How much GOD loves Us!

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: n7
Wow.

Beauitful song i gotta get.

It would be nice to see people have respect for others out there though.

Tolerance doesn't exist on these forums...one thing i've noticed

Where's your tolerance for criticism? No idea is so sacred that it's above criticism.

There is some criticism but mostly insults. There is a distinct difference.

People are just overly sensitive when it comes to religion. So quick to play the victim card.

I'll be the first to say that religion isn't all that invasive in every day life. It permeates it. But it's an almost unavoidable part of humanity. It's been with us, as a species, from almost the beginning.

But, the least I expect from religious people is to admit that their religion is in no way in danger, especially not from anyone on this forum. You're the majority. You have been and you will be for a long, long time. You can stop pretending you're "under siege" now.

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians, they are so unlike your Christ. - Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Christianity (paraphrased)

There is so much irony in that. Because he was not a Christian yet in many ways he walked the way Christ said we should walk unlike so many who call themselves Christians. Mahatma Gandhi is a rare example however.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
if god loved my gf he wouldn't have given her polymyositis, fibromyalgia, arthritis, and a host of other diseases before the age of 9.


bastard.

proof that god gave her those diseases???
It`s way too asy to blame everything on God...

 

[Tweak155]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: tealk
FAITH

True. I have faith that the church is corrupt, greedy and evil. I have faith that God is useless and that his track record is for nothing but violence towards children. I have faith that God can't do anything for anyone. I have faith that the bible is badly written collection of fairy tales that contradicts itself on every other page. I have faith that anyone who so blindly follows those fairy tales in the face of overwhelming evidence that they're pure crap is braindead. I have faith in what science can prove rather than in what some pedophile claims might happen someday. I have faith that the bible can't tell me how the world is going to end when it failed so miserably to describe how it began. I have faith that at this very moment a priest is molesting yet another kid. I have faith that his superiors will attempt to cover it up. I have faith that your impotent little god will do nothing to help that kid. I have faith that the church will hide behind bankruptcy laws when that kid comes back to collect damages.

Much of what you say is true. If you read the new testament you will know that the group Christ rebuked more than any other were the leaders of the church, the Pharisees. The philosopher will tell you that the bible is just another series of mind controls to dominate the masses. The truth is that Christ appealed to the low in spirit because they are humbled and teachable. If one is puffed(leavened) up they are not teachable.
Much of the church is Evil. The new testament speaks often of the apostate church. The disciples asked Christ when the end would come and his response was as follows;

4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

8All these are the beginning of sorrows.

9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

Mat 7:15

15"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

So you see...your view that the church is corrupt was nothing new to Christ either.

Not to mention the other prophecy in the bible that has come true.

I'd like Gag to name one prophecy that hasn't come true, as well as a contradiction not taken out of context.

 

[NanoStuff]

I wish we had a time machine if only for the purpose to go back for those douche bags that wrote the bible and lock them up for criminal deceit of the highest degree. Misleading stupid people should be a punishment. Not that I care for the well being of the gullible, but their idiocy radiates.

 

[SSSnail]

That's some emo shits, I actually watched the whole vid (actually, I lied, only 2/3) and I had to shut it down.

Interpretive dancing, I think we did something like that in grade school, until we found girls.

Quick question, which came first Youtube or Godtube? Or rather, which was created first?

So now the question of "If God has a tube..." has been answered, I think I'm done with this thread.

 

[Tweak155]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
I wish we had a time machine if only for the purpose to go back for those douche bags that wrote the bible and lock them up for criminal deceit of the highest degree. Misleading stupid people should be a punishment. Not that I care for the well being of the gullible, but their idiocy radiates.

Prove that it is deceit.

 

[Ruptga]

B+ for effort, C- for spamminess, A for the guts to post this in a place like OT

 

[JulesMaximus]

Does he love us enough to shut you the hell up?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Xavier434
Where there is a Yin, there is a Yang.


