For sure. It is also unclear how patient you might have needed to be - like the Series X and PS5, it seems to me that there are going to be a lot opportunists buying for the immediate flip.
If you don't want to play that game you might be waiting until sometime in Q1 2021. Another reason to hope that AMD is competitive on the GPU front, as that will create more stock of cards worthy to buy and put nvidia to work getting as many cards in channel at MSRP as possible.
Being that I keep up on tech stuff, I cringed at paying $600 for a 2080 Super last month, but my son wanted to build his first gaming PC and my 1080 ti was a good fit for what he was building. Being patient would've worked out better for both of us, but I suppose I get dad points for helping the boy out, and it's not like the 2080 Super is a performance slouch.
That's a good point I had also considered. I do work pretty close to a Microcenter, so I have that advantage with finding a card at or near launch. However, I really want to get a 3rd party card with better cooling and standard PCIe power plugs anyway if I'm going to get one, so that pulled the timeline out even further. Another unknown is I'm pretty satisfied with the 2080 Super and may pick up another older card if there's a fire sale on older cards. I'd like to have one more card to replace a 1660 ti in yet another son's PC, and gaming at 1080p isn't stressful enough to really warrant a 1080 ti or 2080 Super, which would be the potential hand me downs.
Edit: Having a 1660 ti as your worst gaming card in 4 PCs is really a 1st world problem. Right now we have a 1660 ti, GTX 1080, GTX 1080 ti, and RTX 2080 Super...guess this winter we won't have to run the heat much.
Wow, you also have a much more 'relaxed' wife than I do. Mine would be adding up all those cards and reminding me of the extra vacation we could have taken
If she is more like my spouse, she just mindfully doesn't pay attention to my hobbies and how much they cost. I know not to be stupid, she knows we have nice stuff. Winning?
Just rumor and innuendo, we will probably never know the exact truth as yields are closely guarded fab secrets. But NV themselves said the process was yielding better, resulting in the lower expected card cost despite higher wafer costs.
We will have to see what availability is like to determine any real ground truth.
All told computer hardware is a pretty cheap hobby. Start comparing it to restoring cars or buying skiing boats, and all of a sudden the cost of a Titan isn’t so bad.
Well, there is a big difference between "demonstrably better" and "just rumor and innuendo"
In one post you wrote "demonstrably better, lower leakage, etc" and when asked to back it up, you just wrote "just rumor"
Just rumor DOES NOT equate demonstrably better.
Getting back on-topic, has anyone seen Newegg's prices on some cards? Looking through the "daily deals" (their huge list), I've seen... RX 5700XT Thicc III for $690, and RTX 2080ti for $1999! WTH?
Looking for suckers, drawn in by the new-GPU hype? (or totally unaware of it?)
Or is it mining again? (Nearly all of their RX 5700/5700XT cards are SOLD OUT.) (RX 5700 and RX 5700XT both do 50-53MH/sec on ETH. They are some of the best cards for mining, besides the Radeon VII, and less so, the 2080ti.)
I really think that this is a resurgence of "mining prices" rearing it's ugly head again. I hope I'm wrong!
On Newegg.ca the Sapphire Pulse 5700XT is still in stock. It's been hovering around the $540 CDN mark, but just INCREASED in price again today to $549, plus $20 shipping (was free or up to $7.99). I don't get it either and I hope you are wrong about mining. I wish someone would just make a mining-only card that was cheaper which would solve the issue once and for all.
Well, they're finally moving to PoS system, however, according to their current plans it's still going to take them 2 years before the move is complete. So 2 more years of GPU prices propped up by miners.Plenty of miners exist.
Realtime mining hardware profitability | ASIC Miner Value
Live income estimation of all known ASIC miners, updated every minute.www.asicminervalue.com
Any successful crypto is going to reach a point where the difficulty is too high to run general purpose HW.
Looks like Eth will be moving to a less GPU friendly algo/difficulty soon too. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Can't happen fast enough for me.
Yay! ( /s ).So 2 more years of GPU prices propped up by miners.
I'm sure they are, they don't care who they sell to. It's a double edged sword though. Sure, for now the miners help to keep the price high, but at the same time high prices suppress interest from gamers who see less and less value in PC gaming as opposed to console gaming. I'm curious about the actual number of PC gamers, is it still growing, or shrinking because of high prices?Yay! ( /s ).
AMD and NV must be thrilled, though, in secret.
TBH those numbers are not that great. 100Mh/s on a heavily overclocked card that consumes at least 350-400W may be great for compute density, but properly optimized 5700XT can hit 50MH/s at 125W which is more efficient. It remains to be seen how well Ampere can be optimized.The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 is an Ethereum mining monster: overclocked cards deliver nearly 100 MH/s, double the Radeon RX 5700 XT
Leaked cryptocurrency mining benchmarks suggest that the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 is set to deliver record-breaking cryptocurrency performance among commercial GPUs. The benchmarks indicate that overclocked RTX 3080s offer nearly twice the hashrate of the Radeon RX 5700 XT.www.notebookcheck.net
Lets see how far this crypto boom will take us.
We won't know until people get their hands on it.Does it actually reach that while mining? The article just says it's a 320W TDP, so it could probably hit 400W overclocked.
Plenty of miners exist.
That still doesn't explain why people are buying USED cards for the same price as new when the new ones are still available?
Lots of people are dumb. Fully half of the population is below median smarts.
Also, it's just what is available. MC is still full pricing on everything, you could pay $150 for an RX580 today, or nearly $400 for a 2060. Those are terrible decisions, but if you are buying today and not a few weeks from now, well, those are the choices. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
For the last few months all used parts have been priced highly. We were watching Bulldozer CPUs sell for well over $100 on ebay this summer. That's just bizarre.
Well, what, 39% of the US population will still vote for that infantile lunatic Trump? I guess that kind of explains it.