her own mind. I see no need to force my beliefs on her as most religious families do their children.

Well said.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: tealk
or 3: God uses the broken, as I see everyday!

That doesn't really help your argument, you know
What you just said is wide open to interpretation, such as:
"God broke her so he could make her dance like a puppet as an illustration to others"

 

[tealk]

Blind leading the blind. I pray for you.

 

[nakedfrog]

Am I the only one that finds apologists amusing?

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: tealk
or 3: God uses the broken, as I see everyday!

Care to rephrase that? Sounds like you're saying God likes to take advantage of people.

 

[Ruptga]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: Darwin333

I made a valid analogy in response to "How can we be certain God isn't responsible for...."

I am quite civil with religious folk. A hellofa lot more civil than they have been to us historically. Sometimes I do get a bit colorful but I do believe that all of my points are valid. If you have faith no amount of logic, ration, or historical fact will change your mind.

As to your latter sentence religion started out to be a good way to control people and answer questions that where unanswerable. As science answered some of those question religion evolved to answer new questions that are currently unanswerable but in the end its a good way to control a large population.

Why do so many people believe in a god? Quite simply, because they where taught to by their parents. Its no coincidence that 90%+ people believe in the same religion as their parents. Can you really call it "faith" when children are basically programed to have "faith" before they even understand what it is?

Before you say that I am uncivil towards those of faith, I'll let you in on a secret. I pay a nice chunk of change to send my daughter to catholic school. Yes, I am a hypocrite for it but I could not in good conscience send my daughter to the local public schools and there are no private nonreligious schools in my area. Neither my wife or I reinforce the religious education she receives so so far its just another subject to her.

Another point I would like to make is I do not teach my daughter not to believe in God. First of all, she is to young to understand the concept (which is why I believe the church tries to get their teeth into them so early). When she is old enough I will teach her to view her options and to make up her own mind. I see no need to force my beliefs on her as most religious families do their children.

Well said.

Comparing something that billions have believed in over thousands of years to a childhood hallucination is less than well said, more like flamebait, but that last post was well said.

 

[Ruptga]

Originally posted by: tealk
Blind leading the blind. I pray for you.

ok, now even I've got to tell you to back it down a notch. Simple little statements like this don't accomplish anything other than to add fuel to the fire. You are not going to convince anyone if this is your idea of debate or evangelism.

A much better response would be:

3. God is interested in us, but not to the point of being heavy-handed and running the whole show. He also often works in our lives in spite of our problems, whether they're the result of accident/random chance or our own doing.