How much to have wood foundation layed for a tiny house?

cheez

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I'm hoping to buy a tiny house (12x20) and lease a land (tiny house-approved by land owner). But I didn't think about the foundation. I looked at the wood foundation demo from lowes on youtube here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pji-YIOtm2w
How much would it cost to do that?
 
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mindless1

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Permanently attached house on leased land seems like a bad idea, as does wood for something more valuable than a shed. I'd consider concrete or cinder blocks, not permanently attached.

Then again if you have to move the house, wood posts would be easier to get rid of if the land owner is okay with just sawing them off a little below ground level, assuming you don't set then in concrete all the way up to ground level, but I'd get that in writing because otherwise, why would the land owner agree to it instead of insisting all traces be gone?
 
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cheez

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Permanently attached house on leased land seems like a bad idea, as does wood for something more valuable than a shed. I'd consider concrete or cinder blocks, not permanently attached.

Then again if you have to move the house, wood posts would be easier to get rid of if the land owner is okay with just sawing them off a little below ground level, assuming you don't set then in concrete all the way up to ground level, but I'd get that in writing because otherwise, why would the land owner agree to it instead of insisting all traces be gone?
Right it won't be a permanent build on the lot. I want to be able to move my tiny house if I need to in the future. Yeah I was thinking of using those wood posts with cinder blocks to secure the house by using screws shown in the video. I just hope it won't cost too much. I feel not safe just landing a house there without the foundation cause heavy wind might just blow it off im scared.

What part of the country?
Indianapolis area.. I also would like to use foundation to raise the house by a foot... so that water won't get into my house during heavy rain season.
Just buy a camper.
I was thinking about that. Lease a land and set a tent there to sleep and eat as a temporary solution until I get housing situation squared away.
 

Greenman

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OP, if you're a dude you can just build your own.

The fellow has no concept of what he's getting into. He keeps saying "tiny house", but then describes a structure without power, running water, or sewage disposal. That's a shed. He also says he's going to lease the land and the owner said he could put a tiny house on it, but it's not up to the owner. Local government will decide if the structure is allowed, and if he can live in a shed. Since he's not in Cambodia, the answer will end up being "NO!".
I feel sorry for the fellow and the situation he's in, but the guy is clueless squared. If he manages to pull this off, he'll freeze to death come next winter, die from dysentery this summer, or burn to death when he tries to heat his "house" with a wood stove he installed himself. He also doesn't listen to the advice he asks for. This is a young man hell bent on catastrophic failure, all we can do is give him advice that delays his untimely end and hopefully contains the coming disaster so that innocent bystanders aren't hurt.
 

cheez

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The tiny house will have insulation and finished walls with electrical outlets. I will have electrician to get the meter setup. This is if my house purchase and land lease go well. I'm trying to plan things out so all things will be ready by the time I move out of my apartment on July 20. My question is how much will it cost me to lay a basic little foundation.
 

jmagg

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Explain amount and the type of piers you will be using. A trip to the building dept will help you with lumber dimension,spans and depth.
 

NetWareHead

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The tiny house will have insulation and finished walls with electrical outlets. I will have electrician to get the meter setup. This is if my house purchase and land lease go well. I'm trying to plan things out so all things will be ready by the time I move out of my apartment on July 20. My question is how much will it cost me to lay a basic little foundation.

You might not be able to get the utility to install a meter to your tiny house. The way you describe it, it defines as a shed or outbuilding and the only way to get power in this circumstance is to run a line from the main building. In my jurisdiction, meter installs have to be permitted so there is no way to bypass the local authority. Furthermore, an electrician can install a meter socket but the utility does the final connection to the grid - pending an approved permit from the local authority.
 

cheez

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Snoopy - don't I still need to find a land for the shipping container home? And get approved by land owner? I don't think they would allow that in the housing division... Besides I don't have time and resource to turn it into a home. I would imagine ones already made homes would cost as much as tiny homes. And I don't like the home being so narrow... I need width at least 12 feet.
 