NSFW

http://www.youporn.com


God bless them every one :laugh:

:thumbsup: If this thread has done nothing else at least it has given me a source for free porn. :laugh:

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: tealk
FAITH

True. I have faith that the church is corrupt, greedy and evil. I have faith that God is useless and that his track record is for nothing but violence towards children. I have faith that God can't do anything for anyone. I have faith that the bible is badly written collection of fairy tales that contradicts itself on every other page. I have faith that anyone who so blindly follows those fairy tales in the face of overwhelming evidence that they're pure crap is braindead. I have faith in what science can prove rather than in what some pedophile claims might happen someday. I have faith that the bible can't tell me how the world is going to end when it failed so miserably to describe how it began. I have faith that at this very moment a priest is molesting yet another kid. I have faith that his superiors will attempt to cover it up. I have faith that your impotent little god will do nothing to help that kid. I have faith that the church will hide behind bankruptcy laws when that kid comes back to collect damages.

Much of what you say is true. If you read the new testament you will know that the group Christ rebuked more than any other were the leaders of the church, the Pharisees. The philosopher will tell you that the bible is just another series of mind controls to dominate the masses. The truth is that Christ appealed to the low in spirit because they are humbled and teachable. If one is puffed(leavened) up they are not teachable.
Much of the church is Evil. The new testament speaks often of the apostate church. The disciples asked Christ when the end would come and his response was as follows;

4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

8All these are the beginning of sorrows.

9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

Mat 7:15

15"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

So you see...your view that the church is corrupt was nothing new to Christ either.

Then the big questions remain: Where is this impotent little godling and what the hell is he doing about it? It seems to me that a supposedly supreme being with supposedly unlimited knowledge and supposedly unlimited power might invest ONE SECOND to take care of those who are waging war, committing crimes and molesting children in his name. No matter how you spin the "Jesus hated the church too" angle, your pathetic book of fairy tales descibes your great cosmic muffin as a benevolent being who is watching over and protecting his flock. How exactly are you dealing with the profound and undeniable facts that HE ISN'T?

 

[Ruptga]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Then the big questions remain: Where is this impotent little godling and what the hell is he doing about it? It seems to me that a supposedly supreme being with supposedly unlimited knowledge and supposedly unlimited power might invest ONE SECOND to take care of those who are waging war, committing crimes and molesting children in his name. No matter how you spin the "Jesus hated the church too" angle, your pathetic book of fairy tales descibes your great cosmic muffin as a benevolent being who is watching over and protecting his flock. How exactly are you dealing with the profound and undeniable facts that HE ISN'T?

If God kept the consequences of our stupidity from ever taking effect, we wouldn't really be free to make our own decisions, would we?

 

[NanoStuff]

Originally posted by: Tweak155

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
I wish we had a time machine if only for the purpose to go back for those douche bags that wrote the bible and lock them up for criminal deceit of the highest degree. Misleading stupid people should be a punishment. Not that I care for the well being of the gullible, but their idiocy radiates.

Prove that it is deceit.

Good point. Surely the only explanation here is some really macho ether-man with the power to spawn universes, create countless beings on a countless number of planets and do lots of really cool shit decided to one day write a stupid fucking book for a few fucking stupid and insignificant humans and then never be seen again.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Then the big questions remain: Where is this impotent little godling and what the hell is he doing about it? It seems to me that a supposedly supreme being with supposedly unlimited knowledge and supposedly unlimited power might invest ONE SECOND to take care of those who are waging war, committing crimes and molesting children in his name. No matter how you spin the "Jesus hated the church too" angle, your pathetic book of fairy tales descibes your great cosmic muffin as a benevolent being who is watching over and protecting his flock. How exactly are you dealing with the profound and undeniable facts that HE ISN'T?

If God kept the consequences of our stupidity from ever taking effect, we wouldn't really be free to make our own decisions, would we?

Yet another clueless attempt at avoiding the question.

How are kids molested by priests facing the consequences of their own stupidity? Man's inhumanity towards man is a wonderful example of mans freewill. Your useless little cosmic muffin is supposed to protect you from that. What the hell are you going to church and praying to him for if he can't protect children from his own handpicked representatives? THAT is the question you have to answer. Your book of fairy tales CLEARLY AND UNDENIABLY states over and over that your god watches over his flock and will protect them. HE DOESN'T. For 2000 years priests have been molesting hundreds of thousands, perhaps even millions of innocent children. Those children were not victims of their own free will and they were not victims of their own stupidity. They were victims of priests and GOD DID NOTHING.

