How much is your tax refund?

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KK

Lifer
Jan 2, 2001
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paying about 2200. Was hoping to have another dependant this year, but that fell thru, I never received a SS number for my dog.
 

trmiv

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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My federal refund is $2. I'm not kidding, $2.

Haven't done state yet, I'm sure I'll have to pay.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Moderator<br>A/V & Home Theater<br>Elite member
Aug 6, 2001
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Made about $6000 during the summer, getting $900 back

I'm going to save my refund this year though... last year I spent it on speakers/receiver hehe
 

mchammer187

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Originally posted by: smc13
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: smc13
You do realize that getting a refund isn't a good thing, right? Essentially, you gave an interest free loan to the government. If you owe the government more then $1000 they might fine you to make up for their lost interest. We should be able to do the same when the government owes us lots of money. After all, it is our money.

People need to learn more about economics. It is better to have less taken out from each paycheck and get no refund then it is to have less throughout the year and get one big lump payment at tax time. Money now is better then money later.

To bad we can't just scrap the tax code and go to a system that says you made this much so you owe that.


i disagree. i personally would rather get more taken out each check and adapt to living with that income, then get this bonus check out of nowhere that can pay for my summer vacation to exotic locations.

if i were to get less taken out, i would just adapt to my higher income every check and probably end up not saving it (as basically i am forced to do and get it back in the form of a tax refund).

So what you are saying is that you would rather the government take more of your money each paycheck because you don't manage your money well. You do realize that if you took a portion of your paycheck each week and simply put it into a savings account, you would have more money in your account at tax time then you get from your refund. Or you could have money automatically taken out and put into a 401K to save for retirement.

Personally, I like having more money during the year.

just think of it this way

would you rather say you won 10000 and say 6 months later they make a mistake and say you have to give 5K back

or

say you won 2000 now and say 6 months along the line they made a mistake you really won 5K so they give you another 3K


the marginal interest on that 1K isnt really going to amount to anything in the long run and some people already max their 401K and Roth IRA contributions (I do anyway)

so that extra interest would only amount to an extra 30-50 dollars a year assuming you put it in a interest savings account

some people like to buy themself a nice little gift with their tax return so in this situation it is a 1K gift vs a $1050 gift (which is really marginal)

sure this 50 dollars a year may amount to thousands in the long run when invested but when some are putting down 10K a year into their retirement another $50 is really a drop in the bucket
 

urname7698

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Feb 2, 2004
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I have to agree with mchammer187. I like to overpay and get a return as its an easy way to save up a large amount of cash. Very hard to touch it during the year.. and the interest is so small (even 2.96%) when you amortorize it over the time you are paid the money, etc.. I max out my 401k, can't contribute to an IRA and have no debt other than mortgages.. so its nice to get a big chunk to add to my savings or throw around the idea of spending..
 

CTrain

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Sep 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: smc13
You do realize that getting a refund isn't a good thing, right? Essentially, you gave an interest free loan to the government. If you owe the government more then $1000 they might fine you to make up for their lost interest. We should be able to do the same when the government owes us lots of money. After all, it is our money.

People need to learn more about economics. It is better to have less taken out from each paycheck and get no refund then it is to have less throughout the year and get one big lump payment at tax time. Money now is better then money later.

To bad we can't just scrap the tax code and go to a system that says you made this much so you owe that.

Before I click on this thread I knew some tax refund nazi was gonna come in here and talk about how the government is keeping your money interest free, blah, blah...

Most people already know this and couldn't really give a crap about it.
Like many have said, they don't miss the extra $25 that are taken away every paycheck.

As far as interest goes, its so minimal.
Unless, you're getting like >$10K, the interest is very small.
Most people are getting ~$1K, if you were to put that in ING, you're looking at about $30 of interest but since you don't actually put the entire $1K from the beginning, you're getting about $20.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: CTrain

Before I click on this thread I knew some tax refund nazi was gonna come in here and talk about how the government is keeping your money interest free, blah, blah...

Most people already know this and couldn't really give a crap about it.
Like many have said, they don't miss the extra $25 that are taken away every paycheck.

As far as interest goes, its so minimal.
Unless, you're getting like >$10K, the interest is very small.
Most people are getting ~$1K, if you were to put that in ING, you're looking at about $30 of interest but since you don't actually put the entire $1K from the beginning, you're getting about $20.

You obviously don't have much experience in this. It has nothing to do with savings and ING whatever. That money can be applied to mortgages, loans, etc which gives you a much greater yield than simple savings.

Yet alone if one has any kind of revolving credit cards....