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Shipping container houses seem more practical than tiny houses. Plus they're like made out of really sturdy metal, so you don't need to worry about them blowing over during storms or rotting away, and it'd be easy to put on an addition since they can be pretty dang modular.

https://www.google.com/search?q=shi...LDaAhWkhOAKHe8nB9QQ_AUICigB&biw=1920&bih=1045

You need to be aware of what you are buying though as they may come with heavily pesticide laden wood floors or phosphate\chromate painted metal
 

Greenman

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Snoopy - don't I still need to find a land for the shipping container home? And get approved by land owner? I don't think they would allow that in the housing division... Besides I don't have time and resource to turn it into a home. I would imagine ones already made homes would cost as much as tiny homes. And I don't like the home being so narrow... I need width at least 12 feet.
YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!! I'll say this for the fourth time. The land owner doesn't decide what you can build on his property. If your within city limits, there will almost certainly be building codes and standards the city will impose. Before you buy anything, you have to know where you're going to put it, and make sure the municipality approves.
1. Find location.
2. Get approval for your structure.
3. Procure said structure.

You're worrying about how to get over the fourth hurdle when you don't know how high the first three are going to be.
 

zinfamous

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The tiny house will have insulation and finished walls with electrical outlets. I will have electrician to get the meter setup. This is if my house purchase and land lease go well. I'm trying to plan things out so all things will be ready by the time I move out of my apartment on July 20. My question is how much will it cost me to lay a basic little foundation.

the electrician alone can't run power to the land if the city doesn't already have a hookup. They will have to do the heavy-up, which means they will have to authorize and install the electricity to the site. Has this been done? It's got nothing to do with the landowner, and I bet that once this bridge is crosses, he's going to have you pay for all of this.
 

zinfamous

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YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!! I'll say this for the fourth time. The land owner doesn't decide what you can build on his property. If your within city limits, there will almost certainly be building codes and standards the city will impose. Before you buy anything, you have to know where you're going to put it, and make sure the municipality approves.
1. Find location.
2. Get approval for your structure.
3. Procure said structure.

You're worrying about how to get over the fourth hurdle when you don't know how high the first three are going to be.

It is at this point where, for the fourth time, we need to remind ourselves that OP is in this supposed situation because he supposedly thought that buying $12k audio cables was a reasonable idea.
 

Greenman

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It is at this point where, for the fourth time, we need to remind ourselves that OP is in this supposed situation because he supposedly thought that buying $12k audio cables was a reasonable idea.
I completely understand. But I feel compelled to at least try to slow his headlong rush into catastrophic failure. It's in my nature to make the attempt. I'm also the guy who tells the drunk on the third floor that he won't make the pool. I understand that I'm interfering with natural selection, and probably enabling the continued pollution of the gene pool, but God doesn't watch out for drunkards and fools as carefully as I was lead to believe, so I've taken on some of the duty myself.
 

zinfamous

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I completely understand. But I feel compelled to at least try to slow his headlong rush into catastrophic failure. It's in my nature to make the attempt. I'm also the guy who tells the drunk on the third floor that he won't make the pool. I understand that I'm interfering with natural selection, and probably enabling the continued pollution of the gene pool, but God doesn't watch out for drunkards and fools as carefully as I was lead to believe, so I've taken on some of the duty myself.

Yes but don't you see that you make life less amusing for the rest of us?
 

cheez

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Greenman, my job is unstable again. I don't know when I'm going to lose another job. At this rate I won't be even able to pay for my electric bill that's pastdue three months because my current rent is too high. I also owe around $400 on the tax return so I can't even pay that. I will have to file later this year...
I would like to set up a camper as you suggested but there is even more problem to that. How will I find a spot to park my car without getting stolen or towed away?? I did some checking on parking service in the city and they want a ton of money...almost more than my apartment rent. There is another layer of problem. I can ride my bicycle but can't even afford to sell my car because I owe money on the car. I will end up with more debt... I will have to be freaking rich to sell my damn car... I am in real deep mess...
 