 

[meltdown75]

methinks Gag was diddled by a preist.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: meltdown75
methinks Gag was diddled by a preist.

Nope, but it's good to see that you would not mind if you had been. Or is that where your faith would end? It's okay if hundreds of thousands of kids are molested as long as it's not you?

C'mon, fess up, lets hear the answer here. What is the acceptable amount of pedophilia for your impotent little god to allow and who must it be directed towards for it to be okay? Are you out of bounds? Your kids? How about nieces and nephews? Would you demand an accounting from God if you personally know the victims or is anyone a fair target?

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: meltdown75
methinks Gag was diddled by a preist.

Nope, but it's good to see that you would not mind if you had been.

:laugh:

That comment clearly exemplifies your maturity level.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: meltdown75
methinks Gag was diddled by a preist.

Nope, but it's good to see that you would not mind if you had been.

:laugh:

That comment clearly exemplifies your maturity level.

And clearly exemplifies your refusal to face the pertinent question. Why is 2000 years of continuing crimes and hundreds of thousands of victims okay just as long as it isn't you?

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: tealk
FAITH

True. I have faith that the church is corrupt, greedy and evil. I have faith that God is useless and that his track record is for nothing but violence towards children. I have faith that God can't do anything for anyone. I have faith that the bible is badly written collection of fairy tales that contradicts itself on every other page. I have faith that anyone who so blindly follows those fairy tales in the face of overwhelming evidence that they're pure crap is braindead. I have faith in what science can prove rather than in what some pedophile claims might happen someday. I have faith that the bible can't tell me how the world is going to end when it failed so miserably to describe how it began. I have faith that at this very moment a priest is molesting yet another kid. I have faith that his superiors will attempt to cover it up. I have faith that your impotent little god will do nothing to help that kid. I have faith that the church will hide behind bankruptcy laws when that kid comes back to collect damages.

Much of what you say is true. If you read the new testament you will know that the group Christ rebuked more than any other were the leaders of the church, the Pharisees. The philosopher will tell you that the bible is just another series of mind controls to dominate the masses. The truth is that Christ appealed to the low in spirit because they are humbled and teachable. If one is puffed(leavened) up they are not teachable.
Much of the church is Evil. The new testament speaks often of the apostate church. The disciples asked Christ when the end would come and his response was as follows;

4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

8All these are the beginning of sorrows.

9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

Mat 7:15

15"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

So you see...your view that the church is corrupt was nothing new to Christ either.

Then the big questions remain: Where is this impotent little godling and what the hell is he doing about it? It seems to me that a supposedly supreme being with supposedly unlimited knowledge and supposedly unlimited power might invest ONE SECOND to take care of those who are waging war, committing crimes and molesting children in his name. No matter how you spin the "Jesus hated the church too" angle, your pathetic book of fairy tales descibes your great cosmic muffin as a benevolent being who is watching over and protecting his flock. How exactly are you dealing with the profound and undeniable facts that HE ISN'T?

If God were to remove all the bad things in this world he would have to take away our will. Then we would be machines. Then consciousness would be moot. No God gave us a will so that we might choose life or death.
All the sufferings of this world are temporary. There are millions of people in the world who have suffered, been tortured, raped and oppressed and they do not feel the need to blame God. Suffering is temporary.
People might be murdered but God is the net for the soul. If you create a being with its own will rebellion is inevitable. Sin is inevitable and therefor suffering is inevitable. God knew this before he created us yet he has a plan to save those who will humbly seek him.

Matthew 7:7 "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.[/b]

Some will belittle God

Psalm 42:10 My bones suffer mortal agony
as my foes taunt me,
saying to me all day long,
"Where is your God?"[/b]

 

[Ruptga]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Then the big questions remain: Where is this impotent little godling and what the hell is he doing about it? It seems to me that a supposedly supreme being with supposedly unlimited knowledge and supposedly unlimited power might invest ONE SECOND to take care of those who are waging war, committing crimes and molesting children in his name. No matter how you spin the "Jesus hated the church too" angle, your pathetic book of fairy tales descibes your great cosmic muffin as a benevolent being who is watching over and protecting his flock. How exactly are you dealing with the profound and undeniable facts that HE ISN'T?