 

CTrain

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Sep 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: CTrain

Before I click on this thread I knew some tax refund nazi was gonna come in here and talk about how the government is keeping your money interest free, blah, blah...

Most people already know this and couldn't really give a crap about it.
Like many have said, they don't miss the extra $25 that are taken away every paycheck.

As far as interest goes, its so minimal.
Unless, you're getting like >$10K, the interest is very small.
Most people are getting ~$1K, if you were to put that in ING, you're looking at about $30 of interest but since you don't actually put the entire $1K from the beginning, you're getting about $20.

You obviously don't have much experience in this. It has nothing to do with savings and ING whatever. That money can be applied to mortgages, loans, etc which gives you a much greater yield than simple savings.

Yet alone if one has any kind of revolving credit cards....

Good lord, another tax refund nazi.

First of all, you know nothing agout the financial situation of these people.
Do know know for a fact that these people are needy of that extra $500-$1000 during the year ??

From the replies, most people are getting $600-800 back, which equate to about $16 per week.
Yeah, I can see it now, that extra $60 per month was going to get much greater yield when applied to loans, mortgage, etc...

You know, if I ever start getting >$5K refund every year, maybe I'll look into not deferring so much from my paycheck but as of now, the government can invest the extra $20 every week as they please.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: CTrain

Good lord, another tax refund nazi.

First of all, you know nothing agout the financial situation of these people.
Do know know for a fact that these people are needy of that extra $500-$1000 during the year ??

From the replies, most people are getting $600-800 back, which equate to about $16 per week.
Yeah, I can see it now, that extra $60 per month was going to get much greater yield when applied to loans, mortgage, etc...

You know, if I ever start getting >$5K refund every year, maybe I'll look into not deferring so much from my paycheck but as of now, the government can invest the extra $20 every week as they please.

Let's see call names, nazi even...makes you right...nice and big feeling I guess

Read you own writings and think if that mattered why are you giving advice then...what if they are getting $1000's back....regardless it makes no difference, but you are too clueless to understand. There is a reason people go to tax pros...your advice has a lot to do with it.

You are never deferring any money from a paycheck if you are doing your taxes right...you either get back a false savings at the end of the year, owe money, or break even.

that little $20 a week compounds to a hell of a lot over a lifetime you realize.

you do realize right?

right?
 

CTrain

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Sep 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: CTrain

Good lord, another tax refund nazi.

First of all, you know nothing agout the financial situation of these people.
Do know know for a fact that these people are needy of that extra $500-$1000 during the year ??

From the replies, most people are getting $600-800 back, which equate to about $16 per week.
Yeah, I can see it now, that extra $60 per month was going to get much greater yield when applied to loans, mortgage, etc...

You know, if I ever start getting >$5K refund every year, maybe I'll look into not deferring so much from my paycheck but as of now, the government can invest the extra $20 every week as they please.

Let's see call names, nazi even...makes you right...nice and big feeling I guess

Read you own writings and think if that mattered why are you giving advice then...what if they are getting $1000's back....regardless it makes no difference, but you are too clueless to understand. There is a reason people go to tax pros...your advice has a lot to do with it.

You are never deferring any money from a paycheck if you are doing your taxes right...you either get back a false savings at the end of the year, owe money, or break even.

that little $20 a week compounds to a hell of a lot over a lifetime you realize.

you do realize right?

right?

Whos giving advice ?? I never said getting a refund was better.
Re-read what I've been saying.
Most people already know this and couldn't really give a crap about it.

You can easily say, well if people just stop eating once 1 less time per week, they would save alot of money....well, people know this too and they don't give a crap.

With my situation:
No loans, no mortage. 0 debt.
Mutual funds acc >$20K
401K ~$10K
Whole life insurance >$20K

Do you think I really care about what the government is going to do with my interest on the $20 per week ???

 

CTrain

Diamond Member
Sep 26, 2001
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Seriously, the interest amount to so little.

$1000 compounded daily at 3% is only $30.45 of interest.
But since you don't actually have that $1000 at the beginning of the year, your interest is probably $20.

If I really want the $20 that bad, I'd refrain from eating out 1 time for the whole year.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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you are totally missing the point.

Who is talking about 1year...how about over the course of taxpaying life.

if you can put even $10 a week away at simple savings interest starting at 18 or so, it's going to be a f(kload of money at retirement.

It's easy to say I'd just skip a meal out or not see that movie, buy that CD, etc, but you run out of options not to spend on and how to save.
 
Aug 26, 2004
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i got about 400 bux

paid in 2grand...being single and having no kids sucks...at least at tax time...the rest of the time i'm quite content with it
 
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