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My oldest stepson has a lot of issues including mental illness he does not feel he needs to address, PTSD from a stint in the military. Alcoholism which he has beat, is an avid smoker of weed but the most debilitating is a Heroin addiction that he repeatedly beats and succumbs to.

He has, in the past, lived in a tent at a state park while using a bicycle for transportation. He's moved up in the world because he now lives in a POS van that he cannot lawfully drive (but does drive) because he has no drivers license, no insurance and who the license plates on the van belong to is something I don't really care to know. He works odd jobs for cash to support his drug and cigarette habits and gets picked up by the cops on a semi-regular basis because he's on the hook for over $50K in past due child support for his son that is now 23 years old. He recently got out of jail when the county determined that even though he owes all that child support they can't get blood out of a turnip. They charge inmates for their stays so he owes the county money for that now too as well as all his other times in jail.

He's got problems and you've got problems.

As you say now and as you've said before in your many threads, you're in a mess. The first step towards turning things around for you will be when you come to the realization that the help you need will not be gotten here. It doesn't matter how many different scenarios you try to come up with, how many roadblocks you envision and how much guidance or help you ask for here because the help you need is to correct what's going on between your ears.

You're not going to get that here. In the meantime, maybe you should start looking into tents.
 
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Greenman

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Greenman, my job is unstable again. I don't know when I'm going to lose another job. At this rate I won't be even able to pay for my electric bill that's pastdue three months because my current rent is too high. I also owe around $400 on the tax return so I can't even pay that. I will have to file later this year...
I would like to set up a camper as you suggested but there is even more problem to that. How will I find a spot to park my car without getting stolen or towed away?? I did some checking on parking service in the city and they want a ton of money...almost more than my apartment rent. There is another layer of problem. I can ride my bicycle but can't even afford to sell my car because I owe money on the car. I will end up with more debt... I will have to be freaking rich to sell my damn car... I am in real deep mess...
I understand exactly what you're going through because I've been there. But you're making decisions without the correct information. You're making assumptions that have no basis in reality. That's not going to end well.
If you're sold on the tiny house idea then pursue it logically. Find out where you can put it, find out how much to rent or lease the land, find out how much to get utility's to the location. Then you can buy the house.
I honestly don't see how you can make any of this work because it appears you don't have any assets. I also don't know the extant of your situation. You apparently have a job, and it appears that you have little to no concept of how to manage your money.
No one here can solve your problems for you, this is something you're going to have to do yourself.
 
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cheez

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My oldest stepson has a lot of issues including mental illness he does not feel he needs to address, PTSD from a stint in the military. Alcoholism which he has beat, is an avid smoker of weed but the most debilitating is a Heroin addiction that he repeatedly beats and succumbs to.

He has, in the past, lived in a tent at a state park while using a bicycle for transportation. He's moved up in the world because he now lives in a POS van that he cannot lawfully drive (but does drive) because he has no drivers license, no insurance and who the license plates on the van belong to is something I don't really care to know. He works odd jobs for cash to support his drug and cigarette habits and gets picked up by the cops on a semi-regular basis because he's on the hook for over $50K in past due child support for his son that is now 23 years old. He recently got out of jail when the county determined that even though he owes all that child support they can't get blood out of a turnip. They charge inmates for their stays so he owes the county money for that now too as well as all his other times in jail.

He's got problems and you've got problems.

As you say now and as you've said before in your many threads, you're in a mess. The first step towards turning things around for you will be when you come to the realization that the help you need will not be gotten here. It doesn't matter how many different scenarios you try to come up with, how many roadblocks you envision and how much guidance or help you ask for here because the help you need is to correct what's going on between your ears.

You're not going to get that here. In the meantime, maybe you should start looking into tents.
Nice report I feel for your step son we should have mercy on him and help him. There are many (of course not all) out there on the street that are just like him but Jesus says have mercy on them and help them. He doesn't call us to help those that don't need help. I don't do any drugs though. I don't even take any kind of medication and I don't even drink alcohol. My biggest suffer is the devil attacking me without giving me a vacation or break which is why I can't keep my job. Going back to my parents to get support is out of question. I am not going to deal with them even if my life is at stake.
 
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