If God kept the consequences of our stupidity from ever taking effect, we wouldn't really be free to make our own decisions, would we?

Yet another clueless attempt at avoiding the question.

How are kids molested by priests facing the consequences of their own stupidity? Man's inhumanity towards man is a wonderful example of mans freewill. Your useless little cosmic muffin is supposed to protect you from that. What the hell are you going to church and praying to him for if he can't protect children from his own handpicked representatives? THAT is the question you have to answer. Your book of fairy tales CLEARLY AND UNDENIABLY states over and over that your god watches over his flock and will protect them. HE DOESN'T. For 2000 years priests have been molesting hundreds of thousands, perhaps even millions of innocent children. Those children were not victims of their own free will and they were not victims of their own stupidity. They were victims of priests and GOD DID NOTHING.

Meh, I don't feed trolls, have a nice day

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: meltdown75
methinks Gag was diddled by a preist.

Nope, but it's good to see that you would not mind if you had been.

:laugh:

That comment clearly exemplifies your maturity level.

And clearly exemplifies your refusal to face the pertinent question. Why is 2000 years of continuing crimes and hundreds of thousands of victims okay just as long as it isn't you?

And who is saying it is "okay", other than you, in your persistent attempts to continue trolling? Clearly you have evolved beyond the scope of these fairy tales. Why do you continue to make it your e-crusade to bandy about with us inferior believers?

 

[Wuffsunie]

Originally posted by: Flyback

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
if god loved my gf he wouldn't have given her polymyositis, fibromyalgia, arthritis, and a host of other diseases before the age of 9.


bastard.

God works in mysterious ways :roll:

God is a mean little kid with a chemistry set.

 

[Turin39789]

BRING BACK PNR!

 

[tealk]

If God were to remove all the bad things in this world he would have to take away our will. Then we would be machines. Then consciousness would be moot. No God gave us a will so that we might choose life or death.
All the sufferings of this world are temporary. There are millions of people in the world who have suffered, been tortured, raped and oppressed and they do not feel the need to blame God. Suffering is temporary.
People might be murdered but God is the net for the soul. If you create a being with its own will rebellion is inevitable. Sin is inevitable and therefor suffering is inevitable. God knew this before he created us yet he has a plan to save those who will humbly seek him.

Matthew 7:7 "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.[/b]

Some will belittle God

Psalm 42:10 My bones suffer mortal agony
as my foes taunt me,
saying to me all day long,
"Where is your God?"[/b]
[/quote]

AMEN!

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: tealk

If God were to remove all the bad things in this world he would have to take away our will. Then we would be machines. Then consciousness would be moot. No God gave us a will so that we might choose life or death.

Quite simply, this is a non-sequitur -- ignoring for the moment the incongruency of free will existing in a world where some being infallibly foreknows the future.

There already exists a literally infinite set of actions that humans cannot do. We cannot see infrared. We cannot hear 50KHz frequencies. We cannot digest diamonds. We cannot travel faster than light. The list goes on.

It does not follow from these facts that we lack the free will to choose among the possible actions available to us, nor does it follow that we would be deprived our free will were the actions declared to be "sins" members of the set of actions impossible for us to accomplish.

All the sufferings of this world are temporary. There are millions of people in the world who have suffered, been tortured, raped and oppressed and they do not feel the need to blame God. Suffering is temporary.

Tell that to the souls your God has allegedly cast into the his lake of fire.

People might be murdered but God is the net for the soul. If you create a being with its own will rebellion is inevitable. Sin is inevitable and therefor suffering is inevitable. God knew this before he created us yet he has a plan to save those who will humbly seek him.

HA! That's hilarious. If God knows already that he will not save certain people, then he created them for the sole purpose of subjecting them to eternal torment. What kind of a sick, sadistic sonuvabitch would do such a thing?