How much will Obamacare cost you? Calculator included in thread

compuwiz1

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Here is how you can calculate your rate and/or tax credit. Just go to the link and put in your information. It doesn't ask personal questions. Try it out! What do you think?

http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/



The phone number to sign up is 1-800-FUCK-YO!. For many of us, no wonder!
 
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OutHouse

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Unsubsidized annual health insurance premium in 2014:$11,514

Maximum % of income you have to pay for the non-tobacco premium, if eligible for a subsidy:

9% Amount you pay for the premium:$7,024 per year
(which equals 9% of your household income and covers 61% of the overall premium)

You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to:$4,490
(which covers 39% of the overall premium)
 

compuwiz1

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I'm 54 years old & smoke. I currently pay only $103 per month for medical, dental and vision. The rest is paid by my employer. Our insurance meets all the requirements at this time, so I don't have to sign up for Obamacare.....yet, knock on wood.
 
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I'm covered through work and the wife is on my policy (which she gets a cash stipend from her own job to cover). So apparently Obamacare costs me zero.
 

nanette1985

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Checking my 23-yr old son, nope. He doesn't make enough for Obamacare, and here in NJ Medicaid isn't accepting new applicants (this I already know, it's not in your link).
 

bozack

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its the smaller things that add up...

Doctors office told us insurance is mandating that they charge more co pays for services....company no longer offers a partial gym membership reimbursement as apparently under obamacare/ACA they can't cap...rates are going up for employees.

Still waiting to see what else comes out of it

And using that calculator, 9k/year for family of 3 with zero subsidy and that is only for silver
 
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IronWing

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According to the calculator the premium for my employer's cheapest offering is 36% more than the premium for the Silver level with no subsidy. Without knowing what is covered the estimate is kind of meaningless.
 

WackyDan

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"Your out-of-pocket maximum for a Silver plan (not including the premium) can be no more than $12,700."

So Obamacare can still put people into medical bill induced bankruptcy.
 

NoStateofMind

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"Your out-of-pocket maximum for a Silver plan (not including the premium) can be no more than $12,700."

So Obamacare can still put people into medical bill induced bankruptcy.

Please.....don't point out hypocrisy it stirs up all kinds of shit.
 

IronWing

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So I signed in under a pseudonym and checked prices and coverage. The premium for the gold plan for my area is about 25% less than my employer's cheapest plan (a HDHP). I work for a large employer. All the plans appear to be structured as high deductible plans with no coverage until the deductibles are met, except for mandated preventive care. The Out of Pocket max appears to be the same for all ACA plans. My current plan has an OOP cap of $8000 vs $12700 for the ACA plans. For 25% less than what I'm paying now I would get a deductible of $1150 instead of the current $1500 ($3000 - $1500 employer contribution to HSA). For my situation with my familiy's expected health needs the gold plan is about the same value as my current plan, that is, I'm currently paying more for better coverage. So for my family, the ACA plans are fairly comparable in cost/benefit. I wouldn't switch as my employer is picking up 75% of the premium cost for my plan.
 

IronWing

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One thing for sure; the calculator is not partisan politics. The numbers are in.
The calculator is only a start to looking at the numbers. You have to look at what is covered, copays, deductibles and know what your current premiums are (employee+employer, if applicable) to make any sense of the premiums.
 

compuwiz1

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The calculator is only a start to looking at the numbers. You have to look at what is covered, copays, deductibles and know what your current premiums are (employee+employer, if applicable) to make any sense of the premiums.

Agreed. I think it's important for people with employer subsidized health insurance to find out how much that subsidy is. Can't just look at your cost alone. For example, my insurance at work costs me $103 per month. I don't know how much the employer pays in.
 

thraashman

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I have trouble believing these are real numbers for many of you. I just put in my info and got "Amount you pay for the premium: $2,818 per year. Your out-of-pocket maximum for a Silver plan (not including the premium) can be no more than $6,350." Now this is if I say employer coverage is not available (it is but it wouldn't give me numbers if I said it was available). And last I checked I'm right around the top 20% of earners.
 

IGBT

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keep in mind these are only the opening first year costs for your obama care. Following years the numbers / fines / penalties / rates all go up. Elections have consequences.
 

waggy

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$9332 a year.

I Find this hard to believe t hat it would be twice what i pay now for a silver plan.


