- You could say the same about the 2080Ti. It may have more RAM than the 3070, but its also a 2 year old release The entire RTX 2xxx line-up just got crushed into the sub-$500 bracket.
Where are you seeing 2080ti for $500CDN used? I'd jump on one at that price considering 3080 will probably be around $950CDN and the 3090 will be $1800 or so.
Once the dust settles and 3070 is out, I could see it going that low. Right now on ebay they are around $700-$800 with bids on them.
I fully expect RDNA cards to tank hard though. Lack of the RT acceleration found in the consoles is going to age them very quickly overnight.
I wonder if I should flip my 5700xt now? If I could get $300+ locally for it, that would put me in position for whatever we get in the $400-$500 range and I am drawing near to a year of use on it. $5 per month to have it seems reasonable. I could see it going to sub $200 fast, easily, in a few weeks - but if it's a few months I like having it now
Most people don't even know the 3000 series exist yet, in fact it won't be until they are in stores and etailers that people know about them, and that is when prices are going to fall significantly. Another price drop will happen when next gen consoles release in November and another one when AMD releases their next gen RX 6000 series GPU's.
So expect to see an initial price drop of used cards of about 15-25% with prices dropping as much as 50% in 2021 when we have good availability on RTX 3000, RX 6000 and next gen consoles.
I expect you to be able to find a RX 5700xt for $200 or RTX 2070s for $220 in 2021. If the RTX 2070 for $500 is as fast as the RTX 2080ti, then the upcoming RTX 3060 is likely going to be as fast as the RTX 2080s for likely $350 and a more realistic mid range card in the RTX 3050 being as fast as the RTX 2060s for just $250.
Now I'm thinking that I made a mistake(*), in getting my friend a GTX 1660 ti 6GB GDDR6 card to upgrade his GTX 1650 4GB GDDR5 card (the GTX 1650 came free with the PC I gave him, I was going to ask him to pay for the GTX 1660 ti, and that way, we/he could put the GTX 1650 into his prior PC, that has a GTX 1050 2GB GDDR5 with bad fans, supposedly).
I just ordered a 32" 1440P 144Hz monitor for him, it was (relative to other name brands) "cheap", hopefully it's decent. It's a Westinghouse, not the first name that you think of when you think "gaming monitor", but I had a Westinghouse LCD TV 32" for like 10 years, it was a champ. So I think that they're budget, but alright.
Anyways, getting an Ampere RTX 3060 or 3070 might be best longer-term for him, although the base platform should probably be upgraded in a year or two from an i5-6500 / 16GB DDR4, to something Zen2/Zen3-based, with at least 8 real cores, to prepare for PS5 ports.
I guess one solution, would be to have him pay me for the GTX 1660 ti in the near term, but then have a standing offer to buy it back off of him, longer-term, as long as it was still in working shape, for then-market-value, in order for him to upgrade to an Ampere card.
I think that would be pretty fair.
Otherwise, he's going to have to wait until Oct/Nov (rumored?) for RTX 3050 / 3060 to debut, in order to get full usage out of his shiny new monitor (when it arrives). I would like him to be able to really use it and try it out, and see how he likes Fortnite @ 1440P / 144Hz, etc. As well as possibly get RDR2 and try it in 1440P glory.
I'm already @ 4K UHD 60Hz, otherwise I would have kept that monitor for myself. I don't really have a "4K gaming card", I have an RX 5700 as primary. I mostly just mine on it though.
(*) In timing and pricing. So close to Ampere, and there were a couple of RTX 2080 cards in the FS forum for $450 and $400 recently. If I hadn't spent $100 on a GTX 1060 6GB, and $280 on a GTX 1660 ti (if I had planned ahead better), I could have affording a (used) RTX 2080 for my friend, which arguably would have been WAY better for 1440P / 144Hz gaming. Then again, if Ampere is so much better, it would have been foolish to buy a "loud, hot" RTX 2080, even for a great price. Kind of like buying an R9 290X when RX 570 is on the market.
I've seen 1080 and 2080/ti card going really cheap on the local forums lately, there are many wanting the new ones and are desperate to sell the old one asap. That's maybe not reflecting the right prices for these products, especially at the lower end like 2060 where no immediate pricepoint challenger is yet launced.
I only got back into gaming two years ago (kids and all that) and went with the 2080, cheap Gainward card at 600usd. If I now get 300usd for it I think it's fine, only 150usd per year for great gaming. My son has a 1070ti in his computer, I think with that kind of 2080 price I will rather put the card in his system and sell the 1070ti. My son has a nice 1440p 165Hz monitor, the 2080 will be signifanctly better for that.
I will be getting the 3080, at bit more than what I paid for the 2080 so I guess the drop in two years will be larger, but... life is.
ebay prices are around $600-700 on 2080ti. i cant imagine being one of those nv owners who have to constantly monitor the next gen leaks in order to time when to sell their top end cards to not lose too much money on the trade in.
I did "best offer" on a $650 card, and added the comment that in one month, $500 cards would beat it, and offered $400. It was turned down immediately. I guess I will have to wait.It amazes me.. Knowing by end of this month.. There is a new card that can potentially outperform the 2080Ti for $500 price range..
I did "best offer" on a $650 card, and added the comment that in one month, $500 cards would beat it, and offered $400. It was turned down immediately. I guess I will have to wait.
there's really no reason to accept your $400. that'll be available next month and the month after that. some sucker might actually buy it for $650.I did "best offer" on a $650 card, and added the comment that in one month, $500 cards would beat it, and offered $400. It was turned down immediately. I guess I will have to wait.
I know, just trying.... Just saying from some comments that they are not that bad now.there's really no reason to accept your $400. that'll be available next month and the month after that. some sucker might actually buy it for $650.
I know, just trying.... Just saying from some comments that they are not that bad now.
Of course I have 5 of them, and the cheapest was $1000, but that was 2 years ago.
Well, due to the heat, I am temperature constrained at the minute. Everybody in my family is under level 1,2 or level 3 evac orders, its windy and hot here. Half of the northwest is on fire.It will be interesting to see if Ampere desktop cards deliver much more compute per watt compared to Turing. I know that you are power restricted as much as anything else, so I'll be watching your sig for changes as results speak for themselves
Well, due to the heat, I am temperature constrained at the minute. Everybody in my family is under level 1,2 or level 3 evac orders, its windy and hot here. Half of the northwest is on fire.
I did "best offer" on a $650 card, and added the comment that in one month, $500 cards would beat it, and offered $400. It was turned down immediately. I guess I will have to wait.