I have tried to loginto the real site to see what is offered but can't get it
 

compuwiz1

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I have trouble believing these are real numbers for many of you. I just put in my info and got "Amount you pay for the premium: $2,818 per year. Your out-of-pocket maximum for a Silver plan (not including the premium) can be no more than $6,350." Now this is if I say employer coverage is not available (it is but it wouldn't give me numbers if I said it was available). And last I checked I'm right around the top 20% of earners.

Well, here is mine for myself at 54 yo and wife at 57. I used 77,000 for annual income, which is light, but enough to get an idea.

Results

Because your income is more than 4 times the poverty level, you would not qualify for subsidized exchange coverage. The information below is about unsubsidized exchange coverage.

Household income in 2014:
496% of poverty level
Unsubsidized annual health insurance premium in 2014:
$11,591
In most states, insurers can charge a tobacco surcharge of up to 50% of your total premium before the tax credit. The tax credit cannot be applied to the tobacco surcharge.
Maximum % of income you have to pay for the non-tobacco premium, if eligible for a subsidy:
None
(before accounting for a tobacco surcharge, if applicable)
Amount you pay for the premium:
$11,591 per year
(which equals 15.05% of your household income and covers 100% of the overall premium)
You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to:
$0
(which covers 0% of the overall premium)

Bronze Plan

The premium amounts above are based on a Silver plan. You could purchase other levels of coverage, such as a Gold plan (which would be more comprehensive) or a Bronze plan (which would be less comprehensive).

For example, you could enroll in a Bronze plan for about $9,607 per year (which is 12.48% of your household income). For most people, the Bronze plan represents the minimum level of coverage required under health reform. Although you would pay less in premiums by enrolling in a Bronze plan, you will face higher out-of-pocket costs than if you enrolled in a Silver plan.
Out of Pocket Costs

Your out-of-pocket maximum for a Silver plan (not including the premium) can be no more than $12,700. Whether you reach this maximum level will depend on the amount of health care services you use. Currently, about one in four people use no health care services in any given year.

A Silver plan has an actuarial value of 70%. This means that for all enrollees in a typical population, the plan will pay for 70% of expenses in total for covered benefits, with enrollees responsible for the rest. If you choose to enroll in a Bronze plan, the actuarial value will be 60%, meaning your out-of-pocket costs when you use services will likely be higher. Regardless of which level of coverage you choose, deductibles and copayments will vary from plan to plan, and out-of-pocket costs will depend on your health care expenses. Preventive services will be covered with no cost sharing required.
Other Coverage Options

Because Bronze level coverage would cost more than 8% of your household income, you may instead opt to purchase catastrophic coverage. With a catastrophic plan, you would pay out-of-pocket for most health services until you reach the annual limit on cost sharing ($12,700 in 2014). However, preventive services are covered with no cost sharing required.
 

compuwiz1

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Also, I live in Washington state. I just redid it like if I lived in California and the premium went up to $14,446 per year.
 

monovillage

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Oh my.

There are still some variables, but it looks like my wife and I get to screw the taxpayers out of $7,000+ ! Thanks hard working folks for giving us the free money. Maybe we'll take a few nice vacations on your dime.
 

IronWing

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I have trouble believing these are real numbers for many of you. I just put in my info and got "Amount you pay for the premium: $2,818 per year. Your out-of-pocket maximum for a Silver plan (not including the premium) can be no more than $6,350." Now this is if I say employer coverage is not available (it is but it wouldn't give me numbers if I said it was available). And last I checked I'm right around the top 20% of earners.

I was quoting for two person household. Age matters.
 

ivwshane

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After reading this thread I have to ask myself; Do people realize just what the ACA is?

One of the things it does is to allow the consumer to compare plans from different providers.
It's not a magic bullet and it certainly isn't going to be cheaper for most people whose employers pay for their health insurance.
 

ivwshane

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Oh my.

There are still some variables, but it looks like my wife and I get to screw the taxpayers out of $7,000+ ! Thanks hard working folks for giving us the free money. Maybe we'll take a few nice vacations on your dime.

You are already a burden on society so nothing new here.
 

compuwiz1

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Oh my.

There are still some variables, but it looks like my wife and I get to screw the taxpayers out of $7,000+ ! Thanks hard working folks for giving us the free money. Maybe we'll take a few nice vacations on your dime.

Welfare much?
 
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